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Nicely priced 3D Printer
« on: June 06, 2016, 05:55:53 AM »
For those of you who might be considering a 3D printer, I just ordered one of these:

http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=15365

I have no affiliation with these folks, but the printer is only $200 + $13 shipping (for my zip code), and it has some pretty nice features for such a low price.  It's all metal construction, factory assembled and calibrated, and it has a heated bed so will print ABS and other filaments requiring the heated bed.  The build volume is 4.7" x 4.7" x 4.7", which is somewhat larger than other 3D printers in the same price range.  It also has a fairly small foot print and looks rather tidy compared to many of the cheaper 3D printers. 

Just my 2 cents worth.  Will let you all know how well it works once it gets here.

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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2016, 11:53:58 AM »
The specs sure look nice Chuck and the price is unbelievable!!  You must have gotten the last on as the website is showing "sold out" as of this morning. Will be looking forward to your review of it.

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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2016, 08:24:23 PM »
I was just there for a look and it appears that they restocked.  :shrug:


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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2016, 08:27:27 PM »
Yeah, I got a little concerned when I saw they were out of stock.  But I checked UPS this morning and the shipment is in transit with a scheduled delivery date of Wed, Jun 8.  I also show that they are back in stock at this point.  I think they just needed to get their web site updated... probably nobody home over the weekend!

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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2016, 04:53:54 AM »
It seems good value for a mini printer but I find the build area too small but that's just me. At the prices shown for them it won't be too hard to go the bigger size if you out grow it. Enjoy it and best of all it allows a variety of filament types to play with. PLA is a good option for casting aluminium. Chuck if you can do 3D cad  the possibilities are endless especially if making a engine as you could print and prove the fit  :Lol:
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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2016, 01:52:25 AM »
So, it's taken me a while to get this thing dialed in.  So far I'm using PLA and I've had to play with the extruder temperature and filament feed rate.  Unfortunately, the customer support folks weren't much help.  But I finally got the feed rate figured out at 110 steps per millimeter.  Looks like the extruder stepper is microstepping at 1/16th steps giving me 3200 steps per revolution.  I'm also running the hot end at 230 C which is about 20 degrees C hotter than recommended.  But it makes the filament stick to the bed better and improves the inter-layer adhesion. 

I'm getting some good prints with it now and I feel like it's very much worth the price I paid for it.  By the way, I'm building a much larger printer, 8" x 8" x 10" build envelope and I should have that one up and running in a month or so.  Here's an earlier picture of the one I'm building...



And a picture taken today showing the latest progress...



The dimensions on the frame are 14" x 14" x 20 tall.  Mechanically it's pretty much all done.  Just need to connect up the electronics and wiring...

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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2016, 02:38:24 AM »
Thanks for the update. That price is unbelievable. Once you get things dialed in, would love to see a printed part from it.

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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2016, 02:56:41 AM »
Thanks for the update. That price is unbelievable. Once you get things dialed in, would love to see a printed part from it.

Bill

Bill............. it looks like he's already printed a pop can!  :lolb:

I didn't have the slightest idea how one worked or what it did until a guy here in the airpark set one up.  Pretty amazing!

Chuck I'm interested to see how you use yours.

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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2016, 03:52:41 AM »
Chuck love the bigger printer. I have a Da Vinci slightly hacked to use a bigger variety of ABS filament rather than their dodgy stuff. My kit printer with heated bed is used for PLA mainly and I found the best setting for filament is 210C and  bed either at room temps or 65C when heated and both stick well though I use the cheapest hair spray as a glue. I have found it to be a good glue whether I use PLA or ABS and the bed is hot or cold. Print area on the kit printer is 200mm x 200mm x 180mm.
I'm good luck with your larger printer and hope its in action soon
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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2016, 09:21:21 PM »
A further update on this printer.  It's getting a lot of attention on the internet and seems to be a solid printer.  There are, however, some downsides.

1.  Customer support is very weak to non existent.  I was unable to find out the default settings for the filament extrude rate.  I was also unable to get copies of the files on the SD card that comes with the printer.  I, unfortunately, inadvertently deleted some of them.

2.  The print bed is heated, but simply won't go any higher than about 85 degrees centigrade.  This is not hot enough to print ABS filament.  Fortunately, the ABS seems to stick OK to smaller prints and there may be a work around by printing a skirt around your model.

3.  The firmware in the printer seems to be proprietary, or at least there is no information about what it is or how to update it.  I'm hoping the apparent popularity of this printer will motivate some one to investigate and/or reverse engineer it so the firmware can be modified and/or updated.  It would be nice to be able to change default values but so far I've found no way to do that.

