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vtsteam:
Hi all,
I just given this vertical boiler steam engine. It was said to have been in a fire, though after looking at it, I would say that it had an internal fire that flamed out the rear of the firebox vents before being put out. The rear vents are discolored. All of the base and other paint is intact (though well aged, and dirty) and even the nickel plated fittings and blued steel boiler cladding are undamaged. So I wouldn't say the model "had been in a fire." I'd say that it probably had an alcohol fuel spill flame up which was put out.

Anyway, I haven't found a maker's mark on it, and would appreciate help identifying it. The model is very nicely detailed, with a flyball governor, sight glass, bearing oilers, whistle, and what even looks like an adjustable boiler feed pump.

I doubt it will be restorable to working condition, particularly if it was over-fired, but we'll at least make a nice shelf model of it if it isn't.

Michael S.:
It could be a Doll model steam engine.
Maybe you can find more information on the Internet under Doll steam engine with boiler. (  Doll Modelldampfmaschine mit Kessel )

Michael

vtsteam:
Thank you Michael, that looks very similar in a lot of the details, though also different. I'll look for those online.

BTW, in my lower photo, you can see the "flamed" rear area of the firebox grate -- really not much discoloration there. And the boiler feed pump, just above that area has its red paint un-discolored.

vtsteam:
I've looked at the Doll engines I could find, definitely similar.

But I think this might be a brand called Carette -- also from Nuremburg.

Here's one that is nearly identical in almost all features. Definitely the base casting and also its paint job. The main difference I see is the firebox has no vents, firebox door is different, and mine has a boiler feed pump. Other than that everything else seems to match. Mine has an intact sight glass and the bluing is quite good on the boiler.

https://www.peters-toysteam.se/Carette_677-2A/en/index.htm

Michael S.:
Hello Steve,

There is a lot of connection with the tin toys from Nuremberg. I suspect the individual manufacturers used many parts at the same time. And put together the pieces for different customers with different budgets. The valves and pipe, water level and cylinder.

Greetings Michael

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