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I think SCO has/had a Wabeco. Last I saw he now has a Pultra What ever you choose make sure go and try the lathe before you buy. Some people find no problem with that built down to a price feel, others wouldn't give one workshop space. Jo
I did indeed have a D2000 (now a Boley and a 102).
Is there anywhere locally you can go and try out these machines to find out which you prefer?I get the idea that you were talking about using this for manufacturing purposes.
My focus is on a milling machine (WABECO F1210 HS ISO30), for turning and boring process, sometimes I need a precision lathe. I want to produce small and precision parts for local companies.
Jo he wants the lathe for the turned components and has enquired elsewhere about mills for milling.
I think you are just looking for a basic lathe, not a precision lathe.Jo
There is some very precise work done on the Compact 5 machines, such as high performance model aircraft engines used in international competition, these guys don't lap their pistons they turn the high silicon content alloys with CBN inserts and work to microns. Even back in the day when the Compact 5 was sold Emco made a big point that it was used by Hanno Prettner to work on his engines
Quote from: Jasonb on November 19, 2021, 07:18:41 PMThere is some very precise work done on the Compact 5 machines, such as high performance model aircraft engines used in international competition, these guys don't lap their pistons they turn the high silicon content alloys with CBN inserts and work to microns. Even back in the day when the Compact 5 was sold Emco made a big point that it was used by Hanno Prettner to work on his enginesAgreed. My Austrian made EMCO V10P with FB2 is a match for any jumped up blue painted Swiss gadget...
Quote from: simplyloco on November 19, 2021, 08:38:38 PMQuote from: Jasonb on November 19, 2021, 07:18:41 PMThere is some very precise work done on the Compact 5 machines, such as high performance model aircraft engines used in international competition, these guys don't lap their pistons they turn the high silicon content alloys with CBN inserts and work to microns. Even back in the day when the Compact 5 was sold Emco made a big point that it was used by Hanno Prettner to work on his enginesAgreed. My Austrian made EMCO V10P with FB2 is a match for any jumped up blue painted Swiss gadget... I never saw any Emco's on the Typhoon Aircraft or any other defence/Satellite production lines or in their associated toolrooms I did see plenty of Hardinges and Schaublins.Jo
Quote from: Jo on November 19, 2021, 09:38:45 PMQuote from: simplyloco on November 19, 2021, 08:38:38 PMQuote from: Jasonb on November 19, 2021, 07:18:41 PMThere is some very precise work done on the Compact 5 machines, such as high performance model aircraft engines used in international competition, these guys don't lap their pistons they turn the high silicon content alloys with CBN inserts and work to microns. Even back in the day when the Compact 5 was sold Emco made a big point that it was used by Hanno Prettner to work on his enginesAgreed. My Austrian made EMCO V10P with FB2 is a match for any jumped up blue painted Swiss gadget... I never saw any Emco's on the Typhoon Aircraft or any other defence/Satellite production lines or in their associated toolrooms I did see plenty of Hardinges and Schaublins.JoIs that because Hardinges and Schaublins were better suited to the precision required to build jet fighters and space craft and rather wasted machining model steam engine parts.
Have you considered a Sherline?Jo
Precision Lathe, Wabeco D-4000In 2016, ee purchase a WABECO precision Lathe D4000 with prismatic cast iron bed, 1.4 kW and a center distance 350 mm. It permit precision machining of iron or cupper jackettes, metals capsules, small tools, machinale ceramics, and HT furnace making.
Quote from: Jo on November 20, 2021, 05:15:33 PMHave you considered a Sherline?I think Sherline is suitable for woodworking!
Have you considered a Sherline?
PS: I haven't seen any mention of Cowells lathes in this conversation. Other than what Jo and Bill Lindsey have talked theirs, I know nothing about them.
Hello, I've bought famous German Wabeco D4000 Lathe custom made had to wait 3months, but the quality is very bad. Look at defective hand wheels from chinaLook same handwheels in china http://archive.is/HL7H3I'm fed up with their support that answes once a week!After this reply I'm stumped"I contact our technician again.Kindly send us pictures of the spare parts and describe what is wrong.For example you claim that part 24 16073430003014 is not correct.This is a DIN part and canīt be wrong."I emailed requested replace parts:- TRAVERSE SKID manual page 18.8- PART 16 10400454- PART 17 10400433- PART 20 51004035-0010- PART 23 51507023-0001- PART 24 16073430003014- PART 33 10400406- LONGITUDINAL SKID manual page 18.10- PART 5 10400501- PART 20 51004035-0010- PART 45 10400519- PART 46 10400528- PART 52 51507023-0001- PART 53 16073430003014- PART 57 10400508- TAILSTOCK manual page 18.11- PART 6 (51006550-0003) and 20 (51502517) Together PART 8 (10400624) - PART 11 (51004035-0012) PART 21 (51507023-0001) PART 22 - 16073430003014- TOOL SKID LOCK PLATE manual page 18.9- PART 22 (51006555-0021)- PART 33 (10400433)- PART 27 (51004035-0011)- PART 31 (16073430003024)Afterwads 22 days of silence from Wabeco. It has been 5 years since no parts arrived no communication with the reputable german seller. Lathe is not used.
Don't think xzsawq21 is listening Jo, or understanding what you are writing - so far it seems none of your questions have been answered.
This is also the only forum where I find such forcible requests for an intro. 99% of first posts I approve are not intro ones and at least 75% of those new members probably don't subsequently post any form of intro
I would think English is not the OP's first language so quite possibly not understanding. It's also quite clear they have no interest in making engines so can't post about that but have probably come here in the hope that our members are the type who use the Wabeco machines.This is also the only forum where I find such forcible requests for an intro. 99% of first posts I approve are not intro ones and at least 75% of those new members probably don't subsequently post any form of intro
It is not so much the asking but the way that I quiet often see it being asked. Take post #28 for example effectively saying the person is bad mannered when they simply may not have been able to understand what was being asked is hardly welcoming.
as a machinist having used CNC lathes and mills i have also used lathes and ones with live tooling so would do the milling in the lathe while the work is set in the lathe and with more modern machines milling in the lathe should be more common with interactive programming finished parts of the lathe .i don't think the more precision tools are wasted its often more cost and whats available to run in home work shopwith a domestic power supply I would always mill in the lathe if the machine is available but mostly can not be cause i no longer have access to the machines for industry or manufacturing these types of machines should be considered .some jobs are better suited to a separate milling machine but for turning and milling lots can be done on the lathe with live tooling.John
Why have many people reported defects in the WABECO D4000?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq5tBf9x7Bkhttps://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=115245etc. etc.
Sorry meant post #37
It is good manners to introduce yourself and tell us about your interest in making model engines before you start trying to gain from the members experience and knowledge. Jo
It might be helpful to know where in the world you are located. Most folks add their location in the Personal Text box of their Forum Profile.What other type of work do you plan? You mentioned a lead screw do you want this for power feed or thread cutting or both.
Why do they make vertical slides for lathes?Cheers Dan
Quote from: Flyboy Jim on November 21, 2021, 04:03:39 PMPS: I haven't seen any mention of Cowells lathes in this conversation. Other than what Jo and Bill Lindsey have talked theirs, I know nothing about them.There used to be a rather long waiting list for a new Cowells lathe, I think Bill mentioned he managed to get his within 6 months of the original order They are a very, very nice little lathe Little C gets regularly used. Its another of those lathes where the saddle is "fixed" on the lead screw so there can be a lot of winding to move the carriage anywhere. Jo