On the plus side, the controller board is powered by a 32 bit ARM processor so it is way faster than the more popular Arduino based boards.  Again, I'm hoping an open source version of the firmware becomes available. 
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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2016, 03:39:38 AM »
Chuck try soliforum forums as I think there are some users there that may help you with the software and firmware issues. Once you have it up and running here's a working jet engine for you to print. Amazing how the PLA doesn't melt.
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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2016, 12:03:53 PM »
Pete, did you mean to add a file or link??

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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2016, 04:05:17 AM »
Bugga yes I did but obviously forgot it. I'll add it now


and for another look at possibilities for maybe using it for making a casting? There are some clever people out there.


http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1643878

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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2016, 04:18:26 AM »
That is some jet! Some printed parts were used as patterns to cast from. Clever stuff!

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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2016, 08:12:46 PM »
Looks like ST is getting into the printer market against Arduino.
For you electronics/hardware people...this is a board that drives 'all' 3d printers on the market including Deltas. (Later in the document it states 'most' 3d printers.
Uses a Cortex M4 (32 bit) processor.
I didn't read through it yet but you might be interested.
Modifying or building code might be interesting. Commercial compilers can be in the thousands of dollars. But there is an open source tool chain available using Eclipse, GNU, and a debugger. I've played with the open source stuff and got it working on a project here at work (not related to printers).

$118.

link to pdf that talks about it...
http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/user_manual/group0/66/e3/47/bb/0e/6c/45/9f/DM00291039/files/DM00291039.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.DM00291039.pdf

Link to ST...
http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/evaluation-tools/solution-evaluation-tools/computer-and-peripherals-solution-eval-boards/steval-3dp001v1.html
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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2016, 08:41:46 PM »
I have been following this thread and I am very curious. I note the pitfalls that you found and understand them. Do you think, for a rank amature whose last bit of computer manipulation was D.O.S. and enough c++ to make a square move across the screen, could figure out how to use and play with one of these printers?

Is it good enough to teach me, or should I say, let me learn the basics of 3d printing without buying a $1000.00 machine?

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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2016, 10:17:49 PM »
Tom,
The learning curve won't be the printer, but rather learning whatever CAD package you favor. The printers these days are pretty user friendly IMHO.

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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2016, 10:43:21 PM »
Thanks Bill, that is kinda what I figured and since I am hardly able to make a drafting program do a straight line I guess a 3d printer isn't on my horizon.

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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2016, 11:02:23 PM »
You could always print from other's files, and I suspect many are available on the internet.

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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2016, 11:22:20 PM »
Bill, I forgot about that part of it ... like the Toyota engine that has been used as an example. Who knows, It could even inspire me to learn cad finally. I will ponder it over some amber liquid of the Scottish nature.

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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2016, 11:31:26 PM »
There you go Tom  :ThumbsUp: And the 3d technology keeps in getting cheaper and more capable day by day.

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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2016, 11:48:56 PM »
Tom
I have been messing with 3d printers for a couple years now.
There is a fair amount to learn but IMHO that is the fun .
Downloading a file from thingiverse is fine but to really use one as a tool a basic free 3d design program is a must.
I teach #D printing and design at the local maker space so can teach you enough to be dangerous LOL.  The cool thing about additive manufacturing is if the setup or programming is not right you waste a little plastic and have a small mess to clean up.
You can buy a decent usable printer to get started with for about $ 400 plastic to play with is about $ 20 a roll and serious make something plastic is more like $50 a roll.
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« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2016, 01:28:39 AM »
And chuck what are you building ? I have done 1 kit build.
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« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2016, 07:50:28 PM »
My limited experience of 3D printing is that it becomes very absorbing very quickly. I have found that my eBay kit machine 'Aurora i3' is quite capable of producing the same quality of print as our 'maker space' Luz-bot Taz 4. It just takes longer, both machines are very heavily effected by the ambient conditions both temperature and draft. A great deal of detrimental effect can be over come by putting the machine in a simple enclosure (cardboard box with cling film window). My intention is to print patterns to build a model of a stationary engine that I own a 'Powell' 6 hp open crank engine weighing in at seventeen hundred weight. Even in quarter size it would have 9" flywheels.
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« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2016, 11:08:42 PM »
Mainly what I want to do is learn. It is important that I keep the brain cells working ... use it or lose it, I think the phrase goes.

Once the sailboat season is over, I will get more serious about the printing.

