Model Engine Maker
Engines => From Plans => Topic started by: Don1966 on January 29, 2015, 09:47:53 PM
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I guess I have been idle enough, so let's build another engine. But I have been busy with work by the way. Anyway I have had my eye on this engine since Jason B built his. You just give inspiration Jason watching your build.
I thought I would start out with some of the hard parts first. Like making the bevel gears that I did in another thread.
So we start by making the pulley wheel. The curved spokes is somewhat of a challenge and I first drew it up in cad using it to get my drilling measurements. I have never done a curved spoke wheel before.
This first photo is the pulley being cut to size and left extra inside the spoke area to be finished after the spokes are finished and you will see why.
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After centering the RT under the mill and turning a mandrel to mount the pulley we start drilling the .25" holes all the way around and then using my cad sheet to give my the degrees to the .125" hole all were drilled.
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After drilling the holes I decided to try something that I never do before. I mounted GHT,s small rotary table on the mill. The mounted the pulley loosely so I could turn it or slide it in the T slot. Then by swinging the table into an arc lined up the pulley by eye. Then proceeded to cut the first arc after placing it into to outer .125" hole for aligning the rest of the cuts. After each cut I loosen the pulley and rotated it till the next .125" hole and it fell into place.
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This is a far shot so you could see how it's mounted.
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Then it was back to the RT to clean up the inside radius. I probably could of done this on the rotary table but securing it was a small challenge.
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Then back to the lathe to clean up the material I left. If you look back at some of the photos you can see way I left a bit to cut later. We are also putting a 2 degree taper on the pulley crown.
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The pulley finished that is for now there is always more to do on it before the final engine is complete.
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Thanks for looking.
Don
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Nice job Don :cheers:
Steve
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That looks great Don, yet another inspiration :thinking:
Looking forward on further updates
Peter
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Nice to see you on a new build Don. Looking at that pulley, I already know it will be a beauty!!
Bill
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Very nice Don! That pulley turned out really well!
You make it look easy!
Kim
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Thanks Steve, Perry, Kim and Bill glad you guys are following along.
Nice to see you on a new build Don. Looking at that pulley, I already know it will be a beauty!!
Bill
Bill it's time to start after a small grace period. I plan to make this one all brass and stainless like the Benson. I just hope I can do as good on this one.
Don
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Hi Don
Its good to see you working on a new engine project; I can fully understand how the day job gets in the way of our progress.
You are off to a great start with the flywheel; it turned out real nice!
:cheers:
Dave
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Hi Don, good to see you at a new engine build. I will following along. Nice pulley with its curved spokes.
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Hi Don,
Very nice fly wheel.
Over in our previous stomping ground there was an article by a member IIRC Cedge. It covered the method for machining compound, (s shaped), spokes from solid in a flywheel.
Maybe Gail, tel, Steamer, Arnold and of course Marv for if memory serves me correctly he was a friend of the last mentioned, can help out.
Best Regards
Bob
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I'll be following this one Don. What scale have you gone for? Same as Anthony mount or a bit smaller, certainly does not look as big as mine.
J
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A great looking start to your next masterpiece :praise2: :praise2:
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Thanks Dave, ,Achim, Bob, Jason and Roger for looking in and following.
Bob it was Cedge that did the article I remember it when he built his water engine. One engine I had wanted to build.
Jason glad to have you following since it was your inspiration that got me into this one. I will be staying with Anthony's. Dimensions.
Don
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Well you old piroque paddler you ;). Don the parts look darn good :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp:. I'm starting to think you and Crueby have a huge stash of brass hiding somewhere :thinking:. I have my :popcorn: and :DrinkPint: and I am watching you bud.
Cletus
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Will be following along Don.
Vince
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HI Don
That Flywheel looks great. I will be following along for sure!
Pete
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Well you old piroque paddler you ;). Don the parts look darn good :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp:. I'm starting to think you and Crueby have a huge stash of brass hiding somewhere :thinking:. I have my :popcorn: and :DrinkPint: and I am watching you bud.
Cletus
Well, I know I have a stockpile built up - while buying for the Shay I've been buying extra as sales come along for the next project or six.
Don - flywheel looks great - gotta bookmark this one for future reference!
Watching along too.... :popcorn: :DrinkPint:
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Hi Don, Haven't been around much this last week so only just seen this new thread of yours and, after a search through the threads as well, finally found your post on the bevel gears. Early stages Don but, lovely work as usual - more 'Micro Magic' indeed :ThumbsUp: - and what a companion it will make for the Benson. What with my mate Chris doing them in half scale, your 'brass and steel' beauties and the tad larger versions from Jason and myself there's no lack of individualism on AM's designs that's for sure.
Looking forward to the coming progress
Regards - Ramon
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I'm watching you ;) lookin good nice job on the curv spoke!
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Eric, Vince, Cris, Pete, Ramon, and Doc guys I appreciate the interest and I hope I can live up to your expectations. Many thanks for following.
Don
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Don-
I just tuned in. The spokes are beautiful. If that is a precursor to what's coming, it will be stunning.
-Bob
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Thanks Bob glad to have you following along. Have you given up on you mini engines.
Don
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No, I haven't given up. Two of my kids swim competitively and now is their main season. Between practice and meets, it's very hard to get shop time. The little that I do get has been on side projects that take forever.
-Bob
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No, I haven't given up. Two of my kids swim competitively and now is their main season. Between practice and meets, it's very hard to get shop time. The little that I do get has been on side projects that take forever.
-Bob
I hear ya Bob! ::)
Dave
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Watching Don, should be good. Hugh.
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Great start Don :ThumbsUp:
Sounds like everyone's shop time is limited... Haven't even been into mine for more than a month :disappointed:
Kind regards, Arnold
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I had some free time today so I thought I would start with the base. This fabrication started with a piece of .5"x.75" bar stock and a .125 x 3" flat plate. I mitered the ends of the bar stock close to length and finish to diameter on the belt sander. After fitting them together for a test fit I cut a slot into them to fit the flat plate into. The flat plate was then milled the fit the opening.
The first photo I am showing cutting the miter joints.
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This second photo is test fitting the pieces to see if all is square.
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Trimming the edges on the bracket to fit the plate.
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Finishing up with the flat plate squaring of the edges.
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A look at the two piece together.
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The base assembled together and ready for silver brazing.
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Tomorrow if time permits I will clean the pieces and silver braze the base together.
Thanks for looking.
Don
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Looks great Don and that brass should solder together well, but with that much heat sink its going to take some serious heat too ;)
Bill
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Thanks Bill, my torch has an oxygen bottle so no sweat. Got all the brazing done and managed to finish the milling on the base. The silver soldering went well not a good as I would of liked but the results were great.
After the brazing I move to the mill to start fly cutting the top and sorry guys no photos as I can,t do both at the same time.
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Next after I established my datum we start to cut the holes.
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I had to make a cutter to be able to trim the edges so this is it.
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Now with the tool made I started trimming the edges. I am cutting .125 into the edges.
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Now I wouldn't be nice if I didn't show you the base after all that work. Keep in mind I still have plenty of sanding and cleaning to do before it's like I want. I do have one mishap and if you look at the rectangle you can see where the cutter was move to far. I will have to see if it's covered, if not I will try to add some silver solder to it.
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Thanks for looking and Monday I start a job out of town should be back in a couple of days.
Don
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Very nice Don. Happy the soldering went well too! The angle on the sides definitely gives it that "casting" appearance.
Bill
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Looking good Dog, don't forget the cracklings on your way home :mischief:
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Hi Don
Man that is some nice work; I was wondering what the extra material was for on the ends of the top plate now I see why.
So what is the draft angle of the sides on that base casting? ;)
Have a good trip,
Dave
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Hi Don, very nice. I have to learn this "making a cutter".
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Really nice looking Don! Great fabrication work on your base.
Kim
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Looking good Don, the over run won't be covered but a simpler fix may be to just widen the slot as there is nothing sitting on that side of the base.
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It looks like a one piece object from here. Great job. I think Jason is probably right, but I can see you silver soldering a piece the same size as the cutter in place, then redoing that corner. Another .001 off the top, no-one's the wiser.
Cheers, Hugh.
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Nice job on the tapered cutter base looks nice!
I'm still watching ;)
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Very nice work on the base Don. If the little notch is noticeable just take a piece of round stock and cut a disc from it to match the diameter of the cutter then just soft solder it in place. I hate having to silver solder a part after all the machining is done. (too much cleanup).
gbritnell
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Very nice, Don! :popcorn:
Simon
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Nice work Don :ThumbsUp:, done that a few times in my time though so swear by setting table stops to prevent it ;) - as everyone agrees though you have several options to disguising it.
Apart from that it's a nice clean up from a silver soldered build up - shades of what's to come I'll wager.
Regards - Ramon
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Thanks guys for your input and following along.
Looking good Don, the over run won't be covered but a simpler fix may be to just widen the slot as there is nothing sitting on that side of the base.
Thanks Jason and glad to have you watching me. I will put it aside for now and as the pieces start to come together I will see how this effects things.
Hi Don
Man that is some nice work; I was wondering what the extra material was for on the ends of the top plate now I see why.
So what is the draft angle of the sides on that base casting? ;)
Have a good trip,
Dave
Dave thanks for following, the angle is about 10 degrees.
Very nice work on the base Don. If the little notch is noticeable just take a piece of round stock and cut a disc from it to match the diameter of the cutter then just soft solder it in place. I hate having to silver solder a part after all the machining is done. (too much cleanup).
gbritnell
George thanks I will surely do it if it comes to that and glad to have you following.
Nice work Don :ThumbsUp:, done that a few times in my time though so swear by setting table stops to prevent it ;) - as everyone agrees though you have several options to disguising it.
Apart from that it's a nice clean up from a silver soldered build up - shades of what's to come I'll wager.
Regards - Ramon
Thanks Ramon my next tool makes will be stops for my mill. And yes there is plenty of soldering to come. Silver soldering use to scare me but once you get the feel of it, you know when hot is hot enough. I usually watch the paste when it looks wet it is hot enough.
thanks Don
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Its coming along ;)
Jo
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Hi Jo, a belated thanks. Today I started working on the engine foundation. I had already started yesterday and had the glue setting. I decided to use mahogany for the foundation. After cutting the sides and cutting the miters and gluing I routered the sides. In the process I managed to make the plinth and it's setting up in clamps glued together tonight. So we have a few photos for you.
Just a few shots of the foundation frame in clamps.
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Getting ready to trim the sides on the router.
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This is the pattern I selected.
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That's all for now and thanks for following along and looking.
Don
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Nice detail work on that Don. It should finish up beautifully and be a fitting base for this fine engine!!
Bill
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Hi Don, good to see your wood work and also the wood milling machine. I didn't know, that German wood milling machines from Bosch have found their way to LA also.
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Bill and Achim thanks for following.
Nice detail work on that Don. It should finish up beautifully and be a fitting base for this fine engine!!
Bill
Bill I don't think you can do much to mess up mahogany. It finishes very nice. By the way I been multitasking since I am in the brown stuff. I started making the plane shelf.
Hi Don, good to see your wood work and also the wood milling machine. I didn't now, that German wood milling machines from Bosch have found their way to LA also.
Achim I find Bosch to be a very excellent tool. My younger brother is the wood expert in the family. I try to get tips from him.
Ok some more progress on the brown stuff. I managed to complete the foundation and put a first coat of clear semi gloss polyurethane on it. Then finished the plinth to the point where I will start working on the crankshaft pillar bearings. I did a test run with some non sand white grout to see how fast it cures and how workable it is at different time stages. Then I am going to test how it takes stains.
This is the foundation with all the wood work done.
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The foundation after applying a coat of polyurethane.
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The plinth after mounting the base an marking out where the bearing block will rest. The final setup for the bearing block will be after making the first bearing block to mount to the base. Then I will do alignment to the outer bearing block.
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Testing the grout on a postal box. I may have to do more then one test to get it right. This will be my first attempt at this.
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That's all for today and thanks for looking.
Don
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The foundation is beautiful Don. Are you using clear urethane or a stain/urethane combination. Hard to imagine the mahogany darkening up that much with just clear, but its not a wood I have worked with much at all. Where will the grout be used?
Bill
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Hi Bill, and you are right mahogany is not that dark with clear urethane. The darkness comes from using walnut stain. The grout I plan to use on the plinth to make it look like stone or brick, haven't decided yet still testing it to see how it handles and adheres to the wood once dried.
Don
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Hi Don
WOW that Box came up great!
Pete
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Don, I find mixing in some wood glue helps the bond and also gives the dried layer a bit of flexibility. Is it tile grout you are using as I know you have a few different names for things out there, I tend to use drywall filler or spackle will also work and both are softer than tiled grou so easier to work.
J
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Pete thanks buddy for looking in.
Don, I find mixing in some wood glue helps the bond and also gives the dried layer a bit of flexibility. Is it tile grout you are using as I know you have a few different names for things out there, I tend to use drywall filler or spackle will also work and both are softer than tiled grou so easier to work.
J
Jason thanks for the tip and checking on me. The grout is tile grout and it works and gives ample time to manipulate it. I am trying it out with glue mixed in to see how that works. The grout do resemble drywall compound. I be trying dabbing a brush end on it to see if it looks more like cement blocks and it does. What would you suggest color wish to blend with the brass. I am thinking of leaving it white but maybe a highlight of dark brown stain brushed in spot.
Don
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I tend to paint mine with an off white acrylic paint which seals the paster. Then apply washes over the top of that to get a bit of colour variation and it also sits in the joints and makes them more visible. For the was I put a touch of oil paint into some turpentine.
Jo should hopefully be showing us her bricklaying and flag laying skills shortly :lolb:
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Hmmmmmm, part sparky, part termite, part machinist, got to be a coonass :lolb: :lolb:. The base looks sweet dog. Mahogany and I both look really good on a big boat :lolb: Granddaddy used to hand rub it with warm linseed oil. If you are using tile grout, you can get it in little milk carton looking containers, in a multitude of hues, at Lowe's or Home Depot. They also make cement tinting powders that blend pretty good with the grout. . Keep it swinging dog,
Cletus
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Hey Dog glad your looking in.
I tend to paint mine with an off white acrylic paint which seals the paster. Then apply washes over the top of that to get a bit of colour variation and it also sits in the joints and makes them more visible. For the was I put a touch of oil paint into some turpentine.
Jo should hopefully be showing us her bricklaying and flag laying skills shortly :lolb:
Thanks Jason,I tried some reefer White with a bit of black mixed with paint thinner for the wash. It gave it a grayish hue. Keep in mind this is free hand and a test run.
What do you think?
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Don
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Great looking bricks Don the grout looks about the right colour. :ThumbsUp:
When I was a kid in the UK I don't ever remember seeing bricks any colour other than a reddish brown with a smooth finish, not the plethora of colours and textures available today.
