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Title: Compound in my boat
Post by: steamer on July 24, 2012, 04:00:15 AM
My compound in my boat

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/mcandrew1894/Steam%20Launch%20Rushforth/P9150039.jpg)

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/mcandrew1894/Steam%20Launch%20Rushforth/P9010017.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/mcandrew1894/media/Steam%20Launch%20Rushforth/P9010017.jpg.html)

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/mcandrew1894/Steam%20Launch%20Rushforth/DYNO21.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/mcandrew1894/media/Steam%20Launch%20Rushforth/DYNO21.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: Pete49 on July 24, 2012, 04:23:37 AM
looks nice steamer.   :whoohoo: Any chance of some info on it like the is it home made or purchased what size is the boat materials etc etc as its something I have always had a soft spot. Enquiring minds would like to know :happyreader:
Pete
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: steamer on July 24, 2012, 05:14:43 AM
Hi Pete,
Engine, boiler and boat were designed and built by me.   took a while.....

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/mcandrew1894/Steam%20Launch%20Rushforth/Hibiscus018.jpg)

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/mcandrew1894/Steam%20Launch%20Rushforth/P7100057.jpg)

Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: Pete49 on July 24, 2012, 09:20:33 AM
very nice  :jumpingsmileys: Just love the vessel. Saw a nice fantail launch of about 18ft on the river a couple years ago and sat and watched it for and hour as it steamed around the area we were at. Made my day it did
Pete
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: Captain Jerry on July 24, 2012, 12:48:13 PM
Dave

Wow!  I've seen pics of the engine and some closeups of the installation but this is the first I've seen of you and the boat under way. Great stuff.  Even sitting here in 90? Florida, I can feel the crisp air and warm sunshine in those pictures.  Wish I was there!

What does it take to prepare for a day out?  What kind of fuel and how much?  How long to raise steam? What body of water is that? Do you have any photos of the boat build that you could post?

Jerry


Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: lazylathe on July 24, 2012, 02:24:28 PM
Hi Dave,

Thanks for posting this again! :NotWorthy:

Would you be so kind as to post the link again to the build log/website you have for it?
The boat building process was amazing!!
 :AllHailTheKing:

Andrew
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: jonesie on July 24, 2012, 03:40:51 PM
 :jumpingsmileys:nice job steamer,top notch workmanship. thanks for showing jonesie
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: Dan Rowe on July 24, 2012, 04:07:57 PM
Hi Dave,
Thanks for the under steam photos, that looks like a lot of fun.

Old age must be getting to my memory :old: because I forgot what the bore and stroke and hull length is. I have castings for a Stuart 6A compound that I hope to get to some day.

Dan :Jester:
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: steamer on July 24, 2012, 05:40:36 PM
What happened with my photo's....and why was  this (    :Director: ) put in ?


Dave

Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: AdeV on July 24, 2012, 05:44:55 PM
Dave,

Your photos are displaying just fine for me... no sign of a  :Director: smiley either, other than in your most recent post...

No, I see it now.... no idea how/why, there's no "edited by", it could be your post got corrupted somehow. Which would be quite alarming.... I will go check the database.

Can you send me the link to the missing picture(s), I will restore them for  you.
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: steamer on July 24, 2012, 05:48:49 PM
Well......they're not now....?....it's replaced with  :Director:
Come to think of it....That may be my work firewall in action...it doesn't like PB.....I'll check on my smartphone.....and confirm.

What is the significance of the ( :Director:) emoticon anyway?

Thanks!

Dave
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: Brass_Machine on July 24, 2012, 05:50:14 PM
Pictures look good here. I see them just fine...
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: Dan Rowe on July 24, 2012, 05:54:56 PM
Dave,
I just deleted my browser history and I see the photos fine.

 :Director: I thought that was the bosin giving orders to the crew.

Dan  :Jester:
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: AdeV on July 24, 2012, 05:56:27 PM
Dave - I can see 3 photos, 1 in your 1st post & 2 in your second.

I can also see the "director" smiley.

It has no significance. I have no idea how it got there. You have to type the text :?Director: to make it appear manually. The database checks out OK. I think we have a bona fide mystery here...
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: steamer on July 24, 2012, 06:00:47 PM
Well...it'll get sorted...