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« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2016, 06:09:38 AM »
Tom I suggest you go for it as it is a fun hobby. Learning cad is on my list but at the moment can find most of what I print on thingiverse and others. I built a kit printer from ebay and it cost $Au309 so nicely priced and very easy to get going. I'm sure you would enjoy it and the fun of learning cad. Who knows were you will end up  :ThumbsUp:
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« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2016, 10:16:17 AM »
Thanks Pete ... I have pretty much decided it is a go.

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« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2016, 01:26:43 PM »
I purchased one of the Monoprice printers with the idea of learning something without investing a fortune. I have only had it a few days but so far it has been interesting and I have made the usual dumb rookie mistakes. I have been using Visual CADD for the last 20 years but it is a 2D program so I had to try something else. I have been playing around with Sketchup and I am not sure if it is the best or the easiest. It is at least free for limited use and produces a STL file which can be loaded into Cura to generate gcode. One of my first mistakes was to export the Sketchup file using the wrong units. I drew the part in inches and exported it in mm so when I tried to print the part it was 25.4 x actual size.

Some of my problems have been using the micro SD card. I have a SD slot on my computer but it requires an adapter for the micro card and the one I had did not work so I got another one. Then I purchased a 32 GB micro SD card only to discover that the printer would not read anything over 4 GB. This is not mentioned in the manual. Using a micro SD card seems kind of a poor way to transfer files from the computer to the printer. I was hoping for something like a flash drive.

Lots to learn yet but hopefully a fun trip.

Any thoughts from anyone on CAD programs. This is a hobby so free or cheap is good. Easy to learn is also good. I am not anticipating building rocket ships but simple parts for my model engines is good.

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« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2016, 06:17:21 PM »
Sorry I haven't dropped in here in a few days.  I've printed a couple of items on the Monoprice mini, but have been mostly focused on the 3D printer I'm building from scratch.  I had it working with an Arduino Mega/Ramps board, but took it apart to solder a header on for connecting a fan.  I put it back together and now it won't work.  Two new Ramps boards and 1 new Arduino Mega and it's still not working.  The steppers won't move and the Arduino repeatedly reboots.  I'm guessing there is a short somewhere, but it's hard to figure out where.

I've now pretty much decided to abandon the Ramps setup and go with a newer, integrated technology.  I'm trying to choose between a Smoothie Board and an Azteeg X5 Mini.  The Smoothie Board has a 120mh Cortex-M3 processor and the Azteeg X5 has a 120mh Arm processor.  The Smoothie Board has been around longer but the stepper drivers are soldered in place would would be difficult to replace.  The Azteeg X5 does have plug in stepper drivers but the board hasn't been around as long and doesn't have as big a following.  Decisions, decisions...   Both boards use the same, Smoothie 3D printer firmware.   The Smoothie firmware uses plain text configuration files so there is no need to recompile it for configuration changes.

Back to the Monoprice mini... I'm still troubled by the anemic heater on the build plate.  The resistance of the build plate is 3.6 ohms, so the maximum heating power at 12v is 40 watts.  I could use a power supply with higher voltage, say 15v, and boost the power to 62.5 watts, but I'm not willing to risk burning up the controller board with the higher voltage.

Alternatively, I've heard and read that ABS sticks really well to a Build-Tack surface without heating the bed.    Build-Tack costs about $14 for 5 sheets the size of the printer bed and apparently each sheet will last for quite a few prints.  Don't know if it also works with Nylon and other filaments, but I'm sure a little research would answer that.

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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2016, 06:56:46 PM »
Chuck
I've had great success with the Uhu glue sticks on my glass bed. (DaVinci 1.0)
Amazon. Box of 12.(the glue, not the printer :lolb:)
Not sure how my heated bed plays into the glue stick equation but worth a try.
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« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2016, 07:57:39 PM »
Aw shucks,  now y'all done got me wanting to melt some plastic.  To be honest I've been more interested in the 3d drawing.  I always enjoyed the mechanical type and I always worked from isometric piping drawings back when I had a real job. As Tom said;  I want to keep continuing to challenge what gray matter that I have, well what the 70s and 80s didn't erode  :lolb:. Now,  by being able to draw "it" and then push a button and see "it",  that's some pretty neat sh😈t to an old redneck,  I don't care if it's just a keyring.  I'm 56 and with today's rate of technologically in industry,  I can almost image when my grandfather thought when he watched Neil on the Moon.  I think any of us who can explore it should.  OK,  it's Friday and that's my rant  :lolb:

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« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2016, 08:23:07 PM »
For those that have 3d experience ... any words of wisdom on these?

