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Title: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: Tennessee Whiskey on June 10, 2013, 03:22:32 AM
Ok folks I've been holding out. A few weeks back I was joking with Lou and told her since I oversaw the rebuild of the store and brought it in under budget and ahead of schedule and we had a record setting month of April, I deserved a bonus and a new lathe would be just fine. Well, to my surprise she said; "Order It". She wasn't joking. Hot digidy dog. While still gasping for air I immediately sent a PM to one of our resident lathe experts for advice. Expecting to get a " look at so and so and think about this or that answer I was blown away when I got the amount of info I received. This old boy sent me side by side comparisons, looked at specs for bearing types, looked at owners manuals, and sent links to real owner websites for review. Had it not been for this very nice member here I'd either still be looking or wouldn't have made a wise purchase. After reviewing all the info presented we agree'd the Grizzly G4003G was the best for the bucks. It was delivered last Thursday and today my father and I took the front forks on the Kubota tractor and put it together. I've spent all afternoon wiping monkey snot and running all nine speeds ten minutes in each direction. I'm tired, happy and excited, but, tired. So, if you want to stop back in tomorrow I'll post some piccys and if any of y'all have run this lathe and know of any quirks I'd be thanking you for letting me know bout 'em. Think it's Bud time. And thanks again Pal.

Yalls Redneck,
Eric

Tha
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: Don1966 on June 10, 2013, 03:57:22 AM
Nice aquisition Eric, isn't it great to have a wife just say "order it"? Man what a woman you have bud. Hope you enjoy you new toy. Now you don't have any excuse to get back to work on that engine. Waiting on the photos here.

Don
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Post by: tel on June 10, 2013, 06:58:11 AM
ONYA Hillbilly! Lookin' forward to the pics! :ThumbsUp:
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: Jo on June 10, 2013, 07:02:16 AM
 :o You are making me jealous Eric...

I might need to buy another machine.  ;D

Jo
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: Maryak on June 10, 2013, 08:20:57 AM
Nice one Eric  :whoohoo: We are both blessed with wives who, if we really want something, don't erect barricades.  :NotWorthy:

I reckon, reading these forums, there are more Grizzlys in workshops than there are in the woods.  :slap:

Best Regards
Bob
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: Swifty on June 10, 2013, 09:30:28 AM
Checked out that lathe on the Internet, that's one nice lathe. I'm sure that you will have a lot of pleasure using it.

Paul.
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: Chris J on June 10, 2013, 10:10:59 AM
Exciting times Eric

Have a drink on me to celebrate.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: steamer on June 10, 2013, 10:54:41 AM
Pictures Please!

Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: zeeprogrammer on June 10, 2013, 11:39:23 AM
Congrats Eric.

Have you had a 'shoulda ordered a' moment?

Looking forwards to pics and a review.
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: b.lindsey on June 10, 2013, 12:06:23 PM
That's great Eric...can't wait to see it!!!

Bill
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: Captain Jerry on June 10, 2013, 02:53:15 PM
Eric

You are a wise man to ask first. You laid the justification and timed the request well.

I sometimes take the opposite course, which is to suffer the consequences. I have to do it that way because I'm a little weak in the justification department.

Lets see some pictures of it with swarf!

Jerry
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: Tennessee Whiskey on June 10, 2013, 05:57:44 PM
Thanks for stopping in and all the nice words. Yes, I Got me some real good learnings from the first wife and the second has been my dream boat, although sometimes she can turn it into a shipwreck  :Jester:.  I got y'all some piccys like I said I would.

