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Re: 1/2 Size KyKo Hot Air Engines
« Reply #105 on: February 08, 2025, 10:50:19 pm »
Hi Everyone

Work continues the KyKo project.
If you remember early on, I added the lubricator bosses to the bearing frames and the other pieces. This was so I could add the KyKo unique grease cups to my models. These were originally nickel plated and I may choose to do that, or maybe just leave them the way they are.


I didn’t take any machining photos of the process, just fussy small work. These are completely functional and the one for the displacer rod will be used, as it has a bronze bearing. The others are all ball bearings and will probably never need to be lubed.


Here is a set installed on one of the engines.


Next up is the burner assembly, I designed this using one of Jerry Howell’s burners as a starting point. All the joints are friction fit and when assembled into the wood base everything is locked together.
Sorry again no in process photos.


I purchased a couple of Cherry turning blanks from eBay and was not particularly happy with either one. I decided to go ahead and machine one and was pleasantly surprised how it looks. Here it is with the burner assembly installed and a few coats of tung oil applied.
The (turning) was all done on the CNC mill using bull nose end mill with a .03” radius.


Here is a bottom view showing how the burner mounts and some low-profile rubber feet to allow for air flow. All the hardware is 2-56 and Heli-Coils installed so machine screws could be used. I really didn’t want to deal with #2 wood screws.




This is pretty much where is sits at this point. This one is getting close. About all that it left to do on this one is some fettling and paint work.

More later, thanks for checking in.

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Re: 1/2 Size KyKo Hot Air Engines
« Reply #106 on: February 08, 2025, 10:58:44 pm »
They are beautiful, they look like miniature pine cones or pineapples!  :)
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Sanjay

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Re: 1/2 Size KyKo Hot Air Engines
« Reply #107 on: February 09, 2025, 05:08:35 am »
Very nice grease cups and base, Dave!   :ThumbsUp: :popcorn: :popcorn:

You did a great job with the Cherry wood. It's beautiful!
I haven't really ever liked working with cherry, I find it very brittle and unforgiving.  Guess that shows you I'm not much of a woodworker, eh? :)

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Re: 1/2 Size KyKo Hot Air Engines
« Reply #108 on: February 09, 2025, 11:26:18 pm »
Spotless ! Perfect Dave !  :cheers:

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Re: 1/2 Size KyKo Hot Air Engines
« Reply #109 on: February 10, 2025, 12:38:53 am »
Thanks guys! I appreciate the nice comments.

Dave

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Re: 1/2 Size KyKo Hot Air Engines
« Reply #110 on: March 02, 2025, 10:29:12 pm »
Hi Guys,

Here is a short video of the Kyko stationary engine running. Now I need to work on the fan version and get these two finished up.

Dave

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4NfZZrBTbE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4NfZZrBTbE</a>

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Re: 1/2 Size KyKo Hot Air Engines
« Reply #111 on: March 02, 2025, 11:00:21 pm »
As smooth as silk, wonderful  :ThumbsUp:
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Re: 1/2 Size KyKo Hot Air Engines
« Reply #112 on: March 02, 2025, 11:37:35 pm »
That's beautiful, Dave!  So smooth and quite!  You must feel pretty good about that!  :ThumbsUp: :popcorn:
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Re: 1/2 Size KyKo Hot Air Engines
« Reply #113 on: March 03, 2025, 01:11:54 am »
Great and smooth runner. Probably due to the fact that you are also a smooth operator  ;D

I cant await to see the Fan version running

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Re: 1/2 Size KyKo Hot Air Engines
« Reply #114 on: March 03, 2025, 06:52:50 am »
That has turned out rather nice.

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Re: 1/2 Size KyKo Hot Air Engines
« Reply #115 on: March 03, 2025, 07:19:58 am »
Splendid  :praise2:  :wine1:
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Re: 1/2 Size KyKo Hot Air Engines
« Reply #116 on: March 03, 2025, 04:51:36 pm »
Wonderful result - smooth and quiet Runner - Great Looks  :praise2:

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Re: 1/2 Size KyKo Hot Air Engines
« Reply #117 on: March 04, 2025, 04:59:59 pm »
Thanks for all the nice comments guys!

You think these engines if properly should be almost silent, this one is pretty darn quiet. From a few feet away you can not really hear it run. It does however have swish swish sound from the power piston running its cylinder. The finish in the bore is not a good as I would have liked but it runs good enough that I think I'm going to leave it be. It also has a funny little rattle that I have attributed to one or all three of the ball bearings, by design they have some radial and axial slop. I think the sound travels down through the power piston rod and the very thin graphite piston acts like a speaker, which amplifies the mechanical sounds from the engine. When I first got it going I had some annoying clicks that were coming from the plain bearing in the displacer rod and the wrist pin in the power piston both of which had one or two thow of excess clearance. These parts were remade which took care of that noise.

Thanks again!
Dave

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Re: 1/2 Size KyKo Hot Air Engines
« Reply #118 on: March 08, 2025, 11:02:35 pm »
Hi Everyone

Work is continuing with the KyKo project and now I have started work on the base and cage for the fan version.
I will not be using the materials supplied in the kit or following the directions and plans. My desire is to create a much more accurate model of the original fan. I do own an original fan, but it is missing the cage. I have collected enough information that I hopefully will be able to make a correct cage for my model and also my full sized one.


Both the base and cage were designed to be easily knocked down for transport. The cage is split into two halves, at 3 and 9 o’clock. The base has three nicely curved legs, a lower platform that anchors the legs and holds the burner. The legs lock into the upper platform that also serves as the mount for the engine.
Looking at the patent drawing you can see how the base is constructed.


This is a photo of my fan to give you an idea of where I’m heading. I have seen photos of two different heights of bases, Mine is the tall one and the other is somewhat shorter.


I picked up this fan for a pretty reasonable price on eBay as it was missing one of its legs. In this photo it has three new legs that I made for it. After coming up with the design and process to manufacture the legs, it will be straight forward to cut everything in half and make a small set.


Here you can see how each leg has two hooks that engage in slots in the upper base, as the leg is swung into position it gets locked into place. The lower base keeps the legs in place.


Starting out the base was laser cut from 24ga galvannealed steel.


The three sides were then bent to 55 degrees like the original. The bends cannot go all the way to the ends, or you would have a mess where they come together. They could be notched for some bend relief but that is not how the original was done. It was probably done in a press with a punch and die that formed the whole thing in one shot.


My choice was to design a hammer form and 3d print it in solid Nylon. This tool will clamp onto the base and allow the three ends to be gently formed into shape. It locates by the arc over the two dowel pins and the single screw out on the point. The hole in the sheet metal will be used for foot and retainer clip, so it was not added only for the hammer form.


This is what it looks like assembled.


And assembled on to one of the sheet metal blanks.


Here it has been taped into shape, it has a little curve to it, which is exactly how the big one looks. This detail needs to fit into the inside corner of the formed sheet metal leg.


Here is a shot of the finished part.

More to come, thanks for checking in.
Dave

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Re: 1/2 Size KyKo Hot Air Engines
« Reply #119 on: March 09, 2025, 12:07:48 am »
fantastic Craftsmanship Dave ! Beautiful bends !

 

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