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B015IHMOSK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A2UHE58S2974CT&psc=1

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« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2016, 12:18:31 AM »
They are out of there minds.
Very similar kit that I build Mine  was  about Half the money.

you can get a decent pre assembled Prusa I3  for $400 https://printedsolid.com/collections/3d-printers

The kit I built Here https://folgertech.com/products/folger-tech-reprap-2020-prusa-i3-full-aluminum-3d-printer-kit

If I were to put out$ 500 for a kit it would be this onehttps://folgertech.com/collections/3d-printer-full-kits/products/folger-tech-ft-5-large-scale-3d-printer-kit




I have dealt with Printed solid on several occasions the owner is as close to an expert on 3d printing as you will find he has tested every printer type he sells and a bunch he does not sell . He is an engineer with a Masters in material science. contact him and you will get an honest answer to any question. I have also met the folks at FT they are a small american family business.
I would never purchase a 3d printer kit from china.  To be fair the FT parts are sourced from china but ships from the USA.
At the price they sell these kits for there is not much QC so expect a few il fitting parts maybe a part missing , 1 or two poor quality  and some extra parts included some on purpose and maybe a couple not intentional.  But consider this part of the adventure. Also expect FT will take care of issues . It may take a few e-mails and some persistance.

I chose to start with a pre-built printer before building one. It also seems this hobby is a bit addictive and folks find 3d printers are like potato chips hard to have just one. After all you need one working to fix the one you are fixing or upgrading. Hope this helps  Will be glad to answer any 3dp questions you have.


The articles I have seen of people building Thehictop printer the results have not been great lots of issues and pitfalls.
Also if you decide you like the FT kits there is a Facebook group you can juin there is a an %11 off code you can use against the price of the kits.
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« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2016, 01:24:57 AM »
Quote
To be honest I've been more interested in the 3d drawing.
It would be my suggestion you download and try

123Ddesign. It is a Autodesk product of autoCAD fame. It is a new fresh product aimed at the beginner /hobbyist. It is free for non commercial use . It is well documented well supported and frequently updated. IMHO easier to learn than a lot of CAD programs you can enter real dimensions so well suited for mechanical parts. The program will not produce 2d dimensioned drawings but will produce nice 3d models. Available for windows,MAC and ipad.
this is not a limited use for XX days or crippleware it is usable free software inted to get people started in 3d design. Of course AD has lots of nicer more powerful programs to sell as well.
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« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2016, 11:26:44 AM »
Very good information Tin. I am in Canada and the link I showed was from a Canadian Supplier. Most of the price difference is exchange rate and import duties, otherwise it would be almost the same as the US one. Everything we buy is like that.

I will do some more reading.

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« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2016, 12:21:53 PM »
Ok Then Maybe not totally crazy then . As far as the Wahao Idea there is a  supplier in calgary that sells that one :

http://spool3d.ca/wanhao-duplicator-i3-v2/

So down to the bolts nitty gritty. The prusa i3 is a popular proven open source design from Josef Prusa.  As an open source many 3d printing companies have produced there own version of the printer or own version of the kit.

With any kit there are the risks I mentioned above. The missing misfit parts etc. The other risk is poor documentation  and poor product support from the seller.   

So the question here are you prepared to build this with nothing more than a basic guide and source any replacement parts on your own. and do you have the KSA to troubleshoot the kit once assembled.


OK not all doom gloom here.as i metioned lots of variations of the kit. What I would look for

In your case canadian supplier with a good rep for customer service, and good documentation.
A solid metal frame. 
good lead screws on the z axis something the Wahao has.
Metal bearing holders on the bed and extruder.
G2 belting

a layer cooling fan.

The auto level feature is something some folks like others do not. They can be problematic. But when they work it saves time  and the beds do sometimes move. The main disadvantage is you can not print on glass. you need an aluminum build plate to activate the proximity switch so you spend more on bed film.


If you are serious about this I suggest You  join http://www.soliforum.com/I am a member there as well.
If you have a good base knowledge in mechanics and electronics  you should be able to build any kit you buy. And with help of the fold here and at soliforum  you can find the resources you need to overcome  any shortcoming in the kit.
Most of the low end kits and printers have a marginal quality hot end and extruder. . And most folks who are serious about printing upgrade to an ED3 v6 hotend with newly released titan extruder. these upgrades will likely run you about $200 but nothing wrong with doing this later if you want.
FYI it took me about Two days to assemble my kit and another two weeks part time to sort out the bugs and get it running.
Tin
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« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2016, 02:29:24 PM »
Thanks Again Tin

I have joined that forum (waiting to be accepted as well as the one at Yahoo Groups. A lot to read and learn.

The shop in Calgary is out of stock, but that does seem to be a good one. I will read some more and make a decision this weekend.

