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Offline Roger B

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Two cylinder fuel injected engine
« on: May 08, 2022, 05:59:05 PM »
This isn't really finished but I am happy with the test run tonight. I could add and remove the load bank and accelerate into the load without stalling. The load back is 1 ohm and the meter is 15A FSD so I was getting ~80W max output, much the same as with the 180° crankshaft and SU type carb.

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Roger

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Re: Two cylinder fuel injected engine
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2022, 10:49:32 PM »
Very impressive running - smooth, quick throttle response - with and with out load   :praise2:   :praise2:

No wonder you are happy with the result Roger  :ThumbsUp:    :cheers:

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Re: Two cylinder fuel injected engine
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2022, 11:13:49 PM »
Roger,

Very impressive. A nice reward for all your hard work and dedication.

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Re: Two cylinder fuel injected engine
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2022, 12:58:29 AM »
Roger-

This whole project has been incredible.  It is far beyond impressive.  Very well done.

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Re: Two cylinder fuel injected engine
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2022, 01:31:08 PM »
very impressive result, the pump responds precisely to the slightest pick up, what a success !

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Re: Two cylinder fuel injected engine
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2022, 11:12:24 AM »
Excellent result for your effort, Roger.  Really good to see a model responding well to being loaded up.

I think you might be being a bit hard on yourself in assessing the power output.  If I am remembering correctly, you are using a small dc motor as a generator.  I don’t really know the efficiency of the motor as a generator, but I have seen it quoted as low as 50%.  This would make the engine output nearer 160 watts for use in an eventual tractor model.  Or do you have some better information on the generator efficiency?

It has been a great thread to follow with your painstaking efforts at precision work, and the self documenting photo file names.

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Re: Two cylinder fuel injected engine
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2022, 07:54:48 PM »
Thank you all for your interest  :)  :) there have been lots of ups and downs on this project  ::)  :)  :toilet_claw: but I am getting there  :wine1:

This version works well but there are still some problems with the helix metering pump and petrol, benzine, gasoline, the non linearity due to leakage past the helix and leakage past the plunger that affects the lubrication of the pump drive system. Diesel fuel would not be a problem so I would keep with the helix for my diesel work as it resolves the injection timing issues. I have a stroke controlled design for petrol injection that I will try as the next stage.

The 80W I could measure is what it is. The efficiency of the motor/generator is probably no better than 50% as MJM460 says, and it is also not sufficient to load the engine fully. I have two versions of this motor with different windings. The Torpedo 850 is used on my 25cc horizontal engine, geared up 4-1, where I have achieved ~120W at an engine speed of 3000rpm, so a motor speed of 12,000 rpm. The twin uses a direct coupled Torpedo 800 running at max 8000 rpm. Replacing the 800 with the 850 reduced the measured power to ~49W (7v 7A). Real maximum output is probably 250W or more but hopefully I can get enough output for a tractor at lower revs, 8000rpm in not exactly tractor like  :thinking:
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Roger

 

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