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Supporting => Tooling & Machines => Topic started by: Ridjobradi on December 27, 2017, 03:36:23 AM

Title: Steinel SH4 mill
Post by: Ridjobradi on December 27, 2017, 03:36:23 AM
I was working in northern Virginia when I saw an add for some used equipment,including a Steinel SH4 mill in good working condition. There was no mention of the vertical head in the add, but it was there also. 

I called and talked to the gentleman and he made an offer I could not refuse.  I dropped off my rental Camry and picked up a rental truck to drive up to Maryland and then 1,600 miles back to Galveston. 

I left DC Friday morning with the rental truck and set off for Northern Maryland. The gentleman and I talked for a while about the work his shop did for a few decades and about the hit and miss engine he was rebuilding.  He offered to store the mill until I had more time to get it.  I didn't want to leave without the machine, so we started prepping it for the move. We used a tractor with a round hay bail spike and a strap to lift it in the truck.  I then used four 2 inch ratchet straps to tie it down in all directions. The drive back went well, even though it rained most of the trip.  When I got to Galveston, I had a boom truck lift the mill out of the truck.   

The mill is in excellent shape, except the bearings in the vertical head, which I will rebuild soon.  The original motor has been replaced with a single phase 220V motor and SCR speed control.  The lubrication pump is missing and so is the auto feed disconnect bar.  I can handle both of those later.  It also came with an air over hydraulic positioning setuo that he had previously used.  It is a metric machine, but I will add a DRO to help with that.

I have attached a photo if the mill, in case anyone is interested.

If anyone has a information about the mill, it will be greatly appreciated. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171227/760b0ed86d9aec15dc021182542cbe41.jpg)

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Title: Re: Steinel SH4 mill
Post by: 10KPete on December 27, 2017, 07:48:39 AM
That's exactly the right size little horizontal!!! Beautiful..
Lucky you  :whoohoo:

Pete
Title: Re: Steinel SH4 mill
Post by: pgp001 on December 27, 2017, 08:01:01 AM
There is a little bit of information here:-

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/deckel-maho-aciera-abene-mills/steinel-milling-machine-109252/

Phil
Title: Re: Steinel SH4 mill
Post by: Ridjobradi on December 27, 2017, 05:45:56 PM
Thank you for the link.  I had not seen that one.  Most of the complaints seem to be about the limited capacity of the machine.  I don't see the limited size of the machine as being a problem for my hobby shop use. 

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Title: Re: Steinel SH4 mill
Post by: Stradbash on May 10, 2019, 04:40:38 PM
The manuals are available here;

https://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/steinel-sh4-sv4-manuals-english-ive-got-em-both-300175/

They are scans of manuals I own.  Not terribly informative ( like most machine manuals) but it's what the company published!
Title: Re: Steinel SH4 mill
Post by: b.lindsey on May 10, 2019, 05:26:22 PM
Mark, welcome to the group and it great to see you jumping in. Please take the time and post an introduction in the Introduce Yourself section when you can so we can all welcome you and learn more of your internests.

Bill
Title: Re: Steinel SH4 mill
Post by: Mcgyver on May 19, 2019, 09:53:13 PM
Thats a good looking mill, well done!
Title: Re: Steinel SH4 mill
Post by: Florian Eberhard on May 21, 2019, 06:08:56 PM
Hi Ridjobradi

Thats a german milling machine - the steinel machines are pretty good and quite rigid.
The only downside of the steinels is that they usually have not a lot of space between the table and the spindle nose of the vertical spindle.
But with the right tools you can deal with that. (direct morse-taper or steep taper collets for the spindle, flat vices, stub drills and so on...)

You can also find some information here:
http://passion-usinages.forumgratuit.org/t2937-steinel-sh4-sv4d

It's in german though but in case you need to know something important, I could help you translate (since beeing from switzerland makes it easier with german ;) )

Have Fun with it!

Florian

Title: Re: Steinel SH4 mill
Post by: Art K on May 22, 2019, 01:53:30 AM
There's always google translate as well. Came in very handy for a German website build article on a single sleeve valve engine I came across a while back.
Art
Title: Re: Steinel SH4 mill
Post by: Florian Eberhard on May 22, 2019, 07:49:34 AM
Hey Art

Google translate is a very powerful tool although if you neet to type off everything, its sometimes easier to just ask someone who can read a certain Section of a Manual and then tell yo the important things.

However, the german manuals are more for additional Information here, in case there is something missing in the english ones.

Florian
Title: Re: Steinel SH4 mill
Post by: Ridjobradi on May 26, 2019, 04:00:59 PM
Florian - Thank you for the information. The mill is in good shape, except the vertical head, which I need to rebuild. It is also missing the mechanism that stops the auto travel. It's also missing the oil pump.

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Title: Re: Steinel SH4 mill
Post by: Art K on May 26, 2019, 10:54:55 PM
Florian,
Thankfully all I had to do was to copy & paste.
Art