Tom
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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2016, 02:55:07 PM »
I have started at the bottom and rebuilt cheaper machines too many times, so this time I am going to spend a bit more in the beginning and perhaps not have to do too much upgrading. 

This is my choice and I will likely pull the trigger tomorrow.  It seems to be all metal frame, able to use a lot of different filaments, has good temp range and speed range as well as use open source software. It should keep me busy for quite a while.

http://spool3d.ca/wanhao-duplicator-i3-plus/

Tom
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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2016, 05:29:53 PM »
should be good as a starter machine and last a while.  I like the fact is has decent lead screws and a layer fan. Good temperature range is important . if you want to print gears or other real parts higher temps and the ability to print nylon is an important feature.
See you have been accepted at soliforum . IMHO a great resource for learning 3d printing.

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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2016, 09:10:05 PM »
The machine will be on it's way Monday. Now, I get to do a bunch of learning (or trying to). I also just downloaded of 123Design. Methinks I need a wee dram of some of that amber liquid from Scotland.

Tom
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« Reply #40 on: July 16, 2016, 09:33:39 PM »
Excellent news congrats on your first printer.
The quick start tips should help you get going
you can now print or save the help document aka manual .
the ? on the top right  will give your help menu, top left main menu.

just do not consume the scottish amber while practicing calculus. We would not want you to drink and derive LOL.
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« Reply #41 on: July 16, 2016, 09:37:10 PM »
errr ... GROAN   :ROFL:
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« Reply #42 on: July 16, 2016, 10:09:44 PM »
There are decent you tube videos to get you started

hope this helps


C3 @ Library 21c
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0GgOKlbFkA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0GgOKlbFkA</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TzUtURpXDM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TzUtURpXDM</a>

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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2016, 10:17:00 PM »
Chuck, I apologize for high jacking your thread so badly. We now return to our regular programing.

Tom
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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #44 on: July 17, 2016, 12:17:02 AM »
Not a problem.  This is a good discussion on 3D printers  :)

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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #45 on: July 17, 2016, 12:44:46 AM »
So chuck what 2020 frame printer are you building. Looks related to the Ultimaker I like the looks of it .Ok after rereading I see it is  a scratch build  are you working off plans or on your own.

Sorry to hear the bad luck with the ramps . I fried an arduino board  when I built my kit but no serious problems. 
And looks like I led Tom down a long winding rabbit trail then down the hole.He bought a printer. 
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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #46 on: July 17, 2016, 01:32:36 AM »
So chuck what 2020 frame printer are you building. Looks related to the Ultimaker I like the looks of it .Ok after rereading I see it is  a scratch build  are you working off plans or on your own.

Sorry to hear the bad luck with the ramps . I fried an arduino board  when I built my kit but no serious problems. 
And looks like I led Tom down a long winding rabbit trail then down the hole.He bought a printer. 
Tin

Hey Tin,

Kind of a convoluted story behind the design of my 3D printer.  It all stared out as a Tantillus, a very small printer that is made up entirely of 3D printed parts, i bought off Craig's List several years ago.  Then another fellow called goopyplastic on one of the 3D printer forums I used to follow, came up with some 3D printed parts that used 2020 extrusions to make a Tantillus variant.  I used a TechShop Makerbot to print up the corner pieces, then decided to make the whole thing bigger by using longer 2020 extrusions.  From there, I kind of made up my own design using the Ultimaker as a model.  Long story short, I don't think I'm using any parts from the original Tantillus except one of the stepper motors...  :shrug:

I just pulled the trigger on an Azteeg X5 mini, V3 controller board.  I should have it Monday.  With the Azteeg board, I can use a 24v power supply which should help with the printer bed heater and the stepper motor acceleration.  I have high hopes for the print quality when I get it finished.

Chuck
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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #47 on: July 17, 2016, 04:21:16 AM »
HMM I am considering another build but not sure if I want to attempt a scratch build .
I have two printers running a almost stock solidoodle 4  and a Prusa I3 kit I built.
I have been pondering 


https://folgertech.com/products/folger-tech-ft-5-large-scale-3d-printer-kit

it is pretty big  seems like a nice kit for $500.
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Re: Nicely priced 3D Printer
« Reply #48 on: August 19, 2016, 11:13:18 AM »

And looks like I led Tom down a long winding rabbit trail then down the hole.He bought a printer. 
Tin

Not only you Tin, but I have to admit, you helped.

I am now looking for a second machine. I am also looking at the same one you are, but so far the shipping costs to Canada and the exchange rate are holding me back.

Tom
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