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« Last post by Thor on Today at 10:24:06 AM » Welcome to the forum. You are not the only one that is intersted in steam engines.
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Introduce Yourself / Re: New Member« Last post by Thor on Today at 10:24:06 AM » Welcome to the forum. You are not the only one that is intersted in steam engines.
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Chatterbox / Re: Hand written.« Last post by paul gough on Today at 09:56:40 AM »Dave, that is helpful information regarding fountain pen friendly waterproof inks. Thank you. Regards, Paul Gough.
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Introduce Yourself / New Member« Last post by sWanee4597 on Today at 09:07:41 AM »I'm a recently "semi" retired machinist/toolmaker. 50+years making chips of perfectly good metal, just to shovel them up at the end of the day and get paid for it. Bought a PM 1340GT and a PM 833T and lots of fixins. It's been 2 years and the list of projects keeps getting longer. Building a model steam engine is getting closer to the top. Thanks for having me.
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Chatterbox / Re: Hand written.« Last post by Chipswitheverything on Today at 08:56:53 AM »Something that has probably helped to keep an interest in using and buying fountain pens in modern times, is the considerable use made of them, along with fountain pen friendly waterproof ink, for pen sketching. Particularly the variety known as "urban sketching" , modern subjects drawn on the spot from , mostly, city life and its built surroundings.
Usually with some washing in of watercolour, hence the need for the waterproof ink. Styles vary a lot, but worldwide there are innumerable groups who meet up regularly to have sessions of doing this sort of artwork. And many individual exponents as well, of course. I have done some pictures of this sort, and know others that are keen and productive, and there's a lot of interest in finding good combinations of available pens and the waterproof inks. I have had good results from the Lamy Safari pens mentioned, and a make called TWISBE, affordable fountain pens with modern styling. The inks I use are by De Atramis, and Rohrer and Klingner "Sketch Ink" . They dry waterproof in seconds, but don't harm the pen even if left long term in the reservoirs. ( Don't ever try traditional Indian Ink in a fountain pen!, it will clog and wreck it... ) Dave 5
Chatterbox / Re: Hand written.« Last post by paul gough on Today at 08:50:00 AM »I accept that a professional needing to derive an income would need to subscribe to all your views and I have no need to argue otherwise. Computers can be a means of producing marvellous things evidenced by the videos on you tube at “1825steam”. However beyond making money and demands for speed and efficiency, manual methods can be very satisfying pursuits in themselves. I am sure that an artisanal blacksmith, potter, calligrapher, woodworker, sculptor and a myriad of other manual oriented craftspeople both professional and amateur are adherents of older less efficient methods. In some practices hand made is much more highly valued and not just monetarily. A hand hewn mechanism can have tremendous attraction and many people aspire to recreating some beautiful mechanisms such as those that appear in the “Scientific Instrument Society” bulletin. Indeed that master craftsman Chris Budiselic or “clickspring” as he is mostly known by, is one such person, also a mechanical engineer and an educator so cognisant of industry requirements. This does not stop him pursuing manual methods in his hobby. To end, the context of my questions and any conclusions drawn from my comments are only applicable to those who enjoy old ways and would like to pursue them. Regards, Paul Gough.
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Chatterbox / Re: Hand written.« Last post by Jo on Today at 08:44:21 AM »I suspect most of us consider making models a hobby or pastime, something for pleasure rather than "work" to get done
![]() Writing with a quality fountain pen (or any quality tool for that matter) can only enhance the pleasure in what ever you are doing. I can't say I feel the same about using cheap tat pens that scrape over the paper surface. Jo P.S. Apologies to all other retirees I know I was bad I used the "W" word ![]() 7
Specific Engine Help / Re: I scored a vintage machined Stuart Sirius kit« Last post by Chipswitheverything on Today at 08:28:06 AM »This looks neatly and nicely produced. Quite a nice bonus not to be tackling that crankshaft from scratch, unless one was specifically wanting the challenge!
