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Offline matthew-s

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Re: Looking to upgrade lathe - any personal experience here?
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2022, 02:09:06 AM »

I ordered my PM1022 lathe with the stand. I really didn't like the stand. Ended up building a heavy wood rolling bench for it. Right now the blue stand is holding my Sherline, no problem with that weight. Where are you? I have a stand for you real cheap.

Would you get a reduction in shipping if you ordered the mill and lathe together? Still might come at different times so no sharing a ride.


Thanks! Unfortunately I'm quite far from SD. I'm in MA.

What about the stand do you not like?

Perhaps I should explore a 3rd party option (a different manufacturer's stand, or a toolchest as I've seen others do) ...
My current mini-lathe is on a stout (and I'd like to think rather handsome) wood cabinet. For some reason I don't have the heart to build another one.

I'm pretty sure the 10x22 is too big for my current stand - -  but maybe mounting points fit in it's envelope and the late would just over hanging it. I'm pretty confident it can take the weight  .. maybe more measurements are called for  :thinking:

I know PM lets you add other items to the shipment of a machine - I'm not so sure about ordering two machines. That said, I'm not sure I want to plonk down for two machines at once, and then spend my winter getting both up and running (I have limited shop time at this stage of life).

Offline FKreider

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Re: Looking to upgrade lathe - any personal experience here?
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2022, 01:38:39 PM »
I am also located in MA and would be happy to assist getting machinery into your shop, it would be nice to meet a fellow model engineer here in the commonwealth!

I've moved several full size machine tools (my shop is ground level) and in my experience taking your time and thinking through the move always leads to good results!
-Frank K.

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Re: Looking to upgrade lathe - any personal experience here?
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2022, 01:02:15 AM »
May be just me but I found the PM stand for the 1022 not all that stable. It is near the depth of the lathe, which is pretty narrow. It's made as two "cabinets" connected together as can be seen in its pictures. That makes it hard to slide into position and even harder to use pipes to roll it. The stand sat on the ground with no mechanism to level it. This is likely OK if the floor is pretty level as you can shim between the stand and lathe.

I think one of those rolling cabinets from Home Depot or Harbor Freight would work well and give a lot of extra storage. Don't know if you can find one the width for the 1022. I got one for my Sherline and it seems sturdy. It was too tall with the stock caster wheels and too low if the casters were removed. I added plywood pads (6"x6" or so) to each corner and have been pleased. Maybe even add some leveling feet?

You could add a new top to your existing bench, or remake the top. My stand for the 1022 has two layers of 3/4" ply for the top. That has seemed to work well.

Sorry you can't try the stand I have. Shipping would kill us though.

I hope this is of some help. Thanks.

Thanks! Unfortunately I'm quite far from SD. I'm in MA.

What about the stand do you not like?

Perhaps I should explore a 3rd party option (a different manufacturer's stand, or a toolchest as I've seen others do) ...
My current mini-lathe is on a stout (and I'd like to think rather handsome) wood cabinet. For some reason I don't have the heart to build another one.
Hugh

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Re: Looking to upgrade lathe - any personal experience here?
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2022, 10:18:47 PM »
For the courtesy of not leaving a dangling thread. I received the mill a week ago. I was finally able to get it into the basement last night, and it's "mostly" assembled - all that's left is some final tidying up of wires and then I'll need to check the tram (I had to remove the head to get it in the basement).

WAY bigger than the Taig, and it has a DRO - I'm optimistic that will speed up some of the more tedious aspects of setup!

Looking forward to first chips, petty confident they will happen in 2022!

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Re: Looking to upgrade lathe - any personal experience here?
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2022, 11:23:36 PM »
Congrqtulations on your new mill!  :ThumbsUp:
Aren't you going to post. Picture of it for us?  :popcorn:
We need to see what you got!
Kim

Offline Niels Abildgaard

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Re: Looking to upgrade lathe - any personal experience here?
« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2022, 04:17:03 AM »
I like to modify and somehow improve cheap,new chinese lathes.
My latest is a 210/180 combinatio on a 300 mm long bed sitting on a piece of granite.
Drive is a bought as 750W sewing machine DC motor but i have never seen more than 550W on 220V side

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhx6bJHdUuY&list=UUl1kMtx8XGqBr2dNLXEGBPw

Looking for something to do next I have stumbled on this

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005003878299413.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2deu

Only problem is that there is not much to improve
But the electric leadscrew and the price is tempting

Some pictures can be seen in high resolution here if You click picture twice

https://forum.zerspanungsbude.net/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=30550&p=801766#p801766

There is also a picture of a mistreated M16 12.9 Unbrako screw made by the 180/210 lathe and sewingmachinemotor

« Last Edit: December 17, 2022, 03:15:24 PM by Niels Abildgaard »

Offline Djangodog

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Re: Looking to upgrade lathe - any personal experience here?
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2023, 01:26:23 PM »
I understand the desire for new, but many of the older machines are dependable and turn key.  I currently have a Hardinge HLV-BK from the 1950s.  It has been very reliable, (it is a bit heavy, so getting it into a basement is pretty much out of the question).  Unfortunately, many newer machines tend to lack rigidity and will not hold up well in the long run.

My previous lathe was a South Bend Heavy 10, (the toolroom model with the extended feed range, twice the spindle speeds because of the two speed motor and flame hardened ways).  The drawback is that the max speed speed is not as high as a newer machine, (but the lowest speeds in back gear can be very useful).  The South Bend was a pleasure to use and I often wish that I still owned it.  I used it for more than ten years and sold it for more than I paid for it.

The south Bend can also be dismantled, so it can be brought into a basement.  In good condition, a South Bend Heavy 10 is a nice, rigid and accurate machine and they accept 5C collets and an AXA quick change toolpost, (a big plus). 

If you want a machine that will last you a lifetime and don’t want to break the bank, a good vintage machine is hard to beat, (just my opinion).

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Re: Looking to upgrade lathe - any personal experience here?
« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2023, 05:22:42 PM »
It’s surprising how much you can fit into a small space.  My shop went from 20’ x 20’ down to an “L” shape and finally down to 8’ x 10’ and I still have a Hardinge lathe, a Bridgeport, surface plate and work bench.  Fortunately, it is in the garage, so the weight of my machinery is not very important.  I don’t want to hijack your thread, but if you are interested in seeing how I utilized the space, you can follow this link.

https://www.modelenginemaker.com/index.php/topic,11327.0.html

Best of luck with your shop and projects.

 

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