Best Regards
Bob
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OK, so know I have to add stone mason :lolb:. The brick work is great, mixed length, with nearly perfect vertical joints :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp:. I'm kinda with Bob though, I think a dark brick would fit the mahogany, do the contrasting with brass :stir:
E
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Well I think it looks good Don. The texture looks great...the color choice is ultimately up to you and what pleases your eye. I can see grayish looking good with the mahogany too though especially if you want it to look more stone like.
Bill
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Can't see a lot wrong with that :ThumbsUp:
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This whole build looks awesome to me! :ThumbsUp:
Dave
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Hi Don, l like your brick work fake. Something I have to learn also.
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Thanks guys for your inputs I really appreciate it. I don't expect you to hold any punches because I want to get this right. I tryed another color scheme today and did the mud work on the plinth. I am still uncertain as to what color scheme to stick to. I need to make the brass stand out and not have the plinth work distract from that.
This is my second attempt to get a color pattern I can use. White with a brown color mixed with wash.
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Muddling the plinth and it's like putting iceing on a cake.
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Then 30 minutes later I used a brush and dabbed the bristle end into the grout and to give the stone look.
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Marked out the brick pattern after two hours of curing time. Trimmed and brushed to finish.
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Thanks for looking.
Don
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That is really looking good Don. Is the material you are using floor tile grout?
You are giving me an idea to incorporate in my Corliss.
Vince
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Don, I like the second attempt, that will look great against the brass. I think it gives it age and character.
E
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Very nice!! :ThumbsUp:
Bill
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Thanks Vince, Eric and Bill for the encouragement and support. It means a lot to me.
That is really looking good Don. Is the material you are using floor tile grout?
You are giving me an idea to incorporate in my Corliss.
Vince
Vince it's wall tile grout and has no sand in it. Your Corliss is looking great bud.
Don, I like the second attempt, that will look great against the brass. I think it gives it age and character.
E
Thanks my brother, that's the advice I need to know.
Don
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Hi Don - just caught up with your progress - yep been asleep on the job again ;)
That brickwork has come out superb and looks very realistic :ThumbsUp: Now for the best bit - the painting ;)
Not wanting to teach granny here Don but if this is of any use - I use a similar water based wall crack filler for the bases of some (most) of my plastic models. I find painting base coats with acrylics allows washes of white spirit thinned oil paint to absorb into the filler without affecting the acrylic. It creates all sorts of interesting textures in the hollows and cracks. Once completely dry 'Dry Brushing' over the high points with a lighter colour will make everything pop out into relief. Hope that's of some use.
Keep up that good work
Regards - Ramon
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Hi Don - just caught up with your progress - yep been asleep on the job again ;)
That brickwork has come out superb and looks very realistic :ThumbsUp: Now for the best bit - the painting ;)
Not wanting to teach granny here Don but if this is of any use - I use a similar water based wall crack filler for the bases of some (most) of my plastic models. I find painting base coats with acrylics allows washes of white spirit thinned oil paint to absorb into the filler without affecting the acrylic. It creates all sorts of interesting textures in the hollows and cracks. Once completely dry 'Dry Brushing' over the high points with a lighter colour will make everything pop out into relief. Hope that's of some use.
Keep up that good work
Regards - Ramon
Ramon thanks my friend for the tips and that is what I did. Much appreciate you following along.
Today I did paint the Plinth and am quiet pleaed with the results. I used reefer white and brown to highlight the white after some wash with brown and thinner. The grout turned in ceramic and is very hard it even sounds like it when tapped. I also managed to partial make two of the bearing blocks.
This photo is a side shot and the photo makes it a little lighter then it actually is.
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Another shot of the plinth.
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Starting on the bearing block with corner shaffing cutter to round the crown.
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After drilling the required holes I used a .25 end mill to counter sink the bolt hole. After which I will round the crown of the bearing cap but will be later.
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A family photo of what we have to date. It funny what different lighting conditions do to a photo it looks darker in this one.
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That's all for today and thanks for looking.
Don
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That really looks the business Don, just another small point if I may. If the main colour is a 'mix' keep some safe to touch up later as any tiny knock will expose a bright white spot that lights up like a beacon - found that out the hard way ::).
Looking forward to more of your progress in coming days
Regards - Ramon
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The color is great Don...the bearing blocks ain't half bad either :)
Bill
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Wow Don I'm liking it Nice job!
That is so cool, I love that brick look!
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Nice stone work bud!
That is really going to add some nice detail to your engine.
Dave
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Thanks Ramon, Bill, Doc and Dave for your comments and following.
I didn't get a whole lot done today but every piece is a step forward. The bearing blocks are done except for the short one. I am not happy with it and will have to cut the bearing cap down some, it's to high. I made the shaft and crank disc also.
A photo of working on the bearing cap slitting it off. Sorry the photo is kind of dark.
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Putting a radius on the bearing block base.
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And a shot of the bearing blocks and shaft with disc.
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Last is a family shot, the foundation has four coats of polyurethane.
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That's all for today and thanks for looking.
Don
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Those blocks look great Don as does the base. Its been so damp around here lately, I finally took base to work and am using one of the lab fume hoods to add a few additional coats of urethane which won't take 48 hours to dry like it did in the garage.
Your are making good steady progress on this build...fun to watch.
Bill
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Thanks Bill and yea I can relate to the weather. It”s getting ready to hit us tomorrow and has been raining on and off. I keep my heater on in the shop to give it some ample time to cure. Works great but I may add another coat before it's over. Tommorrow and Friday will be busy days for me so maybe Thursday I can get some more time in.
Don
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Don everything looks GREAT!! And you are taking some nice pics I just cant get the hang of that at all.
With that base it is looking awesome! I may have to try that in the future some time. :ThumbsUp:
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Hi Don, very nice work on the base. A very intersting way to do the stone work.
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:headscratch: Don why did you decide to make the tops of the bearing blocks curved? The A Mount drawings and the photos of the original engine shows flat tops.
Jo
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The faux stone work looks awesome. It's going to be a sweet looking engine when it's done. Your finished engines are always eyecandy.
-Bob
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That base has come out well Don, a very nice colour in that wood :ThumbsUp:
Is that a small fly cutter you're using to put that half round on the bearing bases - nice finish on them too BTW, they look good
Looking forwards to your next update - Ramon
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Hey, Don, this build slipped in beneath my radar. Fabulous work! Your skill with fabrication is enviable.
Chuck
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Thank you all for commenting and following I really appreciate it.
:headscratch: Don why did you decide to make the tops of the bearing blocks curved? The A Mount drawings and the photos of the original engine shows flat tops.
Jo
Jo I don't intend on following the design to the letter, after all I am using all brass and stainless. I intend to touch up where ever possible. I want this engine to stand out. Thanks for looking in.
That base has come out well Don, a very nice colour in that wood :ThumbsUp:
Is that a small fly cutter you're using to put that half round on the bearing bases - nice finish on them too BTW, they look good
Looking forwards to your next update - Ramon
Ramon, thanks my friend for you kind comments. The mill cutter you see is a corner rounding cutter.
Hey, Don, this build slipped in beneath my radar. Fabulous work! Your skill with fabrication is enviable.
Chuck
Chuck many thanks my friend, but you are one of my Heroes and I am just a beginner.
Well finally getting around to making the remaining pillar block bearings. These little things take some time. I still have a lot to do on then yet before they are exceptable.
Ok we start today with finishing the rounding od the small bearing block that I wasn't happy with. Using GHT's small rotary table inserted in my vise jaws we completed the bearing.
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The smaller bearing block had to be fabricated a little different, so installed a piece of rectangle stock in the four haw and trued it to center. Then cut the top part of the bearing while leaving a small curve in the corners.
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By setting up my datum to the edge of the vise and using the back as the reference we can drill all the bearing blocks bores to the same height and center.
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After drilling all the holes needed the bearing block was trimmed on each side to the required thickness.
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Now we have four bearing blocks ready to be slit.
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Slitting all the bearing blocks to there required height.
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Now that the slitting is done I started making the bearings and parting off.
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Still have plenty of sanding to do on these only one has been processed. I need to make a radius cutter small enough to trim the corners like the large blocks. A family shot.
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Now a family shot of what we have made thus far.
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That,s all for now and thanks all for looking and commenting. Tomorrow I work out of town so it may be next week before more progress.
Don
Don
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Very nice Don!! Now the engine as well as the base are all coming together, and beautifully too!!
Bill
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Wow, Don the bearing blocks sure do look nice!
Please tell me that you are not planning on using those nuts :lolb:
Dave
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Don, those bearing blocks are great. Turned with a round nosed tool, then brought to size on the faces with a ball nosed endmill? Hugh.
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Don
Chuck and I must be on the same wavelength. I totally missed this build. Wow! Everything from the brass work to the brickwork is first rate. I'm now onboard. Keep it coming.
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Why, shame on you Stan, I been watching this one like Grandma's pot of gumbo. Let me just tell you, this coonass is good. The old boy can make a piece of brass shine good enough for a 3 day pass any time :lolb: :lolb:(and do all kind of electronic stuff to it too )?. I'm watching Don, I'll try to keep the rest of them herded up :lolb:
Cletus
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Bill, Dave, Hugh, Stan and Eric thanks guys.
Please tell me that you are not planning on using those nuts :lolb:
Dave
Dave actually no I have them on temperarily. I plan on making acorn nuts for them.
Don
Chuck and I must be on the same wavelength. I totally missed this build. Wow! Everything from the brass work to the brickwork is first rate. I'm now onboard. Keep it coming.
Stan glad to have you on board buddy. I have been watching your built. So are we going to have it finish for Cabin Fever?
Why, shame on you Stan, I been watching this one like Grandma's pot of gumbo. Let me just tell you, this coonass is good. The old boy can make a piece of brass shine good enough for a 3 day pass any time :lolb: :lolb:(and do all kind of electronic stuff to it too )?. I'm watching Don, I'll try to keep the rest of them herded up :lolb:
Cletus
You go dog, keep um straight. Glad you got my back my brother.
Don
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Great build Don!
Dave
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Don
I'm trying to get it done for CF. First I/C so more to think about than "air goes in this hole and pushes this to make this go around." Everyone says if you have fuel, air and a spark, it'll run.
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Don Those pictures are down right pretty you have done some amazing work there still watching and am still amazed! :praise2:
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Thanks Dave and Doc for checking in.
I started making the eccentric strap and it was not a good day. The first strap I broke a tap in it. So it's soaking in some Alum and water hoping to devolve the tap.
I started with two pieces of material which I soft soldered together.
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I mounted it to the lathe in the four jaw Chuck and using my backstop to support for clamping it true.
You can see the back stop through the Chuck.
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Set it up on the mill mounted in the rotary table to cut the outside of the eccentric.
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Using the vise and lining the eccentric up to the solder line I drilled the holes needed.
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A shot of the finished eccentric strap. There is still more to do on it yet. The first one is sitting in the Alum for now.
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That's all for today and thanks for looking.
Don
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Well its a fine looking strap Don. Sorry about the tap though...don't ya just hate when that happens!!
Bill
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Bummer about the tap I've been pretty lucky with the small taps (Knock on wood) I was going to try the Alum thing but have had to yet (and that's quite alright ;) ) Hopefully it will work for you. What percentage threads do you go for I usually go for about 60% or less. Your eccentric is looking good! :ThumbsUp:
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Hi Don, if the alum is not the successful solution, I have heard from my colleges that accumulator acid should be the right choice for the combination of brass and steel. Until now, I have not tried it by myself, so also no idea what will happen with the soft soldering in the acid.
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Somehow I've not been on track with watching your build Don, but back on board now. She's looking real nice
Steve
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Still following along and enjoying :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp: :wine1:
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Bill, Doc, Achim, Steve and Roger thank for following.
Somehow I've not been on track with watching your build Don, but back on board now. She's looking real nice
Steve
Steve glad to have you following along buddy. I know you have you hands full with your project.
Well I have been working out of town so I can't report on the Alum dip yet. I Don't leave it unattended. But now I have another eccentric strap in the dip. Today I made one of the eccentric rods and realized I hadn't drilled the holes that attached the Rod to it. Well in the process of drill it the bit broke in the last hole so in the dip it goes. I don't have much to show you in way of photos except the eccentric Rod.
The rod was cut to aone degree taper and I need to make a ball end. So using GHT'S Spherical turning tool we cut the .250" ball on the end of the eccentric Rod.
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The ball completed.
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A look at the eccentric Rod and I am not to happy with it. I my remake it when I get time.
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That's all for now and thanks all for your comment and following along.
Don
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Had some time in the shop today and as I wasn't happy the the eccentric Rod I had made I made two today. I also managed to make one of the eccentrics. All that's left to do is cut the other off the parent stock and finish the face.
Ok I did another approach to the eccentric straps since I had never made any this way I gave it a try. I left some of the parent stock on each end to be able to cut the flats on both ends. This is what we have.
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After cutting the flats on both sides I get my center and drill the round end hole. I used 123 blocks and parallels to shim the other end and secure it.
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Then clamped the eccentric end in the vise and after getting my center drilled the securing holes.
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For the rest of my time I managed to get one eccentric made and partially clamped together. I still have one eccentric strap soaking.
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Well that' small I managed to do and thanks for looking.
Don
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Those look good to me Don. How is the alum working out for you? Was this one of the eccentric straps you saved?
Bill
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Well, we ain't happy if Don ain't happy, although I would have probably been happy with the first one. :lolb:. I remember Marv saying that you shouldn't cut a part from it's parent stock until there was just nothing left that could be done to it and after you did, there probably wasn't much else that needed doing. Anyhoo, they look great. I'm kinda in shock though, I think this is the first time you've ever shown us a piece of brass that wasn't shining like new money :stir: :stickpoke: :Jester:
Keep it swinging Dog,
E
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I like it Don; always good to see the ball turner coming out.
Steve
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Another nice part Don - they always come out better the second time ;)
That ball turner makes for a useful tool - always intended to make one but always ended up taking the quick way and cobble a form tool up - ah maybe one day ::)
Hope you manage to get that tap out.
Keep it coming
Regards -Ramon
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Bill, Eric, Steve and Ramon thanks for looking in and commenting.
I managed to get a little done today and remade the eccentric I made yesterday and finished the other. Started making the pivot arms and got one in it's rough state.
Those look good to me Don. How is the alum working out for you? Was this one of the eccentric straps you saved?
Bill
Bill so far the Alum has not done it's thing. I thought the strap I showed in the photo had finished until I went to drill it again and found there still was a piece left in it. So back to soaking it went. I increased the dosage and heated the water today but I Have this feeling I will be remaking both of them.
Well, we ain't happy if Don ain't happy, although I would have probably been happy with the first one. :lolb:. I remember Marv saying that you shouldn't cut a part from it's parent stock until there was just nothing left that could be done to it and after you did, there probably wasn't much else that needed doing. Anyhoo, they look great. I'm kinda in shock though, I think this is the first time you've ever shown us a piece of brass that wasn't shining like new money :stir: :stickpoke: :Jester:
Keep it swinging Dog,
E
Dog I just didn't get a chance to shine her up yet. But I did do the eccentrics and eccentric rods today.
