Model Engine Maker
The Showcase => Vehicles & Models => Topic started by: Jasonb on September 01, 2016, 02:20:34 PM
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I came across this today, nice to see something that is not usuall modeled. He also has a lot of other logging related models in his other videos such as donkeys, logging locos and log boats.
[youtube1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWV1X6GYXXs[/youtube1]
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Nice find Jason. Very different for sure but seems to be an excellent runner.
Tom
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Now thats one I had never heard of - very interesting! According to wikipedia, its the first successful use of a continuous track vehicle in 1901. Also found this video of one in a New Hampshire museum:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAJ0mxp-8j8
Edit: And also found online plans at this museum site. Not detailed plan of the engines, but they look like standard double acting type.
http://www.maineforestandloggingmuseum.org/lombard-blueprints
and lots more details here
http://www.maineforestandloggingmuseum.org/lombard-log-hauler-resources
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That is definitely different but very interesting also. Could be a future project for you Chris :LittleDevil:
Bill
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These machines were also made in Wisconson under license. The Wisconson version was known as the Phoenix log hauler.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbzvnTdjkKw
Dan
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My friend Marvin Hedberg made a 1/2 size Phoenix a few years back.
Dave
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Very nice!! I grew up around "old time" logging, but I never seen one of those. It seemed that most Ontario loggers went right from horses to John Deere skidders.
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What amazing models!!! Having not seen these before I find the fascinating...think I would much prefer being the "engineer" though than the steering guy up front :)
Bill
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think I would much prefer being the "engineer" though than the steering guy up front
Our roads would be a lot safer if automobiles were designed that way with the driver sitting unprotected on the front fender. Might relieve the texting-while-driving impulse.
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That is definitely different but very interesting also. Could be a future project for you Chris :LittleDevil:
Bill
Way ahead of you! I was starting to look through the pics in more detail when the cable guy showed up next door and disconnected everything to replace the box!
:killcomputer:
I happen to have a second boiler that I made when I did the Gauge 1 loco a while back, had planned to make it into either a larger train or into some sort of truck someday. This would be perfect for it - make an RC version to driver around the yard! I have been looking for something unusual, not the same traction engine or whatever. They sold the rights to another company who made the Pheonix version, that has a pair of vertical twins, one on either side, like a double sided Shay - that would be REALLY fun!
:thinking:
Looks like it could be my next long-term project, have to download the plans and books and start drafting up a set of plans! The tracks will be interesting, have to make up some jigs to mass produce them - could always buy them from one of the rc-tank suppliers, but that would be no fun.
May have to see about getting to one of those museums next summer - always looking for a good excuse to go to Maine anyway! ::)
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Yep, I just knew that one would tickle your fancy Chris :)
Bill
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Yep, I just knew that one would tickle your fancy Chris :)
Bill
Oh yes! It just needs a trailer full of chocolate chip cookies...
Lots more research to do, hope to pull together some plans for a model. Looks like those sites have a ton of info.
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There are quite a few other videos of the model during construction so you can get an idea of how it went together.
If you like that sort of layout but would prefer wheels to tracks there is always something like the Avery traction engine
http://prestonservices.co.uk/item/avery-4322/
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There are quite a few other videos of the model during construction so you can get an idea of how it went together.
If you like that sort of layout but would prefer wheels to tracks there is always something like the Avery traction engine
http://prestonservices.co.uk/item/avery-4322/
Thats quite an interesting design too. I like the track setup, could always fall back to wheels if the tracks don't work out.
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I have done some time driving one of these, at the Owls Head transportation museum.
[youtube1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPJkkH3ELAA[/youtube1]
It is a real beast to steer on dry ground. The steering wheel shaft is vertical to a small gear that drives a large gear on the axle. We had a whistle cord that both the engineer and driver could pull, so we had signals between us.
I have always wanted to model one of these, but then there are a dozen things I want to model. I do have a drawing, and we found a nice parts manual on the web that shows all the parts.
Lombard invented the track idea. It was stolen by what became Caterpillar, and they lost some legal case, but never paid Lombard.
He did switch to gas engines for these, and there is one preserved in the Maine State museum in Augusta. It has a monster 6 cylinder gas engine, on essentially the same frame at the steam hauler.
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Very cool video! Great opportunity to drive that kind of machine.
I haven't dug into the details of the drive yet, but it looks like the two tracks always drive together, no differential action?
EDIT: Answering my own question - been going through the pictures and diagrams, and it DID have a differential mounted between the tracks.
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As I said earlier look at his other videos, you can see the diff in this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeDKCfVzYwY
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Yes, it was his videos and pictures where I saw it. Incredible workmanship!
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These videos are fascinating. It definitely wasn't a zero turning radius vehicle though was it?? :ROFL:
Bill
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Been reading through the articles from the museum website, the parts list document has amazing detail of all the parts of the hauler, not measured, but pleny good enough to recreate the parts given the measured arrangement drawings and the other info in the articles, pictures, and models. Think this is definitely my next big project! Just gotta finish my Corliss, and maybe a clock project I've been putting off for a while (small tower clock with a grasshopper escapement). Good to have several things all going at once. Oh yeah, and the lobster boat hull that I won in the raffle in Carmel, and updating the motor/radio in my Sabino model to get that back in the water. And finishing the polar bear carving.... And maybe one of those steam hammers... Gotta find some castings to fondle somewhere too... :insane:
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Been reading through the articles from the museum website, the parts list document has amazing detail of all the parts of the hauler, not measured, but pleny good enough to recreate the parts given the measured arrangement drawings and the other info in the articles, pictures, and models. Think this is definitely my next big project! Just gotta finish my Corliss, and maybe a clock project I've been putting off for a while (small tower clock with a grasshopper escapement). Good to have several things all going at once. Oh yeah, and the lobster boat hull that I won in the raffle in Carmel, and updating the motor/radio in my Sabino model to get that back in the water. And finishing the polar bear carving.... And maybe one of those steam hammers... Gotta find some castings to fondle somewhere too... :insane:
Chris............you sound like that cowboy who jumped on his horse and rode madly off in all directions :lolb:
Jim
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Been reading through the articles from the museum website, the parts list document has amazing detail of all the parts of the hauler, not measured, but pleny good enough to recreate the parts given the measured arrangement drawings and the other info in the articles, pictures, and models. Think this is definitely my next big project! Just gotta finish my Corliss, and maybe a clock project I've been putting off for a while (small tower clock with a grasshopper escapement). Good to have several things all going at once. Oh yeah, and the lobster boat hull that I won in the raffle in Carmel, and updating the motor/radio in my Sabino model to get that back in the water. And finishing the polar bear carving.... And maybe one of those steam hammers... Gotta find some castings to fondle somewhere too... :insane:
Chris............you sound like that cowboy who jumped on his horse and rode madly off in all directions :lolb:
Jim
I resemble that remark! :cheers: