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Your Own Design / Re: 1/4 scale Porsche 917 180 degree V12 Build
« Last post by Fj45 on Today at 11:23:18 PM »
 Hi Dave,
 Just a thought, could you bore under size for the cylinders and vacuum chips out there?
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Your Own Design / Re: Chris's Slew-Crowd Engines
« Last post by cnr6400 on Today at 11:03:02 PM »
 :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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Your Own Design / Re: 1/4 scale Porsche 917 180 degree V12 Build
« Last post by steamer on Today at 10:15:37 PM »
Well   3 steps forward and 2 back....

I got the block set up on the lathe and started to bore it.    But I ran into a problem......ME!

I left .040" material when I roughed out the block....but captain dumb dumb didn't think that would be 0.080 on diameter!    I was OK on the main bore...the boring bar JUST fit, but I can't get the 1/2" diameter boring bars in the roughed out 15mm bores at all!.....hmmmm

OK   so I'll start by opening the crankshaft bore, 32mm finished diameter out to about 30mm...    I found the next problem!
I can't get chips out of the block very well  Like NOT at ALL!    I end up recutting chips and it's a problem.   So my boring bar is basically too big in diameter.
So I made a 0.020 pass on the bore, and split the case  and clean out the case, reassemble the case and make another cut

OK   so the intent with all of this was to bore all the bores in one set up so that they're parallel and consistent.
Breaking the case open is not serving that very well, as I can't evacuate the chips.   I have 0.040 worth of material to come out of the 32m  crankshaft bore, so I'll leave that for now

but what's worse is I can't get into the bores of the 15mm bores at all until I open them up past 1/2" diameter.   They need to be opened up.   
OK  So I put a 1/2" long shank end mill into the lathe and bored these holes as deep as I could.  I then put a long shank 1/2 inch drill in the lathe and bored through.

I know this does not do well for locational accuracy, but the material has to come out.

So now Im at this state... I"m sitting Wondering what I should do.    So much for game plans right?

OK   

Plan 1
I think I need to make up a boring bar that is slightly smaller in diameter and 9" long.    with this I'll "worry" out the 15mm bores to say 14mm and then put my between centers bar in and take out the remainder.

Plan 2
pick up a 14mm diameter long shank end mill and long shank drill and open the bores to 14 mm  and finish with the between centers boring bar to 15mm.     I like this solution the best, as it's simple, and apparently effective.   I don't like long drills as then tend to wonder around though.

either way, I don't feel confident that I cant hold super tight tolerances with the bar alone as I can't get the chips out.   That said, I think I'll need to make up some laps to finish the bores to the tolerance I want. 

I'm going to buy some tooling and then mentally chew on this overnight, and see how it looks in the morning.

I have the mains at about 30mm and the 15mm at about 13mm currently. 

Going in the right direction, just trying not to screw it up.

Dave 
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Your Own Design / Re: The "ORIENTAL"
« Last post by maury on Today at 10:02:05 PM »
I've been prepping all the parts for the Oriental patterns. The 3D models get extra material for machining,
then that are scaled 1.015x. Parts that need to be split are then divided. Next draft is added, and the fillets
are added. Sometimes a also add the gating to the pattern for convenience for making the pattern board.

At this point, I have all the parts for castings are prepped and printed, except for the base, crank case,
and flywheel. They are too big for my printer or CNC machine, so I'm going to have to buy a larger printer.
Anybody have any experience with the QIDI Plus 4 3D printer?

I am starting to mount these on boards for the big pour day. So far I have the head and valve parts.
These parts are made in both a left hand and right hand version.
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Your Own Design / Re: Chris's Slew-Crowd Engines
« Last post by crueby on Today at 09:13:33 PM »
For Bent - a jpeg markup is attached of the crowd engine steam supply swivel joint on an Erie B steam shovel just FYI. These shovels were much smaller than the Marion one Chris gave details on, just FYI, but the fittings are similar in function. The swivel fitting is formed from two elbow fittings with a packing joint to seal the steam flow, and a mechanical groove and static pin to keep the halves together. The Erie fitting also has a through-bolt to keep the halves together under pressure. Hope this info is of interest.
Ah - yes! I forgot that the revolving shovels still needed a swivel so the boom could be tilted.   :ThumbsUp:   Usually on the railroad shovels with a turntable, the boom was at a fixed angle where the revolving shovels usually had them adjustable for angle.
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Your Own Design / Re: Chris's Slew-Crowd Engines
« Last post by cnr6400 on Today at 08:49:39 PM »
For Bent - a jpeg markup is attached of the crowd engine steam supply swivel joint on an Erie B steam shovel just FYI. These shovels were much smaller than the Marion one Chris gave details on, just FYI, but the fittings are similar in function. The swivel fitting is formed from two elbow fittings with a packing joint to seal the steam flow, and a mechanical groove and static pin to keep the halves together. The Erie fitting also has a through-bolt to keep the halves together under pressure. Hope this info is of interest.
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Yup, that's right Jason. I should include photos just to show what I'm talking about -- here's the headstock end of my lathe with the leadscrew extension and stepper location under the headstock.

And the second photo is my fake "gearbox: housing with the switches, wiring and the tiny computer that does it all -- an arduino nano type. You can see a pencil in the photo for size comparison. The computer is dwarfed by the wiring to it, and the "gearbox is cavernous.

I'll neaten this stuff up and secure it before installing. It's easier to connect a USB cable to it while it's loose -- you can just see the mini USB connector at the bottom of the board for sending it programs. This board cost I think $4 -- I think I got 3 for $12 ? -- can't remember.
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You can always make them a bit bigger by allowing 1mm to equal 1/16" or if you like very small stuff let 1mm = 1/32". Both of which are quite simple conversions or there is always the direct mathmatical one and substituting stock imperial sizes for nearest metric.
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Additive Machining / Re: Where did the thread go?
« Last post by Jasonb on Today at 08:02:37 PM »
If you did have a spare moment Jo it would be nice if you could wave your majic wand on the following. Although Pat says he has no intenion of using 3DMP these may be of use to others.

The post where it was asked if Brass and bronze cold be printed

My reply that generally not but wax then investmet is how they do it

My later post about costs where I attached the two images of the pump.

And possibly the couple about pipe fittings being printed.

Thanks.
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Additive Machining / Re: Where did the thread go?
« Last post by CI on Today at 07:52:58 PM »
I don't have a dog in this hunt, I was just researching 3D metal printing, and was unable to find any recent similar threads when searching, else I would have started at the end of the other thread.
Seems like a fascinating method for sure, but not something I intend on using.
I do like to keep up with the technology and such.
Merge away, or merge Jason's stuff, whatever; no complaints from me.

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