I like it Don; always good to see the ball turner coming out.
Steve
Steve the ball turner is a joy to used and so simple to set up.
Another nice part Don - they always come out better the second time ;)
That ball turner makes for a useful tool - always intended to make one but always ended up taking the quick way and cobble a form tool up - ah maybe one day ::)
Hope you manage to get that tap out.
Keep it coming
Regards -Ramon
Ramon my friend the way things are going I probably be making quiet a few the second time around. Looks like the eccentric straps will be next. This engine deserves the best I can give it. I just hope I don't waste to much brass, the stainless I can live with.
The ball turner like I told Steve is a pleasure to use and very quick to set up and use.
Ok just a few photo for you today and I make the shaft that holds the linkage and one link.
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A photo of the eccentrics and eccentric rods and the shaft.
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A family shot of what we have thus far.
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That's all for today and thanks for looking.
Don
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Wow that's looking awesome Don!
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Oh yeah, I love the family shots brother!! All the little parts are starting to add up and looking good!!
Bill
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Bill and Doc thanks for looking.
Today I didn,t have much time so I finished the rocker I had started yesterday. I thought some might be interested in how I go about cleaning and finishing my parts. So I have a few photos for you.
This first photo is my setup and you can see all the material and tools I use to do it with. The mat is from Micro mark and is a slick surface the bottom non skid. I use the mat to keep my area clean as I don't want grit to accumulate because if I am doing brass it will scratch the already polished surface. I also keep my sand paper clean continuously to keep grit out of it as it will also scratch the brass finish. The sanding ads are from Rockler and you can see the chart of different grits it comes in. These pads are made of some kind of rubber as is the sanding wand and sticks. I have an assortment of clamps to hold small parts as well as a vise with swivel base and plastic, aluimunin, and brass jaws. It takes a lot of work to get the shine I want on my parts. Any scratch shows up like a sore thumb when you polish it. Using the wands I can get all the scratches I see. As you can see I have a viser and magnifier to check them with. Some times it takes hours on just one piece like the rocker arm to get it as you will see. Ok first photo.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg3_zpsud4lyzqz.jpg)
This is the rocker being work on to get it just right,
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The finished rocker arm.
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Thanks for looking and I hope some of you enjoyed the presentation on my finishing.
Don
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I like that magnifier. May I ask where you got it from? I like that little hand vise that you have the rocker arm in. I'm going to build one A.S.A.P.
-Bob
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I like that magnifier. May I ask where you got it from? I like that little hand vise that you have the rocker arm in. I'm going to build one A.S.A.P.
-Bob
Hi Bob, I got the magnifier from Rockler at about $6 . The brass vise I'd from Micro Mark
Don
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That's a really great start you've made there Don - another jewel for the collection in the making :ThumbsUp:
Re the finishing - have you come across the 'Garryflex' (or similar) abrasive blocks? In case you are not aware these are a type of rubber based block impregnated throughout with abrasive grains. They come in four grits from Coarse to Extra Fine and are superb for finishing - before polishing that is. Brilliant on brass and ali with a drop of lube such as paraffin they do a good job on steel too. Another good thing about them is being homogeneous small pieces can be sliced off to make shaped sections that allow getting into all sorts of awkward corners. If you haven't tried them I can highly recommend them
Keep up the good work - looking forwards to the next update
Regards - Ramon
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That's a nice assortment of finishing tools and aids Don. Now if I just had the space to store all that stuff I would be set. The rocker arm looks great BTW.
Bill
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Don
Wonderful strap there. Sometimes you have to do a "family shot" to realize that you're making progress.
The collection is looking very nice.
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Don
Thanks for the showing of your polishing station.. I really need to get more organized in that department.
This is going to be a beautiful engine when you're done :NotWorthy:
Cheers, Joe
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Thank you for showing your finishing/polishing station :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp: I have a lot of that work ahead of me ::)
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Ramon, Bill, Stan, Joe, and Roger thanks for looking in.
I am glad some of you find my setup for finishing of use. I am not by far any professional at this but this is what works for me. No shown is the last tool used and that's the Buffer.
Today I managed to complete the rockers and after taking photo's of them I droped one and the gremlin got it. I can,t find it any where. Then I started looking for one of the shafts and I some how misplaced it and can't seem to find it either. Not a good day because I am frustrated. I hope my next venture is a little better.
That's a really great start you've made there Don - another jewel for the collection in the making :ThumbsUp:
Re the finishing - have you come across the 'Garryflex' (or similar) abrasive blocks? In case you are not aware these are a type of rubber based block impregnated throughout with abrasive grains. They come in four grits from Coarse to Extra Fine and are superb for finishing - before polishing that is. Brilliant on brass and ali with a drop of lube such as paraffin they do a good job on steel too. Another good thing about them is being homogeneous small pieces can be sliced off to make shaped sections that allow getting into all sorts of awkward corners. If you haven't tried them I can highly recommend them
Keep up the good work - looking forwards to the next update
Regards - Ramon
Ramon thank you my friend for the tip I ordered some today.
Ok we do have some photo's for you of the last rockers being made. I am using GHT's small rotary table and I have to tell you, if you don't have something similar you need to get one. This table fits into my vise and locating center is just a matter of inserting a spot drill in the table hole and it's lined up. Then clamp the part to it an get with it. The small rocker I just cut it from the parent stock while on the table.
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Then as I cut it through to the bottom it just falls off. This is what we have to clean up and it cleans up quick.
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So after some clean up and buffing this is what we end up with.
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That's it for today and thanks for looking.
Don
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Sorry about the gremlin incident Don. About the time you make another one you will find the little buggers :)
Those finished links look outstanding too!!
Bill
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Hi Don
Thanks for showing your polishing station; lots of food for thougt. My work mostly consists of fettling castings and trying to make machined parts look like castings. I notice you also use the sanding sticks that use the small belt. I have a set of 4 (120, 240, 320, and 400 grit) and love them. Lots of times they are just what is needed to get the job done. they will do things that you just can't do with a file. I have also collected a nice selection of small files and rifflers; I would like to come up with a good way to store them and also have them ready for use. now they are all in a bunch in the drawer and I grab the whole pile and take them to the bench when needed.
I have a heavy rubber mat that that I use as a work surface; once and a while it gets washed but as I indicated most of the time I'm not working towards that mirror finish.
Your engine parts are looking great!
Dave
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And where did you get the nice wood file handles with the collet gizmo for holding your small files?
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Sorry about the gremlin incident Don. About the time you make another one you will find the little buggers :)
Those finished links look outstanding too!!
Bill
Bill I am afraid finding them will not happen. I cased the place real good and no luck, so remake is in order both rocket and shaft. I will have to remake the two eccentric staps also as the alum has not worked. Thank my friend for following along.
And where did you get the nice wood file handles with the collet gizmo for holding your small files?
Hi Dave thanks for following along bud. I keep my wands and stick in a plastic box and the pads in klein zipper bags. I will attach a photo for you. I buy most of my stuff from Micro Mark you can get the handles here http://www.micromark.com/handle-for-1and8-inch-shank-needle-files,8149.html
The sanding wands here http://www.micromark.com/micro-sanding-wand-set,7760.html
The sanding sticks here http://www.amazon.com/Micro-Mesh-Colored-Sanding-Sticks/dp/B003ELIO0A/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1426280741&sr=8-5&keywords=sanding+sticks
The sanding pads here http://www.amazon.com/Micro-Mesh-Soft-Touch-Pads/dp/B003ELH7AI/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1426281026&sr=8-4&keywords=sanding+pad
Here is how I keep them organized.
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No progress today I had a job out of town today.
Don
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Those parts look great, the rockers really take my fancy. I realise that there is a lot of work getting those bits looking as they do.
Cheers, Hugh.
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Thanks for the info Don,
Micromark had a free shipping deal within the last couple of weeks and I stocked up on the sanding belts. Their prices are high enough I need have some sort of incentive to order anything from them. I will add the sanding wands and file handles to my which list.
I looked at the sanding wand link from Amazon and it doesn't say what you get for $21.95? is it the nine pieces in the picture?
Dave
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I looked at the sanding wand link from Amazon and it doesn't say what you get for $21.95? is it the nine pieces in the picture?
Dave
Dave glad to help and nine is correct, that's one for each grit size and if you look at the color chart there are nine colors. Pity they don't sell each separate.
Don
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Don, one more question on the sanding sticks. Quoting from the Amazon site under product description is the following:
"Troubled with polishing those hard to reach areas, or smaller turnings? Not any longer, Micro-Mesh has solved that problem with the Sanding Sticks. The smaller size will now allow you to polish those smaller and more detailed areas. These 1/2†x 5- 3/4†foam backed sticks are coated with an abrasive crystal that will last up to 15 times longer than normal abrasives. Kit includes one each of 1500, 1800, 2400, 3200, 3600, 4000, 6000, 8000, and 12,000 grit sticks."
Is there a decimal point off in those grit numbers or are they really that fine...they seem extremely high to me. Just curious.
Bill
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Don, one more question on the sanding sticks. Quoting from the Amazon site under product description is the following:
"Troubled with polishing those hard to reach areas, or smaller turnings? Not any longer, Micro-Mesh has solved that problem with the Sanding Sticks. The smaller size will now allow you to polish those smaller and more detailed areas. These 1/2†x 5- 3/4†foam backed sticks are coated with an abrasive crystal that will last up to 15 times longer than normal abrasives. Kit includes one each of 1500, 1800, 2400, 3200, 3600, 4000, 6000, 8000, and 12,000 grit sticks."
Is there a decimal point off in those grit numbers or are they really that fine...they seem extremely high to me. Just curious.
Bill
Bill those are correct numbers and go that fine to give you a nice polish finish in those had to reach spots. They are washable for reuse. Also good to work on scratches in your finish. Like I told Dave it's a pity they don't sell them like 9 of one grit size. At least I haven't come across that yet.
Don
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Hi Don, thanks for showing it. Something to investigate in near future. Seems to work really good as seen at your parts with mirror effect.
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The same sanding stick kit is also sold by Woodcraft for about US$ 12.
For individual Micro-Mesh products go to the Micro-Mesh webpage:
https://micro-surface.com/index.php
I find it hard to navigate to find what you want but they have a lot of items. They sell individual item by grit as well as assortment kits.
Their tapered dual angle sticks are similar and in individual grits are US$ 0.85 each when buying individual grits.
http://micro-surface.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=272_2_46_51_52&products_id=127
http://micro-surface.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=273_274&products_id=128
I have never ordered direct from them so can't speak of how their service is.
Gail in NM
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Thanks guys for the information and the additional links to micro-surface Gail. Since you guys have used these do you feel that the dual tapered version is just as practical as the straight version shown by micro-mark?
Bill
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Bill I have used both and I perfer the taper sticks. Gail thanks for the link I guess I haven't been googling it right because I have been trying to get them in the same grits Size for a while now. I just ordered some in the grits I want.
Don
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Thanks Don. I may be ordering a few as well just to have on hand. You guys keep setting the bar higher and higher with your finishing techniques and I need to work on mine I know!!
Bill
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Excellent info here. Finishing is (seems to me at least) an art in itself. It's good to get more information and experience of others.
I find finishing to be one of those last steps where you can really experience an 'oh crap'. ;D
Not just in machining. Anything. I'm currently playing with a model boat. Finishing seems to be everything.
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Zee thanks for checking in buddy and hope to see you at CF.
It has been a while since I posted last and how time flies. Well the reason for the delay is spring is here and I am sure all of you know what that means. Yea leaves to pick up, grass to cut, pressure washing to be done and flower beds to prep and plant. Not my flowers mind you but the wife's.
Anyway got another start today not much to show for it but a few photos for you.
I had to make a jig to be able to build the rocker frame. I started by welding some pieces to a plate as in this photo.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zps6w6l0tcv.jpg)
Clamped it in the mill vise to true up the blocks and cut the slots to fix the frame to.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg2_zpsabni2cwc.jpg)
After making all the bearing blocks and cutting lengths of round brass Rod we have the rocker almost ready for soldering. I bent the curves around a piece of 1.25" Rod and cut an arc out of it. Then filed the edges with a rat tail file to form the end to the rods. This photo is not to great but you can see I still have one cross Rod to form and we are ready to solder.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zpswsahe97q.jpg)
That's all I managed to get done and hopefully tomorrow I can solder it and complete it.
Thanks for looking.
Don
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Progress is still progress Don and that looks good. Looking forward to seeing it finished too...will you be soft soldering it?
Bill
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Nice looking fixture Don.
Dave
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Hi Don, I like the fixture. My yearly gardening has to be started this weekend. No further delay will be accepted.
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Looking good Don, can't quite see from the photo but I assume you have oval tube, did you manage to find some off the self in brass or did you start with round?
J
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Thanks Bill, Dave, Achim and Jason for checking in on me.
Looking good Don, can't quite see from the photo but I assume you have oval tube, did you manage to find some off the self in brass or did you start with round?
J
Jason no I didn't find any oval tube I just settle for the round.
Don
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Well I finished the rocker bracket today silver solder and clean up. I made a start on the pivot pins and managed to complete the bottom pins and a start on the top pins.
Some photos for you and the rocker bracket after silver soldering and pickled.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zpskgorq0sd.jpg)
After some cleaning, sanding and buffing we have a completed rocker bracket.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg2_zpscb1qn0qy.jpg)
This is the top pivot pin that I started and haven't completed yet.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg3_zpsgv80ohtk.jpg)
And a family shot of what we have so far. By the way the eccentric straps will all have to be remade the alum didn't work.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg4_zpsmlpmqsff.jpg)
That's all for now and thanks for the support and checking in.
Don
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That cleaned up real nice Don! Well done indeed!!
Bill
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Beautiful Don!
The family shot is just great; I like the fancy box for your wrenches too!
Dave
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The rocker bracket came out really nice Don. All your stuff always looks like jewelry.
-Bob
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That's beautiful Don!
You always get such a gorgeous finish on your parts!
Too bad about the eccentric strap. Just today I broke a 4-40 tap. Luckily, I was able to get it out with vice grips this time. Sorry your having to take the harder road. :(
Kim
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the rocker bracket looks absolutely stunning. you certainly set the standard high.
regarding the broken tap, whenever I've had to dissolve one using alum , I've never been able to get the solution to work cold.
I only seem to get it to work when the solutions is gently simmering.
it is a slow process, but it does work. If you have to watch the pan it might be quicker to actually remake the part!
as I have no pets or kids running around, I set up my camping stove in a corner of the backyard then get on with something more interesting instead.
never been able to find out how strong a mixture you make , so when it's slowly simmering , i just keep adding alum until no more seems to dissolve. you should see a fast stream of bubbles coming from the hole with the broken tap.
if the bubble stream looks weak, add more alum - no more bubbles and the part should have dissolved.
as i said , It is a slow process, but it does work.
whether you remake or retry dissolving, good luck either way
regards
peter
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Bill, Dave, Bob, Kim and Peter much appreciated guys for following along.
Beautiful Don!
The family shot is just great; I like the fancy box for your wrenches too!
Dave
Dave I have had that set for more then 25 years. I had bought them when I was doing instrument repairs and they have served my well. I have attached photos for you. There are two trays inside the box and as you can see through the years two are missing.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zpsmigivqva.jpg)
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg2_zpsgob9ljgj.jpg)
the rocker bracket looks absolutely stunning. you certainly set the standard high.
regarding the broken tap, whenever I've had to dissolve one using alum , I've never been able to get the solution to work cold.
I only seem to get it to work when the solutions is gently simmering.
it is a slow process, but it does work. If you have to watch the pan it might be quicker to actually remake the part!
as I have no pets or kids running around, I set up my camping stove in a corner of the backyard then get on with something more interesting instead.
never been able to find out how strong a mixture you make , so when it's slowly simmering , i just keep adding alum until no more seems to dissolve. you should see a fast stream of bubbles coming from the hole with the broken tap.
if the bubble stream looks weak, add more alum - no more bubbles and the part should have dissolved.
as i said , It is a slow process, but it does work.
whether you remake or retry dissolving, good luck either way
regards
peter
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Peter much appreciate the info. They have been soaking for more then two weeks and the tap is just black. I will try putting it in a pan and heating to see if it helps.
Well all I have for you guys today is one photo of the pivot pins that I have completed. There are still more but my stock of stainless had to be reordered so next week I can complete them. I wish all of you a Happy Easter and a healthy weekend. I know I will enjoy it we are eating boil crawfish yum yum. :P
As you can see in the photo the rocker bracket pivot pin is completed and a few more to go into the beam.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zpsdx7ag9mp.jpg)
Thanks for looking.
Don
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Thanks Don
That is a nice set; those guys are still in business, you could probably order the missing pieces.
Dave
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Indeed Don...Moody makes some nice stuff. Might be worth checking for the availability of replacements since you already have that nice box and all :)
Bill
Oh the engine is still looking mighty fine too !!
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Indeed Don...Moody makes some nice stuff. Might be worth checking for the availability of replacements since you already have that nice box and all :)
Bill
Oh the engine is still looking mighty fine too !!
I did check to see if they still make the set and the price hasn't changed much in 20 years. I payed $100 for the set back then and I have attached a photo of the price I found. And they do have replacements.
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I had looked also Don last night after I posted the above and was glad to see the set is still available. Wanted to ask though since you have experience with the set...are the open end wrenches fairly tight on tolerance? I have a cheap set from years ago (probably from Micro-Mark or similar and the open end wrenches are so generous in their spans as to be almost unusable. I feel sure the Moody's must be better, even though for most things I use nut drivers. Sometimes there just isn't room for a nut driver though and an open end must be used.
Bill
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Bill I never had problems with the wrenches. Although the nut now are made in China and there tolerance are not that great. This set has been very useful and they do provide additional pieces if you break one. You can see the spares at the bottom of the tools.
Don
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I wish these guys would come to the shows. I'm betting they could more than make expenses just with us hobbyists getting a good look and fell for their wares. I would come home with a set or two of their blue handle ones for sure.
Bill
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Yo Dog, I've got the :popcorn: and :DrinkPint: and following along, you starting to make this look too easy :ThumbsUp:. Bill, I bought the Moody wrenches and nut drivers awhile back, mine came in a plastic bag type case. My gripe with the wrenches are that they are too beefed up around the outside, ain't like it's a 9/16th or 3/4", just makes them harder to turn the nut a lot of times. I found an old set of Craftsmen micro wrenches in Grandaddys tools that are more of a traditional combination wrench, the box ends work super.
Cletus
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Ok getting back on track today I managed to finish the pivot pins for the main beam. I also got a go start on the beam. I layed out, drilled and started cutting the circle and arcs with a ball nose cutter.
The first photo I am completing the pivot pins.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zpsokodkhdc.jpg)
Then I started laying out the beam on some .1875 x 1.25" brass plate. I had thought of using stainless for the beam but we will see what the brass does.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg2_zpsylmowo6r.jpg)
Next laying bothe beam plates together I drilled the hole to .1875 except two which I left .125. The reason for this was for setting it up on the rotary table.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg3_zpsisixqhno.jpg)
Cutting the circles and arcs on the rotary table.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg4_zpsbsbd5qsq.jpg)
That,s all I managed today so maybe tomorrow I can see how the beam comes out. So wish me luck because I am going to need it and thanks for looking.
Don
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Looking good so far Don. Lots of work in that beam for sure! Looking forward to seeing you this weekend my friend.
Bill
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Thanks Bill.
Today I had a good start on the beam parts. I had to start at the beginning with them as the first two were not up to par. I really had to approach it different to get the beams to come out without to much set ups and make more mistakes. The GHT rotary table is a dream to use and a work horse for doing this kind of work. I never had a need for it till this type of work came along.
Ok this first photo is the throw always and looking at them you can see why.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zpsrqiesmz7.jpg)
A photo of how I approached the second round. I started the first hole and continued to cut outward close to the second hole. Then moved to the next hole doing the same and continue to the last hole.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg2_zps7oqr1uaz.jpg)
Then I clamped them together to mill the angles.
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Then we have the beams in there rough state ready for clean up.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg4_zpsnrdobdql.jpg)
That,s all for today and thanks for looking.
Don
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Outstanding Don, and I know a lot of set-ups as well for those. I know you had to center on each hole but they turned out beautiful. And I can already imagine them with your excellent polishing skills applied too :)
Bill
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:ThumbsUp:
Lookin good Don!
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Nice work Don!
Lots of keeping track of of your handle turning there!
Dave
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Round two came out sweet Don. Nice job.
-Bob
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Looking good :ThumbsUp: On the other hand, even bad parts look good in brass.....
Joe
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Nice going there Don! That's some nice looking beam there! :)
Kim
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A pleasure to see how you did that Don. Did you go for the sandwich method because of materials at hand? Hugh.
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Parts like that make me glad to have a cnc mill.
Great work with the rotab!
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Just catching up with your build again. :ThumbsUp: Some very neat work, as ever :praise2: :praise2:
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Hi Don, glad to see you back at it. Perfect work using the conventional way by using a RT. Respect.
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Hi Don, just finished going through your entire build thread, very nice work I am curious about your rotary table, it looks like the table is turned with a bar and not geared, is that the case?
I will continue to follow along, and am learning a great deal.
Mike
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Thanks guys for checking in on me. I have been distracted from my project and plan to get back on it this coming week. I have been trying to shine up what I have before it gets to overwhelming.
A pleasure to see how you did that Don. Did you go for the sandwich method because of materials at hand? Hugh.
Hugh I am not sure what you mean, but the beams are in two parts to start with.
Hi Don, just finished going through your entire build thread, very nice work I am curious about your rotary table, it looks like the table is turned with a bar and not geared, is that the case?
I will continue to follow along, and am learning a great deal.
Mike
Hi Mike glad you looked in since you have your on going project. The RT does have a handle and it also has stops but not geared. I made it from George Thomas's plans.
Don
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Hey Don-
Distracted? I don't understand. What does that word even mean?
-Bob
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Don, not to digress...but I ordered a few sets of the dual tapered sanding pads from the micro-surface link and they arrived yesterday. Looking forward to giving them a try. Thanks again for the info on these, and to Gail as well.
Bill
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The RT does have a handle and it also has stops but not geared
Hi Don, thanks for the info, it must be a little tricky to use because you would always have to be thinking about the cutter wanting to climb into the work on the curves so scoop cutting would be essential on the curved cut I would think. I shall have to find the plans and have a look at the design, I would like a small rotary table my big one is a bear to move it weighs over 80 lbs.
Mike
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Well no progress on the engine guys and it seem life and work has been taking my time as of late. Hopefully in the coming weeks I can get back to the grind.
Don
Don, not to digress...but I ordered a few sets of the dual tapered sanding pads from the micro-surface link and they arrived yesterday. Looking forward to giving them a try. Thanks again for the info on these, and to Gail as well.
Bill
Bill your quiet welcome and you will find that they help quiet a lot.
The RT does have a handle and it also has stops but not geared
Hi Don, thanks for the info, it must be a little tricky to use because you would always have to be thinking about the cutter wanting to climb into the work on the curves so scoop cutting would be essential on the curved cut I would think. I shall have to find the plans and have a look at the design, I would like a small rotary table my big one is a bear to move it weighs over 80 lbs.
Mike
Hi Mike, no I don't find it creates any problem at all. The table handles itself very well. The handle helps to control the movement and with the addition of the stops you have good control. That is once you get use to using it.
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I have some progress to report today. I am not going to try to explain the long pause between built other then life has way of getting in the way. So we will move forward from here and see if we can get more done on this wonderful engine.
I 've been spending quiet a few hours every day trying to get the shine on my parts before it get to much more out of hand. Some may not understand the hours that go into achieving a shine on brass and all I can tell you is it's a lot if work.
The eccentrics were salvaged and the Alum finally work after letting them soak. So the eccentrics are complete.
Ok enough talk and here are some photos for you.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zpsvgthpopp.jpg)
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(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg2_zpsaqmjkmqi.jpg)
Thanks for looking
Don
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Love that beam - and the rest too, but particularly the beam! :D
Simon.
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Don
That is coming along really nice! Looking forward to more.
Joe
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Nice to see an update Don. The finishes look great, but yours always do!! All that time and effort really shines :)
Bill
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Beautiful looking work Don, your work has that look of a piece of nineteenth scientific century instrumentation.
Mike
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Hi Don, good to see you back at it. Nice polished surfaces are shown there.
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Your work looks incredible Don, as always. :ThumbsUp:
I have an "idea" of how much work it must take to get that beautiful shine. I've tried, and I just don't have the patience. You do an amazing job at getting that wonderful finish on your brass! I continue to be in awe of your abilities. :praise2:
Kim
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My brother, that just looks awesome :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp:. A nice cool workshop is a good place to spend time during these muggy days of summer. Turn up the A/C and let the chips roll.
Cletus
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This is a real stunner, Don. It's going to look amazing when finished!
Simon
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Lovely, lovely workmanship as usual Don, the amount of work you've put into that polishing is certainly well 'reflected' in those mirror like reflections :ThumbsUp:
Yet another gem to the 'collection' on it's way without a doubt ;)
Regards - Ramon
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That's just beautiful Don!
I'm kind of liking having the display base finished early on; then when the machine work is completed you are not faced with a whole other project to construct the base. I'm still struggling with how I want to do the base for the Pacific and pump; I have ideas but nothing has really hit me yet.
Do you have a plan to keep the shine or will you let everything age naturally and develop a nice patina? I have a few shiny items and it is quite a bit of work to polish everything up for the show season.
Again, beautiful work bud, great to see some progress on this interesting engine.
Dave
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Absolutely splendid Don :praise2: :praise2:
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Thank all of you for your kind comments and especially your support. All this support keeps me going and focus. Unfortunately a job has come up and I will be working out of town for the rest of the week. If some of you have been watching the weather you see a storm heading for the Louisiana and Texas coast. Texas is where I am heading and toward to coast line. Tomorrow will be the decision day to go or not so we will see.
Getting back to the project at hand I started on the connecting rod and managed to get the main connecting rod almost complete.
We start will a piece of .625 stainless rod and cut to .26"
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Then start a 2.5 degree taper to form a fish belly center.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg3_zpsbtpq0lsk.jpg)
After which I moved to the mill to cut the flats on end of the rod to .25"
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg4_zps7v44p6xe.jpg)
After cutting one bearing block and drilling the rod and bearing it was time to shut it down for the day.
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That's all for now and thanks for looking.
Don
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Nice fish belly , crawfish :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp:
Cletus
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Nice Don, I love those fishbelly rods! Hope the weather doesn't cause you too many problems. Strange weather in a lot of places this Spring/Summer...it was 99 degrees here today...way too early for those temps. We could use some of the rain though for sure.
Bill
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Don-
It is coming along nicely. Outstanding work as usual.
-Bob
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Nice work Don, did you do the tapers with the top slide? Cheers, Hugh.
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Thanks Bill, Eric, Bob and Hugh for following along.
Do you have a plan to keep the shine or will you let everything age naturally and develop a nice patina? I have a few shiny items and it is quite a bit of work to polish everything up for the show season.
Dave
Dave sorry I hadn't answered your question. I do plan to keep the shine and they are placed in Doll cases which helps them keep the shine and form a beautiful patina after a few months or so.
By the way I have a few photos of the Keller mode for you.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/KELLER%20DIE%20FILIER/image.jpg1_zpss2ctsvfk.jpg)
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/KELLER%20DIE%20FILIER/image.jpg2_zpsotp55wzk.jpg)
Nice work Don, did you do the tapers with the top slide? Cheers, Hugh.
thanks Hugh and yes I used the top slide.
I did a little work today on the main connecting rod and managed to chuck one bearing and drilled the oiler hole. I believe I did a bo bo on the oiler hole. The drawings call for .0625" hole and I took it for a .0625" copper tubing so I drilled it for that. Well I can plug it if I have to.
First photo cutting the outside diameter with the bearing inserted into the connecting rod.
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Drilling the wrong size hole in the rod for the oiler.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg2_zps9wvrtbj1.jpg)
The rod so far and you can see the over size hole and one bearing left to complete the main rod.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg3_zpsy3jxlvdz.jpg)
That's all for now and my trip has been cancelled for the time being.
Don
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I hope the weather doesn't bother you.
BTW...I have an issue with your last shot. Do I focus on the part? Or on the portrait of the hand? ;D Looks like there's some fine memories there. ;D
I don't say much...but I'm looking.
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Hi Carl glad to see you posting buddy. And no focus on the part, my IPAD focus on what it wants ,if I Don't tap at the spot I want.
Ok had some time again to complete the connecting rod and I decided to keep the 1/16" copper pipe for the lubricator and I installed an orfice at the end to keep it for allowing to much oil to flow.
First photo of the completed connecting rod with the lubricator installed.
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A photo of the Rod installed on the engine.
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I started with the cylinder pedestal next after cutting the bottom to size I drilled the mounting holes.
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After which I turned it around in the Chuck to cut the cylinder end and drilled the mounting holes for it.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zpsidcgjz4a.jpg)
A family photo of what we have so far.
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That's all for now and I hope to get started on the cylinder next so we will see how that goes. Thanks for the support.
Don
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That is looking great Don. I like the way you did the oil hole and cup...you are building quite a nice family there :)
Bill
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Don, its a good thing your trip over to TX got cancelled. From what we are seeing on the news here, it could have been much worse but on top of all the rain already, the flooding looks bad!! Did you feel any effects from it over your way?
Bill
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Don, its a good thing your trip over to TX got cancelled. From what we are seeing on the news here, it could have been much worse but on top of all the rain already, the flooding looks bad!! Did you feel any effects from it over your way?
