Half size Stuart 10 V.

[gbritnell]

And when you finish up with that one you could go a bit smaller.

[Michael S.]

Hi Charles, maybe you both have the right eye for color.
I have a Stuart catalog that's maybe over 10 years old and 6011 or 6025 fits. And Jason meant the color of older models. I have a D 10 that I didn't build myself and must be over 20 years old. The 6005 fits in quite well.

@ gbritnell

The pictures of the very small 10 V are great! This is really excellently built.

Michael

[Jasonb]

the 6005 looks a good match to that engine.

As I said the supplied paint has varied over the years, primer can have an effect particularly if the topcoat is sprayed and a bit thing, colour can fade over time, be stained by oil, etc.

And that is assuming the the model being compared to was even painted with paint supplied by Stuarts, good old Humbrol No3 "Brunswick"  green is a common choice for models built in the UK and is certainly what I used on my early Stuarts though I did not use the very dark green for the box beds preferring black as I still often use.

If I'm going for a more traditional colour scheme on Stuart subjects then these days I use Ford "Forrest Green" which is quite a bit lighter than Brunswick

[Chipswitheverything]

When I painted my No 1 Stuart engine way back, I had a sort of "mind's eye" notion of the green I was trying for, based on a well made, older Stuart Turner steam engine and plant that I'd been lent when a teenager. I did a mix, seem to remember that it was a Brunswick green principally with a bit of yellow added.  Dave

[Jasonb]

Interesting post here about colours Not colour

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/modelsteam/viewtopic.php?p=1237520#p1237520

Edit, I just looked up the RAl equivalent of the old BS 225 green suggested in that post, what do you know, it's only RAL 6005

https://apc-gb.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/BS381C-Ral-Cross-Reference.pdf

[pgp001]

When I painted my No 1 Stuart engine way back, I had a sort of "mind's eye" notion of the green I was trying for, based on a well made, older Stuart Turner steam engine and plant that I'd been lent when a teenager. I did a mix, seem to remember that it was a Brunswick green principally with a bit of yellow added.  Dave

Dave

Nice finish on the Stuart, how did you acheive the blued steel look on the cylinder cladding ?

[Chipswitheverything]

Thanks pgp ; the cladding was cut from a sheet of blued steel that I had got from Reeves, quite thin, very springy, won't roll to retain shape.  On a No 10 that I built from casings bought back in the mid 1960's, they supplied a thicker strip of what I take to be the elusive "Russian Iron" , with a blued finish that was a sort of grey, nice.  Now, as with my late '70's castings No 1 engine, they had just sent some black anodised aluminium. Dave

[Michael S.]

It looks absolutely perfect. It's nice if you can cover the cylinder with blue sheet metal.
It's not easy to make such a sheet yourself.
In general, the No. 1 a dream!

Michael

[Jasonb]

Half size is so last year, seems bigger is the in thing. about a 14" (350mm) flywheel I would say

[Michael S.]

For these sizes I would have to reinforce the shelf in the living room!
Where did you see that? Is this a Stuart stall?

Michael

[Jasonb]

Yes on their stall at the Midlands show today.

[Michael S.]

Oh yes, it's this weekend. I wish all participants a good time at the show.

Maybe a few pictures of model engines and their builders?

Michael

[Chipswitheverything]

Thanks for your kind comment Michael!   Jason, were the outsized Stuart engines made up just as dummy models, from wood or mixed materials just for outward appearance as eye-catchers? Dave

[Jasonb]

They were castings but possibly some aluminium. Bit too chunky and clumsy looking as the small design does not really scale up well. For example they had copies of the "extruded" bearings where an engine that size wants some proper split ones, unsplit eccentric strap and so on. Not to mention modern BZP nuts.

From some of the patterns of machining marks there is some CNC work there too.

They had a nice completed 1/4HP gas engine for sale, Talking to John Lambert he is thinning down his personal collection so that one is to go. No intention to make it or any of the other obsolete engines available either.

They have also bought MJ Engineering. They have been doing their casting for some time.

[Michael S.]

My boss gave me an hour before work today and I immediately used the time wisely.
The cylinder has been started. A piece of brass was drilled and then turned to 8mm. For the first time I was able to use these little turning tools that I was given as a gift. A holder for this was made ourselves.
The cylinder was then machined with an expanding mandrel on the rotary table. The outside diameter is finished.

Michael