Model Engine Maker
General Category => Chatterbox => Topic started by: steamer on August 12, 2019, 12:44:50 AM
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My 100 year old Simplicity Hit and miss 8 HP engine, purring as quietly as it ever has
6" bore 10" stroke
twin 42 inch sand balanced flywheels with 24" flat belt pulley
https://www.facebook.com/mcandrew.piper/videos/2363893313888061/
Stay tuned.....
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And Oh....I can start her with one hand...... 8)
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Hope it finds a caring home Dave. Very nice engine that someone will be proud to own and display.
Bill
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Hope it finds a caring home Dave. Very nice engine that someone will be proud to own and display.
Bill
That's the idea. Sitting covered in my back yard forever really isn't good for her. It was my dad's 80 years ago, he used that engine to cut cord wood and run a silo blower.....when he passed on, I got it...but i've lost the interest for engine shows. I have some plans for the proceeds, and at the same time, I'll find and qualify a good caretaker for her next 100 years perhaps.
Stay tuned
Dave
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Very nice engine Dave.
I have let a few of mine go and still have a few more that I would part with.
Dave
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Site unseen, full offer. Already put down a substantial deposit.
Next.....tomorrow, I go and look at the goodie I'm angling for myself.....
Dave
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That's great Dave. Looking forward to hearing more about tomorrow's goodie as well.
Bill
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1334019986798176/?ref=messenger_banner
This little gem. Built in 2005, I'm betting low hours as the boat it came out of fell off it's jacks in the yard.
It's the same size as just the engine in my plant, so another bench seat could go into my boat, and with nearly 8 HP, a canopy is no worry. Good for lake and canal cruising with my wife.....it's hard to pull into a marina 3 days into a cruise and ask for a few gallons of firewood ..or soft coal, and we'll have room for at least 2 other people now.
Time for her an I to have some fun in life too.....
Dave
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It does look exceptionally clean from the pictures!!
And yes on having fun while age and health permits!!
Bill
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It does look exceptionally clean from the pictures!!
And yes on having fun while age and health permits!!
Bill
And it's listed at about a liter per hour.....or about 4 hours per gallon....with 8 gallons in the bow, that's about 32 hours of cruising on a full tank.
At about 6 knots....that's 192 nautical miles on a 8 gallon tank or 24 miles per gallon.....better than my truck!
Dave
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Not being a boat person, is diesel fuel pretty common at lake/river marina's?
Bill
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Not being a boat person, is diesel fuel pretty common at lake/river marina's?
Bill
yes far more than wood or coal....
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How did the visit go Dave??
Bill
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Outstanding!.....pictures to follow....I am now a newly minted owner of a diesel marine engine!.... :lolb:
Whodathunk!?
Dave
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Congrats Dave. Now you will just have to get used to the different sound of diesel vs. steam. Your fuel and distance calculations make it pretty much of a slam dunk for doing some serious traveling. Looking forward to more updates.
Bill
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What are you planning to do with the Steam plant Dave? Keep it?
Its not as big as the Simplicity :thinking: but then again with the boiler it might be.
Jo
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What are you planning to do with the Steam plant Dave? Keep it?
Its not as big as the Simplicity :thinking: but then again with the boiler it might be.
Jo
Oh yes I'll keep it, I'll build another frame for the diesel plant so it can drop in. and I'll put the steam plant in storage.
She's a cute little thing.....
Dave
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Dave
Are you going to re-brand yourself? ;D
Pete
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"Mr M'Andrew, don't you think diesel spoils romance at sea?"
Maybe, but it's a lot more convenient,
Damned ijjit!
Lets have some photos of the launch, before you put the steam plant into store
MIke
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"Mr M'Andrew, don't you think diesel spoils romance at sea?"
Maybe, but it's a lot more convenient,
Damned ijjit!
Lets have some photos of the launch, before you put the steam plant into store
MIke
Man created boats to keep his engines dry!