Bill
Hi Bill, no we got a lot of rain but where I am located we drain OK. There are levies all around us and they were built up since the 1973 high waters. We were 1 foot from flooding back then and the corp of engineers raised it 6 more ft. Texas has low area's by the highway over passes that take on a lot of water as does Houston. I feel for all those people that flooded. Back after hurricane Andrew I loss everything, but the good lord has a way of doing things and payed me back, becaused the oilfield busted wide open and there wasn't enough people to do the work and you could name you price.
Don
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Hi Don, great progress. I am still following along. I like your drill arrangement on the lathe.
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I always admire the finish you get on your models :praise2: :praise2: I don't have the patience for that :(
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I too am in awe of the finish you obtain. Like Achim , I also I also admire your tool post drill. Any chance of some more photos of it please?
yours
peter
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Bill, Achim, Roger and Peter thanks for following.
I too am in awe of the finish you obtain. Like Achim , I also I also admire your tool post drill. Any chance of some more photos of it please?
yours
peter
Hi Peter,
I have two methods of drill on the lathe. One is a tool post grinder I converted to a drill and the other is a quick change tool post insert I made to fit my Foredom Chuck. The Foredom is the quickest method of drilling. I have a dividing attachment for the lathe headstock. With the dividing attachment and quick change for the Foredom it takes less than a minute to set up. A few photos for you
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Don
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Today was a good day for a change. I managed to make the cylinder at least to the point where I can start making the port face and get it ready for soldering. I made the flange from some flat stock cut it square and centered it in the four jaw Chuck to drill and bore. I left a lip on the cylinder so the flange would still cover and bolt holes would clamp it down. Tomorrow I will put the cylinder on the mill and shape the flange.
Ok some photos for you and I started with the flange squared and over sized.using the lathe backstop I chucked it in the four jaw Chuck and centered.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zpssqje6ewa.jpg)
I first spotted the center of the flange the mounted the drill and dividing attachment to drill the cover holes then bored to fit the cylinder. I cut the flange bore to 1.125".
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg2_zpsvb9j65au.jpg)
The cylinder was next and after using the DTI to center the cylinder. I cut a lip to fit the flanged I just made and then drilled the cover mounting holes.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg3_zpsox9n8ozi.jpg)
Next I bored the cylinder to .874" and using a plug gauge to check the fit.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg4_zpsuf9lofmr.jpg)
To cut the outside of the cylinder to size I mounted it on an expanding mandrel and cut it between centers.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg5_zpswwqykx6z.jpg)
This last phot is a family shot with the cylinder still in it's raw state without the port face mounted on the pedestal.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg6_zpsazthpvfd.jpg)
Well that' s all for now and thanks for looking and following.
Don
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Very nice Don. It's really starting to come together as the family shot shows. All that polished brass is going to make a beautiful looking model!!!
Bill
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Hi Don, good to see some more progress.
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Don, it's looking outstanding. Hugh.
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Bill,Achim and Hugh thanks for following. I didn't get much done today but finished trimming the flange and drilling the cylinder bottom holes.
I set the cylinder up on my GHT's rotary table clamped in the vice and centered it up. I trimmed all sides to close size and cut the back radius.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zpsszae3vxk.jpg)
Moving to the front to trim the curves where the port face will fit.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg2_zps0jygf6b9.jpg)
Flipping the cylinder over and clamping in the vise to the flange we just squared to drill the mounting holes in the bottom.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg3_zpsdet3grrs.jpg)
And last a shot of the cylinder mounted to the engine.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg4_zps7f9mejmw.jpg)
Tomorrow I am hoping to get the port face trimmed and ready for soldering.
Thanks for looking.
Don
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Nice work on the cylinder Don!
--Tim
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Nice work Don. Best hurry up and polish that top piece though lest the little scratches multiply and migrate to the already polished parts :ROFL:
Bill
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Looking good Don!! Nice work!
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Don, I've been quietly following your impressive build. Perhaps I missed what plans you are following. I recently picked up the AM books and wondering if they are good enough, or if you bought plans or had to redraw them. I also wonder the same about the Benson, which I'd *really* like to build someday!
Keep those posts coming. This is inspirational!
Todd
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Tim, Bill, Doc and Todd glad you guys are following.
Don, I've been quietly following your impressive build. Perhaps I missed what plans you are following. I recently picked up the AM books and wondering if they are good enough, or if you bought plans or had to redraw them. I also wonder the same about they Benson, which I'd *really* like to build someday!
Keep those posts coming. This is inspirational!
Todd
Hi Todd,
AM's books are first rate for building and you can redraw them if you need to visualize something better. But working from the book no problem.
Today I managed to complete the port face and cover ready for soldering. So the first photo is the raw stock being cut and trimmed for milling.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zps5trrm9ua.jpg)
Setting it up in the vise and cutting a curve into the body to fit to the cylinder.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg2_zpshmofhjmw.jpg)
And after we do a trial fit and it fits perfectly.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg3_zps6feona7s.jpg)
I used the band saw to cut a 15 degree taper into the port face block to seperate the cover and here is a photo after cleaning them up.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg4_zpsswc4wsmh.jpg)
Using the mill I started trimming the cover.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg7_zpsanpyioie.jpg)
So here we have the cover. I did have a slight Bo Bo on the top right side of the cover and when I sliver solder I will address it.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg8_zpscpyor50e.jpg)
A final photo of the cylinder fitted with port face and cover. If you look close you will see the notch missing on the cover.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg9_zpsadqgyy74.jpg)
That's all for today and thanks for looking. I am hoping tomorrow I can get the port face solder on and start on the cylinder cover. I do have a drawing of the port face and flange an will attempt to attach it for those who may want to build the engine as this will help.
Don
Don
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Well that just looks dandy Don!! Nice work as always and the fits look perfect...should make soldering easier. Wish I could find some shop time around here, but these 95+ temps have the garage feeling like an oven for the moment. Its supposed to break some this weekend so maybe I can make some progress here. Meanwhile I am enjoying your progress on this lovely little (well not that little) engine!!
Bill
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Don,
Very nice progress and thanks for posting the extra drawings. I'm determined to build this some day and I'm sure they'll (and the entire build log) will be VERY handy.
It's also clear I need to learn how to silver solder. That's heading quickly to the top of my "gotta learn" list.
Todd
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Very nice work on the valve chest - never seen one with beveled cover like that, looks great!
I have wondered about silver soldering a chest to the cylinder after boring it. Does the annealing from the high heat cause problems? Any problems with deforming or warping? It would make it easier to machine, but I've never tried it.
Following with interest!
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Todd, I also made my larger scale Benson and E&A from the book without need to refer to the drawings. They are a bit small in teh book but quite usable and can always be scanned off and enlarged which also keeps the book clean.
J
PS comming on well Don :ThumbsUp:
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Beautiful Don. Simply Beautiful. You are the finish master.
:AllHailTheKing:
-Bob
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You rock dog. I'm liking your approach :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp:
Cletus
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Much appreciate guys for following and looking in.
Very nice work on the valve chest - never seen one with beveled cover like that, looks great!
I have wondered about silver soldering a chest to the cylinder after boring it. Does the annealing from the high heat cause problems? Any problems with deforming or warping? It would make it easier to machine, but I've never tried it.
Following with interest!
Chris this is only the second cylinder I've made this way. The first was the Benson and I had no problem with it. It runs on air that doesn't show on the gage so I would say that it worked Ok.
Bill I know what you mean about the heat and I am glad I have A/C. The gulf is slow right now so I seem to have time on my hands, so I am taking advantage of it.
Back to the engine and I did solder the cylinder and it went very well. I did the port face cavity and drilled the port holes. I think I made another Bo Bo when I drilled the inlet air hole I went to far and drilled into my slide valve shaft opening. It's not bad and I will put a plug in it after I tap it. I just have to re drill the slide valve shaft hole again.
I started by tinning the port face block.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zpszi7aehz0.jpg)
After masking with white out we are ready to sliver solder.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg2_zpsmridon5r.jpg)
This photo is to show you just how well the white out works. I didn't pickle it yet, just brushed off with water.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg3_zpsrk7iymtz.jpg)
Ok both sides after pickling and you can see that there is hardly any solder excursion.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg4_zpstildtv4a.jpg)
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg5_zpsaqpw2avf.jpg)
I moved to the lathe and put the cylinder on an expanding mandrel to cut the top face true and to trim the tail I left on the bottom of the port block flush with the bottom flange.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg7_zpsfoahf6hy.jpg)
Milling out the port face.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg3_zpslyl78nob.jpg)
Drilling out the port holes and there are two on each side.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg4_zpsnjnaadz6.jpg)
And last a photo of the inside of the port face opening.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg5_zpstnd9kjlp.jpg)
That's all for now and thanks for looking.
Don
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Nice Don and a very neat job of it...but I knew it would be :).
Glad you are getting some good shop time.
Bill
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Dang Dog, you seem to be a master manipulator of that molten solder :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp:.. I'm :popcorn: and :DrinkPint: and digging it.
Cletus
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Nicely done!
You make it look too easy Don.
Dave
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Hi Don, as Dave said, nicely done. I like it.
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Looking great there Don! I'm still following along. :popcorn:
Kim
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That's really looking awesome my Brother!
Dave
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Thanks guys for the continued support.
That's really looking awesome my Brother!
Dave
Dave my brother much appreciate you checking in.
Some progress today as I managed to make the cylinder cover, drilled the holes in the port face cover. And managed to break the tap in the port face cover holes. I am not to upset about it and will figure a way to remove it if I have to plug the hole after. Next week I start a job so progress will slow down a bit.
I started with the cylinder cover and this is my favorite, graving using GHTs quick change tool rest.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zpscaqj5txl.jpg)
The cover after drilling the mounting holes and clean up.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg2_zpsjityjdg8.jpg)
Making use of the UPT to tap the holes in the cylinder.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zpsm0u29qwa.jpg)
Last us a family photo of my progress.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg2_zpscsithxyb.jpg)
Thanks for looking and following.
Don
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Well, now that we are used to daily updates, I'll be missing those next week, but you got to pay the bills right :) That cylinder cover looks fantastic!!!
Bill
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Dog, don't those folks know you are in the middle of a build, tell them to call back later :lolb:. I dig the hand turning. What are you using in the picture for a tool, it looks like you can see through it. Don't let that four letter word (work) keep us in suspense too long.
Cletus
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I'm curious about the hand turning, too. Are you doing it completely by eye, or are you checking against the contour you have in the tool (not sure if they match or not)? I assume you ground the tool yourself out of hss blanks of some kind?
I didn't know you could turn by hand like this. Looks like woodturning in a way.
Your engine is REALLY taking shape. Will be sad to see it slow down. Hope you get a little weekend time here and there.
Todd
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That is looking mighty N I C E !!!!!
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I think some people need to go to specsavers :ShakeHead:
Look again the tool is only about 1/8" wide will a rounded end. Just shaped up like a small woodworking scraper just like this one, I use a bit of bar in the toolpost a sa rest
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v156/jasonballamy/Engineering/EastonandAnderson/IMAG0844_zpsd1afe723.jpg)
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Thanks again guys for your support.
Dog, don't those folks know you are in the middle of a build, tell them to call back later :lolb:. I dig the hand turning. What are you using in the picture for a tool, it looks like you can see through it. Don't let that four letter word (work) keep us in suspense too long.
Cletus
I'm curious about the hand turning, too. Are you doing it completely by eye, or are you checking against the contour you have in the tool (not sure if they match or not)? I assume you ground the tool yourself out of hss blanks of some kind?
I didn't know you could turn by hand like this. Looks like woodturning in a way.
Your engine is REALLY taking shape. Will be sad to see it slow down. Hope you get a little weekend time here and there.
Todd
Eric and Todd I use micro hand tool set to grave with and Todd the cover is all free hand. I have attached a photo of a set like mine for you.
Don
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I didn't get much done today but I managed to make one valve rod, one valve Rod head and both valve chest glands. And also polished up the cylinder and pedestal. I am hoping next week to start the beam brackets and piston rod.
A few photos for you and they are just family shots.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg2_zpsi4tjr5hc.jpg)
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zpstbxrqusm.jpg)
Thanks for looking.
Don
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Wow, Don it just keeps getting better!
Dave
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Beautiful Don!! Do you do anything to keep the brass from tarnishing? Love the family shots too.
Bill
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Thanks Dave and Bill for the comments.
Beautiful Don!! Do you do anything to keep the brass from tarnishing? Love the family shots too.
Bill
Bill to keep the brass fresh I use an plexiglass case cover and the brass forms it's own patina after a while but no tarnish. I use one on the engine as it's being built. I attached a photo of my Benson in it's case.
Don
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Well I have been working lately and that's a good thing. But today I had a little time do so I decided to finish the linkage by making the links, valve Rod heads, valve Rod and slide valve. And I have a few photos for you not much but it shows a little progress.
First is a look at the links and rockers together with the valve rods.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zpslcq69yzn.jpg)
I made the slide valve out of a stainless rod.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg2_zpsejomy2r4.jpg)
This photo is a rough set up of how the links ,rods and rockers all fit together.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg3_zpsu4k3lwhu.jpg)
I hoping tomorrow to make the piston and rod bearing so we will see. Thanks for looking.
Don
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Man, that is looking fine Don!! Love that valve linkage...what an interesting engine and well polished too of course :)
Bill
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8) That is blindingly shiny! I love it Don!
Keep up the good work. Can't wait to see it run!
Kim
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Nice work as usual Don, still following,
Simon.
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Hi Don, I like all these linkages and rods. It will be interesting to see it all in motion.
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Bill, Kim, Simon and Achim thanks guys for following and commenting. I didn't get much done today but I did get the piston rod and rod bearing done. I broke my tap in the piston so no piston and I had to order another tap. This was a $30 tap that I broke so I am not a happy camper.
Ok this is what I did today and like I said not much, but it is progress.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zps3ikpujzj.jpg)
That's all for now.
Don
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Looks nice Don.
I sure feel for you on the broken tap. I've done that a time or three... :-\
So why is the tap $30? Is it a spiral tap? Or a roll form tap or something? Clearly it wasn't an unbreakable tap! That's the kind I keep looking for...
Kim
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Hey Don
Nice to see that you are continuing to make progress; very nice work as usual.
Dave
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Dave and Kim a late thanks. Kim the tap is a model engineering tap and comes from the UK. After freight the cost is up.
Ok so I've been taking a break so now it's time to get back to work. I started today making the air pump cylinder. It's all bored and still have some drilling to do. I also noticed that I will need to put it back in the lathe to cut the top flange off, somehow I misunderstood the drawings. No big deal it can still get done.
First photo cutting the bottom to size then opening the bottom opening to .5 and cutting an insert lip .750 .
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zps0ceq7wr2.jpg)
The cylinder before boring with flange trimmed.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg2_zpsnprzpxk9.jpg)
I started boring the cylinder to size. I first cut the .750 cylinder opening and finishing the .875 top insert opening.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg3_zpsgyfgd3jm.jpg)
I moved to the mill and after finding center used the DRO function to drill the flange and cylinder cover holes.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg4_zps7mtlxnd4.jpg)
The cylinder after drilling and looking into the bore.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg5_zpscyexclsu.jpg)
Well that's all for today and hope to continue tomorrow. Thanks for looking.
