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Elegent Scroll Frame Skeleton Clock
Kim:
Welcome to my new build thread on my spring-driven motor which will drive a chronometer. ;D
I’ll be tackling John Wilding’s Elegant Scroll Frame Skeleton Clock:
Since it isn’t your standard steam or IC engine normally covered on this site, I’ll post this to the Oddball sub-form. Hopefully, anyone who’s interested will be able to find it there.
I read the whole book, several times. And while John Wilding gives lots of good helpful information, I found a lot of information is missing. At least, information that I need! There are several major subassemblies that he talks about in detail (like the fusee stop works, for example), but then never mentions where they go in the clock, or how they work. The Barel Click is another one. He says 'it doesn't move' but gives no more explanation. It took me a long time to figure out that it's probably just for letting the tension off the barrel if you want to unwind it. But it was very confusing for me for a LONG time. I’m sure if you’re an experienced horologist this isn’t an issue. But I was thoroughly stumped on many items. These were just a couple of them. There were a lot of things like that. An additional picture showing how a mechanism hooks into the rest of the clock would have been extremely helpful to me.
And the drawings leave off many dimensions. Maybe they aren't important, but it made me very uncomfortable. Maybe I'm just too used to the thorough explanations that Kozo provides in his books. I just needed more guidance in many places - not more details on how to make the part (though he has some good pointers on this, which is helpful), but info on how it works and how things interconnect. That's where I really needed more help.
So, to remedy this, I spent some significant time modeling it all up in 3D CAD (Fusion 360). It REALLY forced me to figure out how everything fits together and interconnects to make a working clock. However, I had to do a lot of googling and looking in other sources to figure out what some of these things were, what they were supposed to do, and how they fit into the whole. In the end, I think I’ve got most of that under control.
The question now is, will I be able to make it all work? That’s what this thread aims to find out! :embarassed:
Here's a screenshot of the 3D model of the clock. I think it looks pretty good! I’m certain I won’t be up to Clickspring standards, but I’ll be giving it my best shot.
Here’s another picture of the gear train with the frame removed so you can see it all better. John’s design uses a fusee which I’m quite excited about making.
As you can see, I didn’t model the line that will go from the Fusee to the Barrel. That got really messy fast. And since that’s just a purchased item, I decided not to bother with modeling it.
In addition to the clock, I’ll be making a few tools to go along with the project. A mainspring winder:
And a Depthing Tool:
At this point, I’ve completed the design work in CAD and am now creating drawings for all the parts. Here’s an example.
It's a little cumbersome doing this with the free version of Fusion 360 since (1) it will only allow you to have a single sheet in a drawing file and (2) you can only have 10 files available for editing at any time. So I’m frequently enabling and disabling editing on various files. But free is a very good price, so I’m putting up with that for now. And so I can print them on my printer, the drawings have to be A sized sheets, which means I can’t fit very much on a single sheet. I’m going to end up with 40-50 drawings by the time I’m done, I’m sure. I have a long way to go still.
I’m also creating a complete BOM spreadsheet, much like I put together for the A3 Switcher project. After that, I’ll get all the material on order. And eventually, I’ll begin actual work on the project.
I’m quite excited about it! :cartwheel:
Kim
Roger B:
That looks to be a different and fun project :ThumbsUp: I will be following along :) :wine1:
paul gough:
Looking forward to this build, lots of brass and plenty of teeth to cut. Clickspring’s standards are pretty high which one would expect from a mechanical engineer and technical college educator, so no apologies needed. Having the courage to tackle this clock without previous horological experience is laudable. I had Wildings book some years ago, like you found many things unfathomable so set aside any ideas of attempting it. Very best of luck. Paul Gough.
Chipswitheverything:
This looks like being a most interesting new challenge. Model engineering has embraced clock sized horology for much of its history, very fine exhibits of that kind featured in many of the Model Engineer exhibitions over decades, though tended to be exhibited by a few quite prolific, very skilful specialists. My late father , not a model engineer, but with a strong interest in working on older watches, started making one of these Wilding Skeleton clocks. But only got about as far as the huge sessions of chain drilling of the thick brass plates!, I think he began to realise that it was going to be an awful lot of work! Dave
Charles Lamont:
Oh wow, a clock build. I will be watching this one. (I have Wilding's booklet on the English Regulator, and have modelled most of that in CAD, for much the same reasons. Build? Probably won't have the time.)
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