thanks for the tip it would save a lot of machining steel down the those springy things .
I have tried that method in the past but it does not seem to suit my mind set , may be I am a stick in the mud but I have used the method that suits me for about 40 years with various lathes.
the reason for the question is that I need to turn some bits for a grinder spindle to the best that I can do so as John ( Bogs ) always says clean down lubricate and adjust your mill Lathe before you start some important work
Not my luck day just had a delivery of the small angular bearing I ordered 3 as they were not expensive ( one for test fitting ) guess what look at the first package ( still heat sealed in its pouch ) , that bearing looks funny , there is a ball missing from one race , they are replacing it no problems at all
just need to order up lots of steel EN1a and EN8 and get making chips , the loco is on hold as I need to make up some special cutter hence the grinder project
Stuart
thanks again for the info