Model Engine Maker
Supporting => Vehicles & Models => Topic started by: Graham Meek on December 30, 2016, 09:40:42 PM
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As this year draws to a close I thought you might like to see the progress on the Clayton Timber Wagon. While as far as I know no such example was built I thought I would indulge myself in some nostalgia. Timber extraction was the business of many small family firms in my area, so seeing modified Ex Army lorries moving timber about in the woods was an everyday occurrence.
The scale of the Clayton Timber Wagon is based around the Mamod Steam Wagon rear wheels, and works out at just over 1" scale.
Making the model has spawned a few new tools, "a squeeze riveter" (this is based on the differential screw principle) and "box turning tool" which in due course I will post under the tooling section.
My best wishes for the New Year,
Gray,
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That looks magnificent Graham!!!
Dave
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Very nice :praise2: :praise2: Is the crankcase cast or fabricated?
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Wonderful!
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You have been busy Graham! That looks fantastic!!!
Bill
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Beautiful Work!
Dave
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Wow! Beautiful bit of work! Put something in the pics to indicate scale, please. Amazing.
Pete
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This looks like another amazing model taking shape.
Vince
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Beautifull work Graham. Is your design based on Robin Dyers design ?
Is there any picture with the open crankcase available ?
It would be a pleasure to see the levers and links of the steering/timing.
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Hi Graham,
That is just lovely!
Like others here, do you have a build log? Would love to see how you built / are building it!
Its another on the "if I ever live long enuff list"
Cheers Kerrin
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Thanks everyone for the kind comments. Unfortunately there is no "build log", the photographs were originally intended to form part of an article, but I was let down on this so they just sit in my Clayton file. Here are a few more, the crankcase is a fabrication. I have "sand blasted", (not real sand, I use a media intended for the exterior of buildings), the exterior to simulate a casting. To give some indication of scale the Mamod Rear Wheel in the photograph is 76 mm or 3" diameter.
The length of the chassis is 419 mm or 16.5". The material used for the chassis is slightly over scale but I think it looks about right. I was surprised by how rigid the chassis is, I thought the choice of aluminium would mean there would not be much torsional stiffness, but I was wrong.
I would like to thank Phil P and Jo for their help during the build, the information they supplied helped a great deal.
My best regards
Gray,
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Very nice engine, looks very small if it is done at 1:12 scale, congratulation !
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Excellent work.....Well done indeed! Terry
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Gray
It just occurred to me that some of the readers will not be aware of what a Clayton undertype wagon looks like as there are no survivors.
I hope you dont mind me posting this, but here is a typical wagon from my photo collection, I think yours will look similar but with a different rear body to enclose the winch details for tree pulling.
(http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq286/pgp001/Vehicles/Various%20Traction%20Engines/Clayton%20Wagon/01_zpskf0qxlat.jpg)
Phil
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Thanks Phil,
I was hoping to add a photograph of the wagon to show what the prototype looked like, so you have saved me a job. As regards the rear body this I hope will be a short low sided platform where spare ropes and chains would normally be carried. Similar to the Foden shown below, but my winch will not be visible from this angle.
My best regards
Gray,
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Watching with interest! One of our family friends runs a Sentinel Waggon, so I'm eager to see the workings in miniature! :)
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DTR
Nice to see the correct spelling of "Waggon" when used in Sentinel context.
Who is the friend that owns one ?.......We used to have a 1928 Super Sentinel many years ago.
Phil
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The only problem will be that with the cab and wagon bed the details of the engine won't be visible.
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One thing I forgot to mention is that if anyone should want to add this to their Robin Dyer 2" scale version. Then the drawings I have made only need to be divided by 13.8 to give "Inch" dimensions at the correct scale. Admittedly they may need rounding up or down by the odd "thou" or two.
My best regards
Gray.
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I have been going through the file on the Clayton Timber Wagon and came across some photographs that may be of interest.
My best regards
Gray,
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Very nice workmanship Gray, thanks for sharing.
Thor
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Beautiful work Gray love the fabrication work..... :praise2:
Don
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Thanks Thor & Don for your kind words.
I intended to post the attached photograph last night, (having a Senior moment). This was the second winch frame that I made as I was not happy with how the first design turned out and it was a lot harder to make.
I have also found the final drive parts.
My best regards
Gray,