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Here ya go Mike
Dave
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Hi Dave,
Beautiful boat. :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp: : That's going to be so much fun for you all. Old fashioned tea and cucumber sandwiches on the river bank.
Are you going to put the Yanmar in a tin box with a false smokestack to look just like the boiler? Just thinking aloud. :stir: :stir:
Mike
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Hi Dave,
Beautiful boat. :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp: : That's going to be so much fun for you all. Old fashioned tea and cucumber sandwiches on the river bank.
Are you going to put the Yanmar in a tin box with a false smokestack to look just like the boiler? Just thinking aloud. :stir: :stir:
Mike
Here's the problems to encounter:
It' hard to pull into a marina and ask for 300 pounds of dry hardwood cut and split to fit my grates....which are pretty small.
Sitting comfortably with said firewood is a bit cramped.
No sun set cruises without a light......
Just sayin
Dave
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Hi Dave,
Beautiful boat. :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp: : That's going to be so much fun for you all. Old fashioned tea and cucumber sandwiches on the river bank.
Are you going to put the Yanmar in a tin box with a false smokestack to look just like the boiler? Just thinking aloud. :stir: :stir:
Mike
The entire steam plant is on a common steel frame held into the boat with 6 threaded studs and some through hulls... Just pick it up and its out. I just need to build a new frame for the diesel. As the diesel is the same size as my engine alone, I should have some more seating room available ...perhaps 2 more.
Dave
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http://www.neme-s.org/The%20Construction%20of%20the%20Steamlaunch.pdf
theres a bit more information there I think about the build....
Dave
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Man created boats to keep his engines dry!
Man's ingenuity rever fails to impress. :ThumbsUp:
Just thought you could consider hiding the new diesel plant inside a box with a false smokestack so it looks like the old steam plant and continues to keep the characteristic look of a old time steam launch.
Mike
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Man created boats to keep his engines dry!
Man's ingenuity rever fails to impress. :ThumbsUp:
Just thought you could consider hiding the new diesel plant inside a box with a false smokestack so it looks like the old steam plant and continues to keep the characteristic look of a old time steam launch.
Mike
Nahhhhh.....doing that would make me a hypocrite!.....this just makes me a traitor!.... :lolb:
I originally designed this boat to take Steam, Gas or Electric, .....so wait few years, I may fill in the third one too!...
Dave
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Point taken.
Mike
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Point taken
Mike
Rushforth would look good in a burlap sack....LOL :lolb: She needs a canopy, so that is on the list of things to do...
Dave
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At least with the diesel, the boat will get some usage.
I once helped a friend (another Dave) re-caulk and rebuild the hull of an 90 year old steam launch. Lots of new timber had to be installed. It had a fire tube boiler, like yours, but it was coal fired. The engine was Stuart Turner 6A. On the first test run, we steamed out of Portsmouth Harbour into the Solent. Suddenly Dave realised he was out of coal and loosing pressure. Rather than make a SOS call to the coastguard to be rescued, he ripped out all the new mahogany seating and furnishings and fed them into the firebox. We limped back to the hard, got the launch back on the trailer and the rebuild started all over again.
Mike
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At least with the diesel, the boat will get some usage.
I once helped a friend (another Dave) re-caulk and rebuild the hull of an 90 year old steam launch. Lots of new timber had to be installed. It had a fire tube boiler, like yours, but it was coal fired. The engine was Stuart Turner 6A. On the first test run, we steamed out of Portsmouth Harbour into the Solent. Suddenly Dave realised he was out of coal and loosing pressure. Rather than make a SOS call to the coastguard to be rescued, he ripped out all the new mahogany seating and furnishings and fed them into the firebox. We limped back to the hard, got the launch back on the trailer and the rebuild started all over again.
Mike
Well....I'd a started by cutting off some of my own limbs first........ :facepalm:
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Well....I'd a started by cutting off some of my own limbs first........ :facepalm:
Well Both Dave and myself are built skinny, so that would not have got us very far. It had to be the new woodwork.