Don
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Good to see you back on this one Don. Such a beautiful engine!!
Bill
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Hi Don, good to see you back in the shop. A nice air pump cylinder.
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Thanks Bill and Achim for your continued support.
I made some progress today with the air pump. I completed the insert drilled and tapped the holes completed the cover but still need a couple of holes for the packing gland.
This photo is a look into the bore from the bottom, you can see the hole passage where the air check flap will be.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg2_zpsnidba33v.jpg)
Making the sleeve insert for the top part of the cylinder. There will be holes drilled into the bottom for another air check flap. The drawings has a mistake because the cylinder cover is suppose to touch it when inserted and I am short .125" looks like I will make a ring for that.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg3_zpszmgbb4ua.jpg)
Making the cylinder cover and I choose to cut the flange mounting side toward the tail stock and work on the top part towards the Chuck. Even though there is a small spigot I was afraid it would come out the Chuck when parting. Doing some graving and I try to get practice on every project.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zps6qyrfpcr.jpg)
A layout of the parts and the check flaps are not made yet.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zps5r52mcvu.jpg)
Assembled together.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg5_zpsdobxyzzo.jpg)
That's all for today and thanks for looking.
Don
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Nice work there Don! :ThumbsUp:
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That's some nice progress today Don. Beautiful work as always. Always look forward to your updates on the E&A.
Bill
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Beautiful engine Don, glad I looked at this thread.
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It's already been said, and it looks so sweet in your hand. Cheers, Hugh.
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Thanks kirk, Bill! Nick and Hugh for your support .
Beautiful engine Don, glad I looked at this thread.
Nick glad to have you on board.
Well today was not a good day. It's one of those days where it's best to leave well enough alone. I was attempting to make the air pump rod. After two attempts I shut it down for the day. I did manage to make the piston for the air pump and that was almost a mishap but I managed to save it. I did a bunch of fiddling and it really doesn't show. I also started the cylinder brackets and managed to get them cut.
The first photo is my mishaps and as you can see there were two.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg4_zpsqy5lytc3.jpg)
The cylinder bracket cad drawing glued to the two bits of brass sheet.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zpsrvgk7yzo.jpg)
A look at the double back tape.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg2_zpscbdlulnj.jpg)
After cutting with the jewelers saw and filing.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg3_zpsj64rm498.jpg)
After cleaning them up.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg6_zpsyrwj10bk.jpg)
I'm thought it was time for a family shoot.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg5_zpsul5ogk5p.jpg)
That's all for now and thanks for looking.
Don
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Bummer on the rods Don, but you do have those very nice cylinder brackets to show for it. Lots of filing I imagine.
Bill
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Hi Don, also these days wil be followed by another, better one. Next time, when you start to remake the pump rod, you will know exactly what to do in a different way. Nice family shot.
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Dog, tough luck on the "practice" pieces, just write it off to setting up the machines. Now, the rest of it is sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. Your soldering, sawing, filing, and fabricating is top notch and the finish is, well, "pure Don" :NotWorthy: :NotWorthy:.
Cletus
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Family shot looks good Don, you are well on your way to completion, just as well as what I'm working on at the moment would make an ideal candidate for one of your little "brass Beuties" as it is from a Fairground ride :)
J
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Don, I just tuned in on this build. I am quite impressed with the quality and detail, very nice work. I poked through some of the previous pages, and can see I have been missing out on a great build.
I like the brass, especially on a steam engine, looks fantastic. I noticed your white out tip for silver soldering, don't do that a lot, but it always ends up a mess. I'll try the white out next time.
Do you plan to make a brass boiler and run it on steam?
maury
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Thanks Bill, Achim, Eric, Jason and Maury for looking and Commenting.
Bummer on the rods Don, but you do have those very nice cylinder brackets to show for it. Lots of filing I imagine.
Bill
Hi Bill and yes your right a lot of filing. Actually I don't believe there isn't a piece on this engine where it don't take a lot of filing. Thanks for following my brother.
Hi Don, also these days wil be followed by another, better one. Next time, when you start to remake the pump rod, you will know exactly what to do in a different way. Nice family shot.
Achim I thought that to but it didn't happen. This thing fought me tooth and nail. I managed to salvage one of the rods and made a brass end for it. But even that was a battle when I went to Tap the rod, the Tap broke. So much for that.
Dog, tough luck on the "practice" pieces, just write it off to setting up the machines. Now, the rest of it is sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. Your soldering, sawing, filing, and fabricating is top notch and the finish is, well, "pure Don" :NotWorthy: :NotWorthy:.
Cletus
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I guess I going to have to write it off to something my brother since today was no better. Thanks for following my brother.
Family shot looks good Don, you are well on your way to completion, just as well as what I'm working on at the moment would make an ideal candidate for one of your little "brass Beuties" as it is from a Fairground ride :)
J
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OK Jason since you let the cat out of the bag, what ride? Thanks for looking in mate.
Don, I just tuned in on this build. I am quite impressed with the quality and detail, very nice work. I poked through some of the previous pages, and can see I have been missing out on a great build.
I like the brass, especially on a steam engine, looks fantastic. I noticed your white out tip for silver soldering, don't do that a lot, but it always ends up a mess. I'll try the white out next time.
Do you plan to make a brass boiler and run it on steam?
maury
Maury thanks for checking in and thank you. No I do have a boiler Kit but don,t plan to run it on steam. It's more of a displace piece with a doll case cover. It will run on air after I have piped all the ports out.
Ok like I was saying today was not as good as it should of been. This Rod has been fighting me since I started it. I managed to salvage one of the rods after sleeping on it not without more grief. The tap broke when trying to tap the end of the rod. I managed to remove the piece. Come to find out my tap drill was to small, a good reason to break a tap. When making the bearing block I over tighten the lathe Chuck when I reversed the block to under cut the opposite side. The only good thing today is the Rod is finished. :pinkelephant:.
This photo is the rod and ruined bearing block.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zpsjogfsrvl.jpg)
And a family shot with the Rod in place on the air pump. I am still finding it hard to to find some .031" rubber or leather here for the air check flaps.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg2_zps0az5oo8p.jpg)
That's all for now and thanks for the continued support.
Don
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Beautiful Don just beautiful.
I have a small selection of leather in that thickness; send me a PM, I may be able to help you out.
Dave
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Hi Don,
This just get better & better! I've been quietly following along & your work is just mind blowing!
As to the rods, well you could leave one out for the workshop gnome, hopefully he or she will squirrel it away and not nick something more important, or send one to Jo so she can tempt hers for a swap for the lost casting.
Not sure how thick a bicycle inner tube is but you should be able to get one for free for the bike shop.
Now just waiting for completion & the all important video!
Cheers Kerrin
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Dave and Kerrin thanks for your comments and following. I didn't have much time in the shop today but I did get a start on the governor body. So we have a few photos for you.
I started with boring and threading the body.
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And again some graving practice my favorite. Shaping the governor bottom.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg3_zpsxunf7ndy.jpg)
I moved it over to the mill to bore the flange holes that need to be silver solder in place.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg2_zpsi8ingdu4.jpg)
Next I fluxed and silver soldered the governor body with the flanges. The body after pickling.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg4_zpsckmotx6k.jpg)
The body after some cleaning.
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I started making the governor cap next and first operation was to thread it to fit the body. Making use of the retracting tool holder and this tool works like a dream, makes you love threading.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg6_zpscnc3gzpy.jpg)
A trial fit to of the governor body and it fits great.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg7_zpsjhpgvo5t.jpg)
That's all for now and I start a job tomorrow out of town so it may be next Monday before I get back to it.
Thanks for looking.
Don
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Dog, look at you ; threading in the hole, outta the hole, graving, and manipulating molten solder, you da man :cheers:. You did two hole those flanges didn't you :stir:
Cletus
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Dog, look at you ; threading in the hole, outta the hole, graving, and manipulating molten solder, you da man :cheers:. You did two hole those flanges didn't you :stir:
Cletus
Thanks my brother and yes I did.
Don
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Two hole the flanges??
Bill
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Bill, it's a pipe fitters term. When a flange is installed it is usually aligned with two holes level with the run, hence the term
Cletus
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OK thanks Cletus. However many holes it still turned out very well Don :)
Bill
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Well we sure wouldn't want any off axis bolt patterns would we? Thanks Eric that is a new one for me also.
Don my friend you are a master; well thought out and executed operations, and just beautiful results. :praise2:
:cheers:
Dave
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Hi Don, another step forwards. That will ends up in a really nice showcase engine.
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Looking good Don, Just make sure its not the two opposite holes you set level with the run ;)
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Thanks guys for your continued support.
Looking good Don, Just make sure its not the two opposite holes you set level with the run ;)
No worries Jason, but I am still waiting for a reply on the ride you were working on. You just don't start a conversation a quiet on me. Come on let it out.
I returned early today but I left early this morning, but I have to return again Friday to complete my job. Anyway I had some shop time :pinkelephant:. So I started work on where I left off yesterday on the governor cap.
I do have a few photos for you and this one is after trimming the cap on the lathe. I moved to the mill and cut the inside slot out of the cap.
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after completing the slot milling I returned to the lathe to part it off the parent stock and flipped it around with shims around the threads.
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It was just a matter of drilling the governor shaft bearing hole and reaming it.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg3_zpswkabnrdt.jpg)
A family shot of the governor body and cap.
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A photo with it together and a shaft inserted.
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I still have some sanding and cleaning up to do on it but that's another day and thanks for looking. I should have some more progress tomorrow.
Don
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Oh yeah, that is looking just fine Don. Don't you hate it though when you are on a roll and then work gets in the way...it just messes up the good karma you have going ::)
Bill
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Don, take a look at 1870 engine thread and you may get an idea of what I'm working on. Probably best I start a thrtead myself.
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Oh yeah, that is looking just fine Don. Don't you hate it though when you are on a roll and then work gets in the way...it just messes up the good karma you have going ::)
Bill
Your right about that Bill, just when you get on a roll something comes up. Oh well it pays the bills.
Don, take a look at 1870 engine thread and you may get an idea of what I'm working on. Probably best I start a thrtead myself.
That would be ideal Jason.
Ok the progress I make may not look like much but believe me it took some time. I started out making the top pivot post and broke a tap in it so a remake was in order. The cross bar also had to be remade since the dimensions on the drawing were not making it wide enough so I extended it. The governor ball I made in three pieces each. I didn't have some .0625" stainless so I used brass and silver soldered the top loops and loctite the balls.
I started with the top pivot post by graving it to shape. I drilled and tap the bottom to 4-40 thread. The shaft and cross bar was also threaded the same.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg2_zpsgnphm5on.jpg)
I needed to cut the shaft to length so I did a trial fit with the gears. You do remember the gears I made at the beginning of the thread? I also wanted the shaft to go to the bottom so it looked like a working governor.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zpsjdxbiixr.jpg)
After assembling with the balls and pivot post complete.
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That's all for now and it will be next week before more updates so thanks for looking.
Don
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Just beautiful Don, and worth the wait till the next update..just don't make it too long :LittleDevil:
Bill
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Yes, very nice Don; your governor turned out great!
I do enjoy seeing the hand turning; what little I have done was a fun exersize.
Dave
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That's super pretty Don. And yes, bravo on the hand turning.
--Tim
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Beautiful work, as always Don!
Kim
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Stunning work, Don. Not only beautiful, but accomplished as well.
Chuck
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Hi Don, another perfect addition to this beautiful grasshopper.
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Dog, that's just too sweet. Did I tell you : I like :NotWorthy: :NotWorthy: :wine1:
Cuz'n Cletus
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Thanks you all for your comments and support I really appreciate all of you.
I started today trying to complete the valve part of the governor. I have the valve wheel left to make to complete the valve part of the governor.
I started by turning the flange just some badic turning with a .126" hole and .3125 shoulder. I also made a .3125" recess on the top of the valve body's r the flange to fit to.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg1_zpsh06net9i.jpg)
I followed by making the valve spindle cutting a 45 degree V and threading .125 x40. The .125" shaft was cut in steps and close to the Chuck to avoid flexing.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg2_zpsptrycurf.jpg)
I needed a .0625" square on the end of the valve spindle so using the filing rest and dividing head it was done quickly.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg3_zpsdqs1mkcb.jpg)
Making the valve over arm I decided to make it in three parts and sliver solder together.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg4_zpsuav28dje.jpg)
A family shot of the valve parts.
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A couple of family shots assembled.
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(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg6_zpskdb12yxj.jpg)
That's all for today and thanks for looking.
Don
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Yee doggies, that's sweeter than sorghum on a biscuit :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp:. Just beautiful Don.
Cletus
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Looking good my friend. Nice to see you back on it.
Bill
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Very nice Don,
I was just thinking how quickly you could file that square on the end of the shaft being able to index in the lathe and use the filing rest; and how much longer it would take to remove the part and set it up in the mill to do the same operation. The time you have spent making tools sure pays you back.
Dave
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Hi Don, a very nice valve/governor unit. I like your filing rest. I am not familiar with these little Tabasco bottles. What is the size of it ?
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Thanks again guys for your support.
Very nice Don,
I was just thinking how quickly you could file that square on the end of the shaft being able to index in the lathe and use the filing rest; and how much longer it would take to remove the part and set it up in the mill to do the same operation. The time you have spent making tools sure pays you back.
Dave
Dave I can' tell how much I enjoy using these tools and they sure make life easier.
Hi Don, a very nice valve/governor unit. I like your filing rest. I am not familiar with these little Tabasco bottles. What is the size of it ?
Achim Tabasco sauce is made just a hour from here and it's one of our Louisiana favorites.
The one you see in the photo is a sample bottle. I am attaching a photo for you of the full size and sample bottle.
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I started out making the valve handle by making the hub and drilling the four holes and silver soldering links to it. The hub will stay on the parent stock till I am complete with the handle.
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Then I move over to the lathe to cut the branches to the proper length. I am running the lathe as fast as I can and feeding the cutter in slowly. When I get close to size I use a jeweler rat tail file to cut a small lip on one side of the branch so it can support the valve ring.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg3_zpsuwafqwvl.jpg)
The valve ring I rolled it around a .5 piece of round stock and silver soldered together.
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The valve hand wheel after silver soldering and pickling.
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I had to make a square broach to cut the .0625 square. I made it out of tool steel and hardened.
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The valve handle mounted to the governor body.
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Next I started making the pipe stem and I made it from three pieces. I used .25 round and cut the pieces to fit and silver soldered together. The pipe stem after silver soldering and pickling.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg9_zpsjkhqfnc4.jpg)
I started to make the branch pipe by cut a flange with a .25 section of pipe .625 long. I cut a .5625" flat and drilled a .1875" hole about .0625" deep to have something for the flange to lock to.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg10_zpskh6t7tgd.jpg)
You can see the lip on the flange and the dimple in the pipe for the two to fit.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg11_zpsfsqvciqf.jpg)
The pipe stem and branch pipe together.
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A family shot of the pieces so far and you can see the rounding over of the branch pipe where it was soldered.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image.jpg12_zps144vv9lh.jpg)
That's all for now and thanks for looking.
Don
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Man, that handwheel turned out great Don!! The whole governor is beautiful but those little details really add a lot to it.
Bill
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Don, it just keeps getting better!
Dave
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Wow, Don! that's some mighty impressive work there! :ThumbsUp:
Kim
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That governor is looking very good and SMALL, reminds me why I like to build them bigger ;)
I seem to remember the governor came a bit too close to the valve chest on mine so test fit any pipework before you commit, may just have been due to me making my chest a bit more like the original.
J
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Just catching up on this build again. Beautiful work as ever (and so small) :praise2: :praise2:
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Stunning work... Stunning..
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DOG, damn, that's so sweet you should buy the beer, I'll shuck ;) :cheers:
Cletus
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That's really looking good Don. :ThumbsUp:
(So's that sample sized bottle of sauce... used to get that size in some MREs..)
Joe
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Don, you're there with the best. Hugh.
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Thanks again all of you for the support and kind comments.
That governor is looking very good and SMALL, reminds me why I like to build them bigger ;)
I seem to remember the governor came a bit too close to the valve chest on mine so test fit any pipework before you commit, may just have been due to me making my chest a bit more like the original.
J
Jason thanks for following along and the heads up on the piping.
Didn't get much done today but I did complete the drain cock. I started by making a D bit with a 2 degree taper and using the filing rest cut the flat.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image_zpsfchirgnk.jpeg)
After centering the parent stock to the mill vise I centered, drill and reamed the taper opening in the drain cock body.
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Next I chuck a piece in the lathe and cut a taper to fit the opening in the drain cock body. Test fitting in this photo.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image_zps7juatkn3.jpeg)
A photo of the branch pipe, pipe stem and drain cock.
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A look at the drain cock on the pipe stem. This is were to me the handle looks to big on the drain cock.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image_zpshzryzi8g.jpeg)
That's all for now and thanks for looking and your support.
Don
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Hey Buddy! I've been away too long! It's coming along great!!!!! Nice Work!
Dave
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Hey Buddy! I've been away too long! It's coming along great!!!!! Nice Work!
Dave
Dave my brother thanks for checking in I really appreciate it.
Today I started with a remake of the drain cock as I had never made one before I wasn't quiet sure how to go about with the handle. Well today I think I nailed it so judge for yourselves. This first photo is the new drain cock on the pipe ste.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image_zpszixr7ttz.jpeg)
Now I had to start making some of Jo's favorite nuts and studs. I started out by drilling and parting off bits of hex stock.
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Follower by using GHT'S lathe back stop and the nut threading aids. The Ops arbor pulls the nut in for tapping and pushes it out when complete.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image_zps4h7y1fdo.jpeg)
I follow up by threading. There is another ops arbor that the nut threads to and draws it into an adapter chucked in the jaws and where we use the tool chiesel to cut the nut to shape. These ops arbors are a life saver to do these small nuts with. Many thanks GHT.
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The governor assembled but not finished.
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That's all for today and making these nuts and studs are a time consuming task I still have plenty more nuts to make. Thanks for looking.
Don
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Don that is a beautiful and impressive piece of work; "Machinist's jewelry"!
Dave
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Don, that handle really looks the part! I agree, you nailed it! :)
Just beautiful, as usual,
Kim
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Tedious work done, but the governor looks great. The new handle does look a bit more scale, but I thought the first one was good too. If your are pleased , then you did indeed nail it :)
Bill
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Dave, Kim and Bill many thanks guys for the continued support and comments, it is really appreciated.
Don
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Hi Don, as Dave already mentioned , "Machinist's jewelry".
How did you bent the handle ?
I have made the experience, that to avoid cracking, a two step process with a some hours brake between each bending is helpful.
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Now I had to start making some of Jo's favorite nuts and studs.
That's all for today and making these nuts and studs are a time consuming task I still have plenty more nuts to make.
Time consuming :facepalm2: don't I know it.
I used to try a bit of engineering nut/stud humour to encourage me to get on with I found that was not appreciated so I still have the B&W sitting there waiting for lots and lots of "fastners" to be made :disappointed:.
At least at work the guys still appreciate engineering humour and my "Michelle Dubois" Pear jokes (Best done with the French accent ;))
Jo
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Hi Don, as Dave already mentioned , "Machinist's jewelry".
How did you bent the handle ?
I have made the experience, that to avoid cracking, a two step process with a some hours brake between each bending is helpful.
Hi Achim, I bent the stem by heating it red and bend it slowly in one pass.
Thanks Jo for looking in from your busy threads.
Not much to report today still making nuts and studs but I did finish the governor and the air pump. Thanks to Dave Otto I acquired some leather to line the check flaps and the pump functions. A photo of the completed air pump for you.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image_zps9bfwnj1b.jpeg)
And it wouldn't be right not to show a family shot.
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That's it for today and thanks for looking.
Don
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Simply stunning, Dog :praise2: :NotWorthy: :cheers:
Cletus
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That is looking just amazing Don!! Can't wait to see it running...shouldn't be too much longer.
Bill
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Now I had to start making some of Jo's favorite nuts and studs.
That's all for today and making these nuts and studs are a time consuming task I still have plenty more nuts to make.
Time consuming :facepalm2: don't I know it.
I used to try a bit of engineering nut/stud humour to encourage me to get on with I found that was not appreciated so I still have the B&W sitting there waiting for lots and lots of "fastners" to be made :disappointed:.
At least at work the guys still appreciate engineering humour and my "Michelle Dubois" Pear jokes (Best done with the French accent ;))
Jo
Some people just don't have a sense of humor.
Beautiful Don just beautiful; also looking forward to seeing her run.
Dave
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Wow Don! That is truly a thing of beauty! Just gorgeous!
Kim
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Beautiful work, Don. Wish I had your skills at soldering and finishing!
Chuck
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Thanks again Eric, Bill, Dave, Kim and Chuck for your support and comments.
Beautiful work, Don. Wish I had your skills at soldering and finishing!
Chuck
Chuck my friend I get my inspiration from guys like you. All of your builds and educational video's are a great help. I have great respect for the skills you have and feel honored with your comments. Thanks you very much my friend.
I started out today making the cylinder brackets. Un fortunately my wife interrupted me and told me the garage door had jammed up. So I dropped every thing and went home and this finished me off for the day.
So I do have a few photos for you.
The first photo is to show you how I went about cutting a .325" slot into some .0325" brass plate. I set it up on the mill and using the ruler as a guide I scribed a line across the plate. By working the tool back and forth I cut it till I was happy with the depth.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image_zpsvvum0gpp.jpeg)
This is the tool I used to scribe with. A piece of HSS tool bit inserted into one of my needle file handles and sharpen to my liking.
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After some careful wire wrapping with some soft wire were ready for fluxing and silver soldering.
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After pickling and that's all for today.
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Thanks for looking.
Don
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That turned out great Don, some very nice silver soldering too on a delicate part.
Bill
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Hi Don
Do you use your little Smith Jeweler's torch for this type of work?
Just picked up a very nice one from an estate a couple weeks ago.
Dave
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Bill thanks my brother for following.
Hi Don
Do you use your little Smith Jeweler's torch for this type of work?
Just picked up a very nice one from an estate a couple weeks ago.
Dave
Dave I have Smiths little torch but most of my soldering is done with my big torch by controlling it to a small flame. The whole idea when silver soldering is to control the heat. I do this by moving the torch in a out as needed and also using the proper tip and flame. The next thing is to watch the flux, when it looks wet it is hot enough. The use of easy flow 56% silver and small diameter solder helps a lot to control your soldering. I will place small bits of solder into the flux in the spots that require solder then add as needed. The most important thing to remember is to clean you parts thoroughly before soldering by sanding the surface and cleaning with a degreaser then flush it with water. I also keep my flux in semi liquid form by adding water and mixing till it is like I want it. I hope this helps you.
Don
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Not much to report today except I made the second bracket and have one ready for buffing and almost completed the sanding on the second.
This is the one of two photos for you and I want to stress how great this little sander works. It has four different heads. You can see the patterns in the sand paper next to it.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image_zpshfhw5xge.jpeg)
A close up so you can see how well the sander works. What I do from here is use my sanding sticks to give it a polish look before I start buffing that way if I see scratches I can attend to them before hand.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image_zpsq5twv1x8.jpeg)
Thanks for looking.
Don
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Don
Still following along, and still very much enjoying it. This is looking really good :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp:
Joe
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Bill thanks my brother for following.
Hi Don
Do you use your little Smith Jeweler's torch for this type of work?
Just picked up a very nice one from an estate a couple weeks ago.
Dave
Dave I have Smiths little torch but most of my soldering is done with my big torch by controlling it to a small flame. The whole idea when silver soldering is to control the heat. I do this by moving the torch in a out as needed and also using the proper tip and flame. The next thing is to watch the flux, when it looks wet it is hot enough. The use of easy flow 56% silver and small diameter solder helps a lot to control your soldering. I will place small bits of solder into the flux in the spots that require solder then add as needed. The most important thing to remember is to clean you parts thoroughly before soldering by sanding the surface and cleaning with a degreaser then flush it with water. I also keep my flux in semi liquid form by adding water and mixing till it is like I want it. I hope this helps you.
Don
Thanks for the tips Don they are much appreciated.
Dave
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Joe thanks for checking in buddy and Dave I hope that help you.
Not much to report today either but I did complete the cylinder brackets and they are mounted. I will leave the polishing on the brackets till last because there is still more to do. The connecting links have to be made and measurements need to be taken to finish the beam setup then last but not least the flywheel.
Just one family photo for you with the brackets mounted to the cylinder.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image_zps0ffcvoyb.jpeg)
Thanks for looking.
Don
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Looking good brother!! Real good!!!!!! What's the nifty little wrench shown in the picture??
Bill
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Looking good brother!! Real good!!!!!! What's the nifty little wrench shown in the picture??
Bill
Hi Bill, the nifty little wrench came with my Electric engines and is metric. I had bought some stainless hex on Amazon to make nuts with and it came in handy for snugging them up.
Don
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Looks like a museum piece. Outstanding!
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So what color are you thinking about painting it? :lolb: :lolb: :lolb:. Just beautiful Dog.
Cletus
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So what color are you thinking about painting it? :lolb: :lolb: :lolb:. Just beautiful Dog.
Cletus
I would recommend clear paint. :lolb:
Better I stop it here, Don will kill me.
Don, it is taking shape and it will be a beauty.
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Thanks Eric, Nick, and Achim for your continued support.
So what color are you thinking about painting it? :lolb: :lolb: :lolb:. Just beautiful Dog.
Cletus
Well let's see pink maybe. :lolb: thanks my brother for following.
So what color are you thinking about painting it? :lolb: :lolb: :lolb:. Just beautiful Dog.
Cletus
I would recommend clear paint. :lolb:
Better I stop it here, Don will kill me.
Don, it is taking shape and it will be a beauty.
Great idea Achim :lolb: and thanks for looking.
Well today I thought way not start on the flywheel. The weather is nice and cool so why not take advantage of it. Well that's just what I did and the photos that follow will sum up my trials and errors to get it done.
I started with a former made from cold roll steel bolted to a plate. I secured it in the vise and organize my C clamps ready and started heating and bending by applying moderate pressure to the bar and let it roll itself around the cold roll. I used clamps as I progressed to insure it was snug against the cold roll and clamp it to the plate. When I was all the way around the cold roll I overlapped the bar like wounding a spring. This gave me enough overlap to pass the flat created at the beginning. I then heated the whole bar all the way around snugging the clamps as I went around. Once I was happy that it was as round as I could get it, I let it cool down then removed it from the former. Using the band saw I cut across the overlap and cut the ends off. Taking it back to the former and once again heated it and clamping and snugging the rim till I was happy it was round enough again.
We started with heating the bar and wrapping it around the former.
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After cutting it and putting it back on the former.
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After soldering but this I was not happy with as you will see.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image_zpsu4zcustc.jpeg)
Now we trim off the extra to get good clean metal.
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After the trimming looks pretty good but wait.
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Now you see why I said wait, I didn't get flow all the way through.
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So i went to the band saw and recut it where it had been soldered. The rim still had some spring in it as it popped open when I cut it. This time I thinned the ends before squeezing them together and reflowed the solder and it worked fine this time. So back to the lathe to trim the rim once more to insure it was round and while it was chucked drilled the internal holes around the perimeter.
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Next came the hub and I drilled holes to secure the halves together before parting.
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This is what we have so far and next will be the spokes. I will be trying something I never done before making these spokes so I am a little nervous.
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One comment before closing is that the rim is made from oversize bar stock so I can cut and trim as needed. I am posting this for the amateur because I made that mistake on my first flywheel.
That's all for now and thanks for looking.
Don
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Dog, I hate incomplete penetration, but, at our age I'm used to it :lolb: :lolb:. What size is the bar stock you are using. Now, I've seen your cross slide drilling rig before, but, I hadn't seen the 90 degree head: saweeeet :praise2:. I don't know about the pink paint though, maybe something that closer resembles polished brass :lolb: :lolb:. Anyhoo, damn nice work dog. :wine1:
Cletus
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Dog, I hate incomplete penetration, but, at our age I'm used to it :lolb: :lolb:. What size is the bar stock you are using. Now, I've seen your cross slide drilling rig before, but, I hadn't seen the 90 degree head: saweeeet :praise2:. I don't know about the pink paint though, maybe something that closer resembles polished brass :lolb: :lolb:. Anyhoo, damn nice work dog. :wine1:
Cletus
Well the bar is .625 square and the 90 degree head is for my Foredom angle grinder and fits to the Chuck. Thanks Dog.
Don
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Good progress :praise2: +1 for the little right angle drilling head :ThumbsUp:
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Very nice Don, and sure saves a lot of expensive brass swarf by forming it as you did vs. machining it from the solid. Bummer on the penetration but you beat it in the end which is all that matters!! Should be a great looking flywheel here shortly.
Bill
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The angle drill on the QCTP looks like a useful gadget. :ThumbsUp:
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Thanks guys for following and your comments.
The angle drill on the QCTP looks like a useful gadget. :ThumbsUp:
Hi Kirk, yes the angle drill is very helpful. This is and angle grinder adapter for the Foredom Chuck that I adapted to drill with.
Continuing with the flywheel I cut the spoke lengths and cut groves on each end ready for the mill.
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To the mill next using the VDH and tail stock I started cutting the spokes to profile.
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All the profiles cut on the spokes and ready for the lathe.
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Using the lathe to trim the ends ready for the rim and hub.
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I had to prepare the hub for the spokes by cutting a slot in the middle wide enough for the spoke to fit.
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Now the spoke had to be prepare for the hub. Using the boring head I cut an arc the size of the Hub, both edges were prepared for the hub.
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The flywheel assembled but not ready for solder yet. I need to disassemble and clean all the parts as much as possible while they are in pieces. Then we will be ready for soldering.
I need some input from all of you as to keep the spokes straight or tapering them. They will be cut narrower after soldering.
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That's all for today and thanks for looking.
Don
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Dog, damn nice work :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp:. Just an old rednecks POV, but, I think as elegant as this babe is she needs a "waistline " , taper the spokes, just saying. I think it will give it a certain lagniappe. So, Dog, lache pas la patate :wine1: :cheers:.
Cletus
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Nice design Don. Anxious to see it finished now and all polished up as only you can do :)
Bill
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Another bespoke flywheel. Gorgeous, like the rest of it. Cheers, Hugh.
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Don, Nice work on the flywheel and I will have to get one of those angle attachments for my Foredom machine.
I forged a ring of copper for a foundation ring for a boiler and I was wondering if there was some reason that you cut the joint at an angle? I used a radial cut and as I am sure you know it is really hard to make the ends meet with a close gap. I simply used a piece of sheet copper to bridge the gap and soldered both sides of the sheet.
Dan
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Thanks again guys for the support. Dan thanks for looking in buddy.
Dog, damn nice work :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp:. Just an old rednecks POV, but, I think as elegant as this babe is she needs a "waistline " , taper the spokes, just saying. I think it will give it a certain lagniappe. So, Dog, lache pas la patate :wine1: :cheers:.
Cletus
Ok dog tapered spokes it is and I wouldn't let go of the potato.
Today's even went Ok till I started soldering. I was to much in a hurry and guenched the wheel before I let it cool enough and I am paying for that mistake. One of the joint cracked and trying to reflow and repair it has cost me time and more work then I wanted. After trying to repair the crack things started going south and tomorrow I will try to attend to it after clean the flywheel as good as I can get it and try again to repair the joints.
This photo is the precausion I took to prevent more work then needed. All ready for soldering.
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The flywheel after pickling and some clean up. The hub is the area that I will be attempting to clean up tomorrow then reflow solder.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image_zpsj2lvhhsl.jpeg)
That's all for today and thanks for looking.
Don
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Hard to tell in the pictures Don. Looks good to me. Hopefully you will get it back to your liking tomorrow. It is going to look dandy once mounted to the E&A.
Bill
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Hi Don,
That's some very nice fabricating on the flywheel. I like the taper on the spokes also. The next question is are you going to put a radius on all those ribs?
gbritnell
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Thanks Bill I do hope it turns out better because I hate to reflow it.
Hi Don,
That's some very nice fabricating on the flywheel. I like the taper on the spokes also. The next question is are you going to put a radius on all those ribs?
gbritnell
Hi George, thanks for looking in buddy. To answer you question I had wanted to make the tapers around the spokes after soldering but I got ahead of myself and before I realized it I had half the spoke cut. I had to taper the outside of the spoke before soldering and ended up with what you see. I will be taking a light cut on the inside tapers so there will be a small radius by the hub and at the end of the spokes. If I would of had my head right I would of left radius on them before soldering. Depending how well the reflow goes will tell if I rebuild it again.
Don
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Your flywheel is looking very good to me Don. As Bill said, I can't see anything from the photo. I hope you can get it repaired to your standards without having to re-do. Best of luck!
Kim
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Your flywheel is looking very good to me Don. As Bill said, I can't see anything from the photo. I hope you can get it repaired to your standards without having to re-do. Best of luck!
Kim
Thanks Kim I will need all I can get.
Don, Nice work on the flywheel and I will have to get one of those angle attachments for my Foredom machine.
I forged a ring of copper for a foundation ring for a boiler and I was wondering if there was some reason that you cut the joint at an angle? I used a radial cut and as I am sure you know it is really hard to make the ends meet with a close gap. I simply used a piece of sheet copper to bridge the gap and soldered both sides of the sheet.
Dan
Dan I am sorry for not answering your question. The reason for the taper is that they mate a lot easier and fit together well when I squeeze the two together in the vise. When I bend it with the overlapped I just cut across with the bandsaw and the cuts are the same.
Don
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I had a chance today to do the solder reflow. One of the reasons it went south yesterday was that I wasn't using enough heat. I needed fast concentrated heat for the reflow so I could just do spot soldering. It went well today and a relief. I do need a smaller burr to continue rounding the fillet in the corners of the spokes next to the rim.
Ok I have some photos but remember I am far from finish with the flywheel.
The first photo is after the reflow and it looks great.
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This is after some intense cleaning, grinding and lathe work.
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And you know I have to have a family shot. You will notice how different the brass on the flywheel look next the the rest of the engine. This is the patina that forms while in the doll case. I keep the cover on the engine when not working on it.
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That's all for today and I want to close saying that while I used a certain tip for the original soldering, in order to do a reflow to patch the solder. I need more hear in order to concentrate the heat where I need it the most without heating the complete flywheel.
Thanks for looking.
Don
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Don, Thanks for the explanation. Good to see that the reflow job worked well. That is some really nice brass work.
Dan
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That's beautiful Don; can't wait to see it all fettled and polished!
Yes it is surprising how fast clean brass and bronze will develop a nice patina.
Dave
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Very nice Don, I am sure you breathed a big sigh of relief when all went well today. Just as I suspected, the flywheel looks perfect with the E&A. Nice work Bud!!
Bill
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Hi Don,
Nice job on the re-braze. The engine sure is impressive looking with that wheel. Well it's impressive without the wheel but it just adds to it.
I'm still following along.
gbritnell
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Hi Don, nice job on the flywheel. This kind of reflow is not my favorite job, good to see that it worked quite well in your case.
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Great work on the fly wheel Don. Glad you were able to recover it.
The engine just keeps looking better and better!
Kim
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Well finally finished the flywheel between work and the time I had. This flywheel is a lot more work then I had hope for but it is what it is. I believe the reflow cost me more time then it should have. Anyway I have a few photo for you and I will be trying to complete the reminding items. The connecting links and making a few studs and nuts to enhance it's look.
This first photo is for you Bill as I know you,ve been waiting to see it, so enjoy my friend.
(http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg629/don1966/EASTERN%20ANS/image_zpskmxazynk.jpeg)
And some family shots for you so take a good look, as I will be absent for a while to complete the engine and make a video.
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That's all till I return with the completed engine and thanks for looking.
Don
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Wow Don! I just don't know what to say.
You have done an amazing job fabricating and finishing the flywheel; it is just beautiful!
Dave
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Regardless of the amount of work Don, its still a real beauty!!! :praise2: :praise2:
Bill
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Just read through the whole thread for the first time, absolutely amazing work.
Regarding the lathe drilling spindles (quite a few pages back), I seem to remember you using one that was attached to the vertical slide, could have been someone else? I have tried to find it again but failed.
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Wow, Don! That flywheel is amazing looking! You really did it up right! And the family shot is equally astounding! Gorgeous work
Don, simply gorgeous!
Kim
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That's stunning. Don, another gem, or should that be jewel? Cheers, Hugh.
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Hi Don, that's really a show case engine. Very nice pictures also.
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Dog, very rarely (as you well know ) am I speechless, but, that family shot has rendered me as such :NotWorthy: :wine1:. Some of us build working model engines, you build working model jewelry :ThumbsUp:. Oysters are on me, you buy the beer :lolb:
Cletus
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Superb work Don. Beautiful.
Regards,
Rudy
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Thanks all for looking in and your kind comments, I really appreciate it.
Just read through the whole thread for the first time, absolutely amazing work.
Regarding the lathe drilling spindles (quite a few pages back), I seem to remember you using one that was attached to the vertical slide, could have been someone else? I have tried to find it again but failed.
Nicolas thanks and I believe this is what your looking for. http://www.modelenginemaker.com/index.php/topic,1460.15.html
Dog, very rarely (as you well know ) am I speechless, but, that family shot has rendered me as such :NotWorthy: :wine1:. Some of us build working model engines, you build working model jewelry :ThumbsUp:. Oysters are on me, you buy the beer :lolb:
Cletus
Thanks my brother and your on and I have the oysters........... :cheers:
Don
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Sure is purty, Don. Really outstanding work!
Chuck
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Sure is purty, Don. Really outstanding work!
Chuck
Thanks Chuck for looking in and your kind comments. Your still one of my heros here with your inspiring work and eductional videos.
Don
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Well it has been a while since I reported in and figured I need to give you a peek at what I have done so far. I had one of those days where it didn't pay to even start working on it. I started to make the beam connecting links and just couldn't get it done so I shut it down for two days to chill out. But I do have some photo for you just a peek now.
This is the links all to short. I measured the length wrong the first time and calculated my lathe setup wrong the second time. Oh well!
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These are a few photos of what I have been up to.
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Keep in mind that there is still plenty to do here. I still have nuts to make as you can see in the photos on the piping and remake the links. I do have to complete the piping and then disassemble for the final clean up. The engine has been run in and once complete I will have a video for you but not until.
Thanks for looking.
Don
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Simply Stunning!!
Tom
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Don that is gorgeous!
Dave
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Some days it just don't pay to get out of bed bud. Sorry about the mishap but she sure is looking fine otherwise. As Tom says....simply stunning!!
Bill
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Couldn't agree more! Simply beautiful work Don! And it's only getting better!
Kim
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Hi Don, sorry about the mishap. We all have these days somtimes.
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Tom, Bill, Dave, Kim and Achim thank you for your continued support and kind comments. I am hoping to finish this coming week if things go like I want them to.
Don
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Bad luck with the faulty measuring device you accidentally used, better get that thing calibrated...
Looking good, Buddy, can't wait for more.
Joe
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As Cletus would say, "Day Yum!" :cheers:
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Thanks Kirk and Joe for following and looking in.
Bad luck with the faulty measuring device you accidentally used, better get that thing calibrated...
Looking good, Buddy, can't wait for more.
Joe
Joe i wish it were that simple but unfortunately I was eat up with what I can the dumb ass.
Well I am finally coming to a close on this engine. It is complete I been very busy with work and today was no exception. I did however managed to take the photos and have them for you. The video will be another day and should be after the Holidays. Anyway enjoy the photo because this project has been a challenge for me and I will continue to take more projects on that will continue to do so. I want to thank Marv, Jason, jo, Stew, Ramon, George and Chuck and all who have contributed to the forum unselfishly so we could learn from them and sharing of there knowledge. If not for them I would never have learned enough to take on such projects. I thanks all of you for your support.
Ok enough and here are the photos.
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Thanks for looking and following.
Don
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Exquisite Don,
What more can be said!
gbritnell
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Man simply beautiful you have done some nice work!!!
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Don, you have set the bar very high indeed.
Tom
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Don, she's just beautiful!
Dave
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One word Don:
STUNNING!
-Bob
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Very Nice! Thanks.
Hugh
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Oh man, that is gorgeous Don. Can't wait to see her running. What an amazing finish on all those brass parts too!! :praise2: :praise2:
Bill
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Hard to find another descriptor... what they all said!
Looking forward to the video.
Joe
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I cant find the words to decribe your build, im in total awe, so ill just say WOW!! :)
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Hi Don, a master piece. You have been followed very straight this polished brass style with success and you should be proud of it.
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Really stands out with that black background.
Vince
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Don, all I can do is add to the chorus of "Wow! Beautiful!"
You have really raised your bar on this one!
Kim
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Nicely done Don. Whats next :LittleDevil:
J
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That looks absolutely amazing :praise2: :praise2: :praise2:
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:NotWorthy: Very high wow factor - I hope (and expect) that it runs just as well as it looks :praise2:
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lovely work there, something that that i should aspire to, everything accurate and a lovely Finish The finishing of a model is so important, but rewarding........
Willy.
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Very beautiful Don, and as I well know, beautifully made as well. cheers, Hugh.
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Thanks all of you for your kind comments and your support. I really do appreciate all of you for you inputs and just following along. It really does help when building these engines.
I do hope you all had a very Happy Thanksgiving.
Don
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hi Don , can you give anymore info on the right angled drilling device you used on the flywheel......is it shop made or bought, and is it still available ?
What is your next project ? When i look at my finished models i always think Wow did i do that !! and also I don't know how i managed it !! good work I will enjoy seeing more bolting from your stable !
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Hi Willy and thanks my friend. The angle device is an attachment that goes with the Foredom hand piece H30 and is an angle grinder that I made an adapter for it to drill with. I am looking to put a Chuck on it though. You can get it here...http://www.foredom.net/ak69109.aspx
Don
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Dog, Dog, Dog, due to work, I'm just catching up. Don, that is beautiful, plain and straight up awesome. I ain't even gonna try and crack any jokes. Just a "craftsmanship museum " piece :NotWorthy: :praise2: :LittleAngel: :LittleAngel:.
Cletus
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Dog, Dog, Dog, due to work, I'm just catching up. Don, that is beautiful, plain and straight up awesome. I ain't even gonna try and crack any jokes. Just a "craftsmanship museum " piece :NotWorthy: :praise2: :LittleAngel: :LittleAngel:.
Cletus
Thanks my brother I know you have been very busy with the store. i really appreciate you checking in though...... :cheers:
Don
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Don - as you are aware I have been well AWOL for some time. When I replied to Jason the other day I caught this thread in the corner of my eye. I couldn't do it straight away but promised myself that before setting to work in my own workshop this week I would catch up on your thread first.
Well I've just sat and had a (very) extended coffee break and been right through again - all of it from page 10 or so completely fresh to my eyes - and what a pleasure that's been. I can only apologise for not sticking with it and kick myself for missing out on such a great thread.
Stunning result again Don - you really are a master :praise2: I can well imagine just how much it took to turn that flywheel into the finished result - absolutely beautiful. Exquisite detail work throughout too - that governor was worth a double take I can tell you ;)
Congratulations on producing yet another absolute gem for the stable :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp:.
Now - how about an all brass Waller Table engine ;)
Regards - Ramon
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Museum quality work, Don. Wonderful patience and attention to detail. Simply beautiful.
Chuck
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Ramon and Chuck I am indeed honored by your kind commects. A master no as I still have a long way to go before that, but thank you. I have posted the video and it is here http://www.modelenginemaker.com/index.php?topic=5561.new#new
Thanks for looking
Don
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Masterly work!
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Masterly work!
Thank you!
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I have somehow not seen this thread until now. (predates my membership) I have had to read through the entire thread, and
have learned so much, been much inspired but at the same time realised my own limitations.
Don, your work is outstanding in every aspect. I am in awe :praise2:
Thank you for such detailed posting
Regards Terry
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Now C’mon Dog; see how these old boys like your work. Trade them dancing boots for the shop ones and “polish “ us out another one of them brass beauties. :stickpoke: :stir:
Cletus
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Thank you Terry for you kind comments..
Now C’mon Dog; see how these old boys like your work. Trade them dancing boots for the shop ones and “polish “ us out another one of them brass beauties. :stickpoke: :stir:
Cletus
Hey Dog, yeah maybe soon still still kicking the dust off my shoes.
Don