Is what appears to be a pre-cut and drilled lagging sheet made of the fabled "Russian Iron" that Stuart Turner used to supply , instead of just anodised aluminium? Dave 8
Engine Ancillaries / Re: Fuel Injection Systems Part 2« Last post by Roger B on Today at 08:25:11 AM »The next step was to harden and lap the pump element. I ran the 1.95mm reamer through by hand to remove any burrs caused by drilling the inlet port, then heated the pump element up to a light orange, kept it there for about a minute and dropped it into a water bath. As expected, the 1.95mm pin gauge would no longer go in so I started lapping with 5 micron diamond paste and an Acro Needle Lap.
https://youtube.com/shorts/Gice8kHvOQI?feature=share When the 1.95mm pin gauge would go through I changed to 1 micron paste and continued until the 1.97mm pin gauge would just go through. I already had a 1.97mm helix, (I usually make them in pairs one from each end of a pin gauge. The procedure is in post 12 of this thread.) which fitted nicely into the bore 9
Chatterbox / Re: Hand written.« Last post by Jasonb on Today at 07:53:45 AM »I seem to remember using a Parker towards the end of primary school so when I was 10 or 11. so mid 70s. Biro and Berol ball pens are what I remember from secondary school.
No being very good at English which I always struggled with I tended to keep writing to the minimum needed so have never been much of a letter writer. The advent of the computer has changed things for people like me that may struggle. It is relatively easy to check spelling and also grammar these days rather than having to cross out or use correction fluid. So I'm far happier bashing away on a keyboard and will go into far more detail than I would have if trying to put pen to paper. Cost does come into it these days as a stamp is not cheap and if the conversation is going to go back and forth a few times can be quite dragged out compared with what can be done in a couple of hours by the internet with the bonus that you can include images etc. As for drawing I was quite capable with pen or pencil on paper but CAD has made things quicker and easier as I can make alterations and check assemblies with ease. Also if work related it is far easier for my clients who may not be able to follow traditional plans and elevations to have a rendered image that they can move about on their screen and get a better understanding of what I propose to make for them. I can also do CAD work for people around the world without having to get drawings printed and posted, any corrections or alterations can be done almost instantly rather than wait for a reply then send out again. As for CNC there is thought that goes into that, from the initial design stage so that the part can be made, to learning CAM and then thinking how to use it. As for slide rules for general calculations I prefer to get on with making things so use the best method for the job in hand and would certainly not earn such a good living if using more time consuming methods for work related items. Interestingly I posted my latest build on ME forum as well as here as I usually do but asked there for people to guess how long it took me to build. All I can say is most other people seem to work less efficiently than me. 10
Engine Ancillaries / Re: Porsche 12 Cylinder Fuel Injection« Last post by Roger B on Today at 07:34:14 AM »Lots of interesting thoughts and numbers
Here a few more observations: Fuel Volumes When I started designing my first diesel I made some basic calculation on the required quantity of fuel. Note these calculations are for a hydrocarbon fuel, the volumes for alcohol are significantly more. The density of air is around 1.2kg/m3 so 20 cc of air is around 0.024g. Taking a fuel air ratio of 14-1 this would require 0.0017g of diesel fuel. The density of diesel fuel is around 0.8kg /dm3 so at full output around 2mm3 of fuel would be required. This could be achieved with a plunger of 2mm diameter and a stroke of 1.5mm (plus a bit to allow for leakage). Assuming a 4 stroke engine running at 4 000rpm there will be 2 000 pump strokes per minute so 4 ml of fuel per minute. Mike’s figures for methanol gave 14.3 ml per minute at 5 000rpm at 4.85 -1 air to fuel ratio. This would be 11.44 ml per minute at 4 000rpm and 3.96 ml per minute for an air fuel ratio of 14 – 1. Those numbers are consistent ![]() I also carried out some output tests with one of my helix controlled pumps with an injector fitted (excel table attached). The effect of leakage is clearly visible. The injection pressure was around 100 bar. At 2 900 rpm (pump and crankshaft rpm are the same as it is a 2 stroke) it delivered 1.5 ml in 15 seconds. This would be 6 ml per minute at 2 900 rpm and 4.14 ml per minute at 2 000rpm. This is again consistent with the numbers above. Nozzles Qualitative tests with an open 0.2mm orifice suggest that it is too large for these fuel volumes. There is, however, another factor here which is the injection period. A continuous flow system like Shillings will feed the fuel over the full 720° for a 4 stroke. A timed system like the Lucas PI or the Bosch jerk pump system will probably inject during the inlet period say 180 crankshaft degrees. This will give an actual flow rate of 4 times the mean flow rate. In the extreme a diesel injecting over a period of 18° will require 20 times the mean flow rate. I need to study Mike’s numbers for the nozzles more, they certainly suggest that 0.2mm is too large, even with timed/pulsed injection. |