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Title: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: steamer on July 28, 2018, 07:07:23 PM
Thanks Mike!!!

Dave
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: b.lindsey on July 28, 2018, 08:48:07 PM
What, no pictures yet??  ;)

Bill
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: steamer on July 28, 2018, 09:46:07 PM
My Daughter and I took them to a car wash and cleaned them....they're drying....but maybe tonight....I spent the morning at work driving a mill with a .015" endmill in stainless...... :rant:
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: b.lindsey on July 28, 2018, 09:56:34 PM
 :o yikes!!!

Bill
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: steamer on July 28, 2018, 10:23:59 PM
:o yikes!!!

Bill


0.033" wide slot 0.025 deep and 3/8 long     10000 rpm.   .002"/tooth   2 flute carbide....with Kerosine
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: b.lindsey on July 28, 2018, 10:44:44 PM
Did you do it with just one endmill?

Bill
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: steamer on July 28, 2018, 11:20:37 PM
Did you do it with just one endmill?

Bill

YUP!!!!!    8)
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: crueby on July 28, 2018, 11:44:30 PM
Can you mill me a pocketwatch?! 

 :ThumbsUp:
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: steamer on July 28, 2018, 11:53:36 PM
Can you mill me a pocketwatch?! 

 :ThumbsUp:

NO!!!!!
  8)
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: crueby on July 28, 2018, 11:59:16 PM
Can you mill me a pocketwatch?! 

 :ThumbsUp:

NO!!!!!
  8)
:ROFL:
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: Dave Otto on July 29, 2018, 12:05:44 AM
You were fresh out of .02" end mills? :lolb: When they get down to that size you have to look twice at the end of the cycle to see if your cutter is still there!

Dave
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: steamer on July 29, 2018, 12:17:22 AM
You were fresh out of .02" end mills? :lolb: When they get down to that size you have to look twice at the end of the cycle to see if your cutter is still there!

Dave


Yes you do!!!  and a couple of times in the middle of the cycle too!....   Yes that was the only size I had....no .020"

Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: steamer on July 29, 2018, 12:22:45 AM
And you better be DAMN sure of your T0 and tool height....Always seems like I cant get that Z axis slowed down fast enough!....

 :lolb:


Dave
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: Dave Otto on July 29, 2018, 12:53:41 AM
Ordered one of these yesterday to put in front of my mill at home.
https://www.mcmaster.com/#6912t121/=1dwywt2
I have one in front of my VMC at work and love it!

Dave
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: steamer on July 29, 2018, 01:28:18 AM
I have the open pattern one in front of the Southbend, but chairs won't go over it.     However I got these today, and they'll go from the Aciera, past the Clausing and the watchmakers bench and down the isle to the edge of the lathe mat.     So  I think the office chair can stay.   I like to roll back and forth from the bench to the Aciera, as the Aciera is really made to be run while sitting for the most part.

Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: zeeprogrammer on July 29, 2018, 02:03:42 AM
Stupid question...

Can't one find shoes with anti-fatigue pads attached?  ;D
That's what I'd like to have.

With all the swarf generated...what are the downsides to anti-fatigue pads?

I ask because I'm about to re-layout my shop in an attempt to control the swarf (not that you can 100%).
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: steamer on July 29, 2018, 02:09:25 AM
Fatigue mats are magnets for swarf no matter what kind...they're soft enough to work, so the chips dig in.   If it's the mesh type, the chips fall through....it's easy to clean these, just raise them ,, shake them and then vacuum.


I've not found any shoes that work as well as mats.....Dave Otto....feel free to chime in here


As to chip control...or don't bring that *(@*(#* into the house!   control.    I have a boot mat on the stairs of my shop...go up one step, and you step on this matt which looks like a giant upside down brush.   Wipe the feet thoroughly...and proceed.   That works really well!...


Dave
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: zeeprogrammer on July 29, 2018, 02:16:07 AM
Thanks Dave. I'm working on a design that puts my machines at one end of my shop with the idea that the swarf that doesn't get on me is contained and I can brush off and change shoes as I enter/exit the other part of the shop. I don't expect 100% success but this would allow people to come in to that part of my shop that's not machine related.

I like the idea of the boot mat. I know what you're referring to. Even though I don't wear boots. It's not the safest thing, I know, but I wear loafers.
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: crueby on July 29, 2018, 02:29:02 AM
A vacuum with a brush end on the hose is handy for gently dislodging chips stuck in cloths and skin. Leather apron helps a lot too.
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: 10KPete on July 29, 2018, 03:24:11 AM
A good foot wiping mat at the exit of the shop keeps any chips picked up by my shoes from going any further. A bristle-y one is best.

Pete
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: steamer on July 29, 2018, 03:24:57 AM
A good foot wiping mat at the exit of the shop keeps any chips picked up by my shoes from going any further. A bristle-y one is best.

Pete
Works for me Pete!...
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: steamer on July 29, 2018, 03:15:43 PM
OK  laid them down this morning maximizing the coverage where I think I need it....

MUCH better on the legs!



I took a pic of the boot scraper mat that I use as well.....

Dave


Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: 10KPete on July 29, 2018, 03:43:30 PM
Just the ticket!

Pete
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: b.lindsey on July 29, 2018, 04:02:07 PM
Those should help a lot with the leg(s) Dave.