Mike
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Well....I'd a started by cutting off some of my own limbs first........ :facepalm:
Well Both Dave and myself are built skinny, so that would not have got us very far. It had to be the new woodwork.
Mike
I do hope there was a bottle of medicinal after that...... :censored:
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At least with the diesel, the boat will get some usage.
I once helped a friend (another Dave) re-caulk and rebuild the hull of an 90 year old steam launch. Lots of new timber had to be installed. It had a fire tube boiler, like yours, but it was coal fired. The engine was Stuart Turner 6A. On the first test run, we steamed out of Portsmouth Harbour into the Solent. Suddenly Dave realised he was out of coal and loosing pressure. Rather than make a SOS call to the coastguard to be rescued, he ripped out all the new mahogany seating and furnishings and fed them into the firebox. We limped back to the hard, got the launch back on the trailer and the rebuild started all over again.
Mike
Well....I'd a started by cutting off some of my own limbs first........ :facepalm:
I'd throw my passenger on the fire first... Had to row back in a mile or two when the wind died, always keep a pair of 'ash breeze' oars under the seats.
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Much shop cleaning and changing today and I got the yanmar in and on the bench ready for some work...mostly cleaning and checking.
The shop benefited from a good flush!...
6 bags of trash and a big box of stuff for sale shortly.....stuff I'll never use.
Dave
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6 bags of trash and a big box of stuff for sale shortly.....stuff I'll never use.
I normally find I need anything I get rid of within a month :-\
Jo
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Dave,
I was looking back at the photos of your boat, It's a beautiful piece of work. But it occurred to me that you may now need to change the watermark on your photos to Diesel... :lolb:
Art
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Dave,
I was looking back at the photos of your boat, It's a beautiful piece of work. But it occurred to me that you may now need to change the watermark on your photos to Diesel... :lolb:
Art
If Chief McAndrew had a chance to be on a ship that could "walk" faster on the late watch with a Diesel....he'd a done it!......
Actually, if you read the tag line...the passenger that complained about the loss of romance of the sea, was referring to STEAM engines taking over for sail!....he goes on to point out that he then has to crawl under the deck plates in the bilge to close rotating machinery to solve problems....which in his mind is just as heroic as climbing the mast!..
So NO. I don't need to change a thing......Man Created Boats to Keep His Engines Dry.
Dave
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Specifically....
"That minds me of our Viscount loon - Sir Kenneth's kin - the chap
Wi' russia leather tennis-shoon an' spar-decked yachtin'-cap.
I showed him round last week, o'er all - an' at the last says he:
"Mister McAndrew, don't you think steam spoils romance at sea?"
Damned ijjit! I'd been doon that morn to see what ailed the throws,
Manholin', on my back - the cranks three inches off my nose.
Romance! Those first-class passengers they like it very well,
Printed an' bound in little books; but why don't poets tell?
I'm sick of all their quirks an' turns - the loves an' doves they dream -
Lord, send a man like Robbie Burns to sing the Song o' Steam!
To match wi' Scotia's noblest speech yon orchestra sublime
Whaurto - uplifted like the Just - the tail-rods mark the time.
The Crank-throws give the double-bass; the feed-pump sobs an' heaves:
An' now the main eccentrics start their quarrel on the sheaves. "
Taken from "Mcandrew's Hymm" by Rudyard Kipling
Now he's not kidding....I watched the 80 year old Chief Engineer "Cookie" on the "John W Brown" reach in on the crank throws with his fingers to feel the crank pin bearing on the way by...to judge it's temperature....That was a 2500 HP triple....The crank pins are 16" in diameter ......and the cross head is about the size of a VW beetle and the engine stands about 3 stories tall.
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Vixen's post reminded me of the final voyage in "Around the World in 80 Days", where the wooden parts of the steamer were ripped off to feed the boiler so Fogg could land in time.