The Engine is a 1.5 x 3.0 x 2.5 compound with inside admission on the HP and outside admission on the LP
The boat is 25' long and has a 5' beam and is modelled after a New Haven sharpie as was notably published in steamboats and modern steam launches as the launch "Panatella".    I redid the sketch to add 6" of beam and narrowed her entrance and exit a bit, as a result it doubled the righting moment.   This makes a boat that I can jump up and down on the gunwale amidship and she just shrugs it off.    VERY stable.

About 6-7 knots with 2HP....and a good head of steam.
I did a presentation at NEMES (www.neme-s.org) and they have a PDF of the presentation online there.  It's a big file.....beware!

http://www.neme-s.org/The%20Construction%20of%20the%20Steamlaunch.pdf

Dave


PS   Where's my manners!    Thanks for the interest and support!....  =bow=


Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: steamer on July 24, 2012, 06:38:02 PM
Hi Jerry,

Well, assuming I don't need to fix or adjust anything......a rare occurance on any steamboat.

Load the truck with wood.  I use scraps from a hard wood floor company ....mostly kiln dried hickory....goes like gasoline!

Paper to get started with

Fill the bow tank.
Check the trailer tires
Check the tools
Check the oil
Load up the kids....as required
Go
Get there.
Lite off on the trailer....and get at least 60 psi on the gage....and blow down to 2/3's glass
Launch the boat....get wet usually
Warm the engine at the dock
Load up and push off./

I keep the wood in 5 gallon plastic buckets for easy of loading.
the boiler can be fired from the front or rear cockpit.....and it's hungry!
The engine has force lubricated ,via an oil pump , for the connecting rods big ends while everything else is drip feed
At top speed the engine is turning near 600 rpm with a 16 x 18 3 blade prop.  force lube to the con rod bearings at this speed is just about manditory.    They're just going to fast to count on drip feed.

I can take water from the bow tank or from the water I'm in.   The boat has a keel condensor for condensing duty with an engine driven feed and wet air pump.

It additionally has an injector and a hand feed pump.

I want to add more economizer to the boiler.  It has 4.5 square feet now and I would like to double it.   I have 1 square foot of feedwater heater

It's got a lot going on.   It can be a handful to operate and navigate....but I'm getting better at it.

Dave


Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: kc5ezc on July 25, 2012, 02:18:41 AM
Steamer:  What a nice boat!  Thanks for the nemes link. The pictures were great. 
Looks like it was a labor of love.
Thanks for showing it.
John Burchett
in Byng OK
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: RonGinger on July 25, 2012, 03:08:46 AM
You dont know how much arm-twisting it took to get Dave to build his own boat. He was going to BUY a boat. I even brought him to a Maine Boatbuilders Show and introduced him to some builder, just to scare hell out of him on prices. ;D

Once he got in to the idea he learned a huge bit about proper boat design and did a great job of it.

I am always on the lookout to sucker someone else into wood boat building  :LittleDevil:
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: steamer on July 25, 2012, 03:20:28 AM
Thanks for the kind comments!   Ron ....there's a special place for you.....near the grates of the boiler....come on down!...  :LittleDevil:



Dave
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: dsquire on July 25, 2012, 03:34:26 AM
Dave

I don't know what the photo problem is. Yesterday they were showing on my computer but today they are not. Check your Photo Bucket Account to be sure they didn't get deleted/moved/renamed. I enjoyed seeing them again.

Cheers  :cheers:

Don
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: Pete49 on July 25, 2012, 03:38:24 AM
I had the same problem re the photos but did a delete history and they are back (thanks for the tip Dan) :cheers:
Steamer thats one heck of a boat and engine my hat is off to you.
Pete
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: steamer on July 25, 2012, 03:43:31 AM
Hi Don,

Oh I have my PB account well and truly sorted now.    Thats not the problem.   The firewall at work is the problem...doesn't like PB

Fair enough

I sorted out my pictures....ie I moved them....all of them.

Fresh start and all......

Dave
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: S.G.S.W. on September 02, 2012, 01:08:57 AM
Hi steamer,

You have truly done an outstanding job with your steamer. :)

Looking through the pictures on your pdf I find myself intrigued with the structure of your boat shed.  How are the trusses constructed?  Is the cover a tarp or something else?  It looks like an economical way of creating a work space.
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: steamer on September 02, 2012, 01:45:12 AM
Hi SGSW

It's called a bow roof shed.  The plans for it can be found online

http://www.by-the-sea.com/stimsonmarine/bowroof.html

I've got some pictures somewhere of the shed with 4 1/2 feet of snow on it or about 8000 pounds.....

Its made of laminated arches made up of 1x3 fir straping and 2x3's bent glued and screwed together.
I put it down on 11 cubic yards of "graded base" which is crushed stone/stone dust which compacts very well yet drains any and all water way.   

She's 14' wide and 30' long...but could be made bigger or smaller...your choice

It cost about $1000 when I built it

That's extra heavy tarp that I glued and screwed to the arches.   

Dave
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: steamer on September 02, 2012, 01:58:52 AM
Here's the inside 5 years (and winters!) after I put it up and the hull was done.

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/mcandrew1894/Steam%20Launch%20Rushforth/P1010058.jpg)

Shows some features of the construction.

Dave
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: Don1966 on September 02, 2012, 02:16:31 AM
Hi Dave, just looked at the PDF photos of the boat built. That is some of the most inspiring work. That was a labor of love bud and well done. You should be very proud of your achievement. Your son will have a treasure and legacy when he grows up. And I am sure he will be proud of it, like you are.

Don
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: steamer on September 02, 2012, 02:18:22 AM
Thanks Don!    It only took 13 years...... :Doh:

Dave
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: steamer on September 02, 2012, 02:22:57 AM
By the way...that shed is now 10 years old.....still as stout as the day I put it up....but has a new cover...My brother stores his car in it.

Dave
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: steamer on September 02, 2012, 02:24:37 AM
Flank speed

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/mcandrew1894/Steam%20Launch%20Rushforth/P9170060.jpg)

Dave
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: Maryak on September 02, 2012, 03:31:01 AM
If that's flank speed what does dead slow look like  :slap:

Best Regards
Bob
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: steamer on September 02, 2012, 03:54:06 AM
Hey You!   it's only 2 HP.....what ya think I got a gas turbine! :ROFL:

Dave


I love sneaking up on sail boats......and signaling to overtake on the starboard side and scaring the (*(*&u@_ out of them when I do....

 :ROFL:
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: S.G.S.W. on September 02, 2012, 04:02:37 PM
Dave,

Thank you for the shed info and picture.  I'll definitely be ordering the plans from the link.

Jim
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: steamer on September 02, 2012, 04:09:03 PM
Welcome Jim!

Dave
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: Dan Rowe on October 26, 2012, 11:39:35 PM
Dave,
I thought of you when I stumbled apon a document on steam boat guidelines written by the Northwest Steam Society.

I know you know this stuff but it might be helpful for another builder.
http://www.northweststeamsociety.org/Pages/GOSH-FINAL.pdf

 :cheers:
Dan
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: ScroungerLee on October 27, 2012, 12:05:55 AM
Wow that is amazing!  You must enjoy it very much.  Is there a whistle?  Childish minds want to know   


Lee
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: steamer on October 27, 2012, 12:59:52 AM
Of Course!.....12" 4 chime.

Thanks for the nice comments!

Dave
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: steamer on October 27, 2012, 03:04:29 AM
Hey Dan,

My tubular gage glass has been updated to a guarded glass with safety checks

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/mcandrew1894/Steam%20Launch%20Rushforth/1315764685642.jpg)

My son wants to sit back aft, so had to do it.

Dave
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: ScroungerLee on October 27, 2012, 03:10:11 AM
Methinks your watermark took over your photo!

Lee
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: steamer on October 27, 2012, 03:13:43 AM
YUP try that one

Dave
Title: Re: Compound in my boat
Post by: Dan Rowe on October 27, 2012, 03:27:32 AM
Dave,
Nice to see it installed, I remember the discussion about it a while back.

Dan