Bill
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: Art K on July 29, 2018, 09:32:09 PM
Dave,
Those are the floor mat's that I use in my home shop. For everyone else they are available at Home Depot. Since I moved the shop I need to get a few more, they come in packs of 4 and are 2 foot square. Yes the vacuum is good but also a pliers to pull out chips helps.
Carl,
As you probably noticed stuff fly's in the shop. At work I use a divider but stuff goes over the top and under the bottom, and shoes track it all over. Not that you are working with long strings of zink, but...The scrubby mats sound like a great idea.
Art
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: steamer on July 29, 2018, 09:36:22 PM
Dave,
Those are the floor mat's that I use in my home shop. For everyone else they are available at Home Depot. Since I moved the shop I need to get a few more, they come in packs of 4 and are 2 foot square. Yes the vacuum is good but also a pliers to pull out chips helps.
Carl,
As you probably noticed stuff fly's in the shop. At work I use a divider but stuff goes over the top and under the bottom, and shoes track it all over. Not that you are working with long strings of zink, but...The scrubby mats sound like a great idea.
Art

I tell you what Art....they work nice.   I'm much more comfortable out there...even with a compromised leg...Amazing how hard that floor gets

Dave
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: Vixen on July 29, 2018, 10:53:51 PM
Hello Dave,

I have those anti fatigue mats all over my workshop floor. I also have those mats with holes in front of each machine. The holy mats let the swarf bits fall through and they also act like shoe wipers. The combination is very easy on the feet and knees.

I also have a favourite pair of foam soled sandals which are in effect 'anti fatigue mat' shoes. Not much toe protection with sandals though.

Mike
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: kev on July 29, 2018, 11:23:52 PM
been looking at those interlinking mats in my "B&Q" hardware store Dave and seeing yours convinced me, the rubber mats I laid a few years ago are so bad and worn they are becoming dangerous plus my old legs and feet need some help
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: Tennessee Whiskey on July 29, 2018, 11:34:21 PM
You’ll love them. I think these are a bit softer than the ones with holes.

Cletus
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: steamer on July 30, 2018, 12:51:39 AM
YUP...I'm putting them all over the shop....though not now.

I'm going to blank that rod...maybe tonight....or at least this week.

Dave
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: ShopShoe on July 30, 2018, 02:10:54 PM
Shoes?,

You can't absolutely see it in my avatar, but why I chose this handle and what I show in the picture is that the soft soles of the shoes are absolutely full of chips stuck into the soft soles. And then I refinished the hardwood floors in the house and ....

I have not so far got the mats as I like to sweep the floor with a broom a lot. If I keep the dust and whatever swept up, then I can sweep up the chips after a session and save them for sale/recycling.

My leaving-the-shop ritual is: Sweep up Chips and make a nice small pile on the floor, Take stiff-bristle brush and get chips out of shoes onto floor, sweep into pile, use bench brush and dust pan to pick up pile for chip recycling or trash, depending on what I've been up to.

Then I have old doormats both inside and outside shop door which get vacuumed every so often.

Works for me at this point in time.

ShopShoe
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: Dave Otto on August 05, 2018, 03:47:24 PM
Here are a couple pictures of my new mill mat. The first pictures show the old set up. The larger thin mat was given to me by a friend many years ago; the a few years ago my brother gave me the super squishy one. While it was pretty comfy the swarf ended up destroying it.

I'm really happy with the new one, it is about the same height as the duck board in front of my lathe. The swarf sweeps and/or vacuums up easily.

Dave
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: steamer on August 12, 2018, 11:56:10 PM
I'm gonna try this for the lathe and the mills....the office chair is too low for any of the machines really

https://www.mcmaster.com/#4908t36/=1e4nxh1

Be here Tuesday.....    I'm going to start at 32"

Its apparent, that given the situation with the right leg/knee....something needs to change....

Dave
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: zeeprogrammer on August 13, 2018, 12:09:30 AM
All right. Enough of this.

All this talk about anti-fatigue mats...great.
But they're no good if they're not used.  ;D

Get in that shop!!!

Take some pics!!!

 :stickpoke: :stickpoke: :stickpoke:
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: Dave Otto on August 13, 2018, 12:18:31 AM
I hope that works out for you Dave.

Dave
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: steamer on August 13, 2018, 12:19:39 AM
All right. Enough of this.

All this talk about anti-fatigue mats...great.
But they're no good if they're not used.  ;D

Get in that shop!!!

Take some pics!!!

 :stickpoke: :stickpoke: :stickpoke:

Half hour at a time Zee.....
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: steamer on August 15, 2018, 02:10:30 AM
The Stool is in!   My son put it together while I was at work...got to sit in it at the machines tonight for a spell..It's just a touch high for the Aciera,   Perfect for the Clausing Mill, and about perfect for the Southbend.   I think i'm good there.  I think I'd like to have the back further back..   So I'll put some spacers on that and adjust....

Progress!

Dave
Title: Re: Getting some antifatique mats today
Post by: steamer on August 15, 2018, 02:12:06 AM
Oh  and the quality of this stool is very good.   All welded steel frame painting a pleasant green with a natural Birch wood seat and back.  Decent hardware ect.

Worth what they asked for it I think....
https://www.mcmaster.com/#4908t36/=1e4nxh1



Dave
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