Almost Home
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s658/tennesseewhiskey1/DSC_0232_zps6ac2bf97.jpg) (http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/tennesseewhiskey1/media/DSC_0232_zps6ac2bf97.jpg.html)

Home. Kinda leaning on leaving backsplash and lower skirt off. I like my view and I tink it will be easier to clean under.
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s658/tennesseewhiskey1/DSC_0237_zpscd60dd1a.jpg) (http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/tennesseewhiskey1/media/DSC_0237_zpscd60dd1a.jpg.html)

It's first oil change. Hold darn near 4 qts. as fer as I can tell.
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s658/tennesseewhiskey1/DSC_0239_zps00851296.jpg) (http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/tennesseewhiskey1/media/DSC_0239_zps00851296.jpg.html)

first swarf and finish on some scrapbinium
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s658/tennesseewhiskey1/DSC_0240_zps589ff291.jpg) (http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/tennesseewhiskey1/media/DSC_0240_zps589ff291.jpg.html)
(http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s658/tennesseewhiskey1/DSC_0241_zpsea0264db.jpg) (http://s1310.photobucket.com/user/tennesseewhiskey1/media/DSC_0241_zpsea0264db.jpg.html)

Yeah Zee gotta order some Seris 200 tool holder thingees for cut off and boring tools.
Couple of the little balls in the oil points just kinda vanished when I oiled it, y'all got any ideas on that little problem let me know before I call grizzy. Hey y"all Lou wants me to grill her a burger by the pool I think I better run fer now :lolb: :lolb:

Y'all come see us,
Eric
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: arnoldb on June 10, 2013, 06:02:00 PM
Somehow I'm feeling very envious all of a sudden  :'(

Nice one Eric - now you need to DO something with it  :thewhip: :LittleDevil:

Kind regards, Arnold
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: vcutajar on June 10, 2013, 06:18:48 PM
Congrats on your new toy Eric.  Enjoy it.

Vince
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: steamer on June 10, 2013, 06:21:08 PM
A series 200 QCTP would work well.   It works well on my Logan which is about the same size.

Glad your happy with it Eric.

Didn't understand your question though....what little balls?

Dave
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: Jo on June 10, 2013, 06:21:25 PM
Nice  :ThumbsUp:, and what gadgets did you get with it  :???:

Jo
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: Tennessee Whiskey on June 10, 2013, 07:42:36 PM
Thanks again. Jo, it came with steady and follow rest, 3 and 4 jaw chucks and a 10" face plate. I ordered a 5c Bison collet chuck also. Dave it came with a 200 QCTP, but only two straight holders. So, I got tat order a cut off tool holder, a boring bar holder, and possibly a knurling tool. The tailstock is 3 MT and all my good centers and keyless chuck is 2MT, but I bought a sleeve and may use it for awhile. It came with a key type chuck, but, I'm betting it ain't too swift and I've gotten used to the keyless. The little balls. These oiling points have what appears to have little spring loaded balls in them. I know they got a name, but ain't got a clue what kind ya call 'em. It came with a metal tip oil bottle and I assume you press down on the ball and squeeze. They all seemed to take oil fine except when I mashed down on these two the ball went out of sight and won't pop back up :shrug: let me know folks

Eric
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: b.lindsey on June 10, 2013, 08:00:41 PM
I like it Eric...a bit too clean though :)  And i must say that is a nice view out the window too...just be sure not to sling something out the back of the lathe and through the window :)

Bill
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: Dan Rowe on June 10, 2013, 08:27:22 PM
Eric,
Nice lathe, you should be able to make some fairly large parts with it.

This is the type of oiler you are describing:
http://www.gitsmfg.com/gits-oil-hole-covers-style-gb.htm

Dan
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: Mosey on June 10, 2013, 08:30:01 PM
Congrats, man, that's wonderful, especially the part where she said "order it" Was it the coat or the BMW she ordered?
Yer ole Bud down in Jersey,
Mosey
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: mklotz on June 10, 2013, 10:12:54 PM
Don't order the knurling tool for the QCTP.  Get a scissor knurler and save your lathe bearings.  Also, practice your skills by making an aluminum tool holder to hold a DI on center for centering stuff in the 4jaw.  (See my writeup on the subject.)  Remember how you made it and then you can reproduce it in steel for real tool holders.

I hate those oilers!  Have them on my lathe too.

With too pointy an oil spout the little (spring-loaded) balls can get trapped under the lip of the oil hole.  A dentist's pick will pop them out.  Buy an oil can with a hemispherical tip (or grind your own).  That seemed to solve the problem for me.
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: sshire on June 10, 2013, 10:40:44 PM
Nice nice nice!!!
I did the same thing with the oiler on day 1 with my new lathe. Tried every dental instrument that my brother gave me when he retired. No luck but didn't seem to hurt anything. The oil still goes in.
I'm looking at replacing them with oil zerks like on a Bridgeport.
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: mklotz on June 10, 2013, 10:51:49 PM
The only problem with zerks is that they don't lie flush so they tend to catch when you wipe down the lathe with a cloth.  (Or are there flush zerks?  "Flush zerks" - it sounds like Vegas slang.)
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: Tin Falcon on June 10, 2013, 11:11:59 PM
Good for you Eric glad to hear things are looking up. 
Tin
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: steamer on June 11, 2013, 12:17:23 AM
Gits oilers are readily available from Mcmaster Carr

Dave
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: Tennessee Whiskey on June 11, 2013, 01:31:36 AM
Thanks for the heads up on the oilers folks. Least I'm not the only one. Marv, I'm ahead of you. Have Ali stock and cold rolled for tool holders, but, at least for the cut off holder I'm going with the store bought stuff. I really do appreciate y'alls interest and comments. Now, a funny before I go. On my old SB the drum switch was behind the lathe and twice now I've reached to the light switch on the new lathe ( bout the same position) to turn the lathe off. Creature of habit, naw , just stupid :lolb: :lolb:

Eric
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: John Hill on June 11, 2013, 01:48:00 AM
So I guess the little oiler balls have dropped out of sight?  Depends on where they might have gone.... what balls have gone awol?

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Post by: sshire on June 11, 2013, 01:49:11 AM
There are flush zerks

http://www.saeproducts.com/flush-grease-fittings.html
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: Dave Otto on June 11, 2013, 02:13:24 AM
Hi Eric

Congrats on the new machine.

Dave
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: Maryak on June 11, 2013, 03:17:23 AM
In all but those areas where they would interfere with things, (e.g. cross slide nut oiler), I prefer this type, mainly because they're eunuchs.

(http://www.rdgtools.co.uk/acatalog/43984A.jpg)
I think they're called gravity feed oil cups

Best Regards
Bob
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: steamer on June 14, 2013, 10:52:47 AM
Chips Please!

 8)

Dave
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: zeeprogrammer on June 14, 2013, 11:03:41 AM
Chips Please!

He may be out of material. Got a message from him asking for his ring back.
It's either that or he feels I'm ignoring him.

I'm not ignoring him. I look for him everyday. Usually over my left shoulder.
 :ROFL:
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Post by: steamer on June 14, 2013, 11:07:16 AM
Wot Zee said! :lolb:

Yo northern Redneck!
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: Tennessee Whiskey on June 14, 2013, 11:54:34 AM
Ok you two, I'm not out of material. Comedic or metallic. So, y'all watch the post. I'm gonna send you both a nice Crown Royal bag of swarf. Now, I'm gonna warn you, it may look like a bag of very long springs, but, I promise it's just swarf. :lolb: :Jester: :naughty:. I gotta come up with a name for the new lathe. Thought about Bubba, but, that's what I call my mill and my dog and my motor sickle, and my tractor. It's a redneck thing :Jester: Catfish, now that's got a nice ring to it. :LittleDevil:

Y'alls Redneck
Eric
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: tel on June 14, 2013, 12:04:16 PM
Catfish guts - even better!
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: steamer on June 14, 2013, 01:09:29 PM
Ok you two, I'm not out of material. Comedic or metallic. So, y'all watch the post. I'm gonna send you both a nice Crown Royal bag of swarf. Now, I'm gonna warn you, it may look like a bag of very long springs, but, I promise it's just swarf. :lolb: :Jester: :naughty:. I gotta come up with a name for the new lathe. Thought about Bubba, but, that's what I call my mill and my dog and my motor sickle, and my tractor. It's a redneck thing :Jester: Catfish, now that's got a nice ring to it. :LittleDevil:

Y'alls Redneck
Eric

Ok with me as long as Steve Huck doesn't mind!
He was Bubba before bubba was cool! 8)
 :lolb:

Dave
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: zeeprogrammer on June 14, 2013, 01:16:13 PM
Call it 'chipster' or 'chip-meister'
'chip' aka 'chad' aka 'chuck' aka 'charles'.
Charles used to be my name.
So then you can get real personal with it.  :Lol:

Oh yes. Charles. Says so on my birth certificate. But it's crossed out and Carl is written.
When I was six, I was an unhappy boy because no one called me Charles. It was chuck, or charlie, or chip.
Parents changed it which upset my grandmother who never called me by name again.

Now I have even more names.  :Lol:
But never 'hey you'.
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: Tennessee Whiskey on June 14, 2013, 08:11:03 PM
To quote Charlie Brown, Yep the "old Chuckster". I like it Zee. Chuckster, kinda fitting for a lathe 8) that's it, a whole shop theme. Mill-Woodstock, SB-Snoopy, BeadBlast cabinet-Pig-Pen, rag barrel-Linus, tool grinder-Schroeder, drill press-Lucy, and I could call the whole shop Red Baron Engines. The heat may be getting to me, what do y'all think? :lolb: :lolb:

Eric

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Post by: mklotz on June 14, 2013, 09:46:31 PM
I call my mill "Cecil" because...

Cecil B. DeMille.

My dog's name is "Hamlet" because...

he's a Great Dane.

Try the meatloaf, folks.   
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Post by: zeeprogrammer on June 14, 2013, 11:49:27 PM
To quote Charlie Brown, Yep the "old Chuckster". I like it Zee. Chuckster, kinda fitting for a lathe 8) that's it, a whole shop theme. Mill-Woodstock, SB-Snoopy, BeadBlast cabinet-Pig-Pen, rag barrel-Linus, tool grinder-Schroeder, drill press-Lucy, and I could call the whole shop Red Baron Engines. The heat may be getting to me, what do y'all think? :lolb: :lolb:

Dad-blast it! I wished I'd thought of that for myself. The Red Baron stuff brings back a whole lot of memories.
Woodstock is great and so is Pig-Pen. Ha...Schroeder.
Yeah...go for it.

I need to start thinking of some names too. So far all we have is 'fleur-de-bog' for our backyard.
I had one for my shop...can't remember it though. Gotta work the 'zeepster' theme.
I don't like 'man-cave'. Implies no women. Women are always invited. Always.

Not that any come around.  :'(

Got plenty of names for afflications though...

Marv-itis: Drat....I cut the parent stock off too early.
Dave-itis: Form of tennis elbow - scraping.
Arnold-itis: Nah. I'll take the lazy approach.
Eric-itis: No time to machine...gotta grill.
Tel-itis: Can't decide on me headgear.

Don't mean to leave anyone off. I probably think of you all.

Zeepster-itis: I don't have it. I am it. Those that have it made the mistake of listening to me.
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: mklotz on June 15, 2013, 12:04:39 AM
Quote
Marv-itis: Drat....I cut the parent stock off too early.

My work here is done.

[I'm glad you remembered it.]

Quote
Eric-itis

Sounds like a painful inflammation of an intimate body part.  :naughty:
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Post by: steamer on June 15, 2013, 12:17:13 AM
I'm begining to be concerned about you two...... 8)

Dave
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Post by: Tennessee Whiskey on June 15, 2013, 12:56:26 AM
Mental instability is an art enjoyed by a select few. It allows releases of frustrations that would send normal people to a nut house. Zee, being of German lineage I think you should stay with the " Meister" theme. Marv, no inflamation here. A cold alcohol based environment is non conducive. Dave, don't wonder, experience. :lolb:

Eric
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Post by: mklotz on June 15, 2013, 12:59:18 AM
I'm begining to be concerned about you two...... 8)

Dave

That's OK.  We've worried about you for a very long time - almost the entire time before we gave up.
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Post by: steamer on June 15, 2013, 01:18:10 AM
I feel so much better now......
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Post by: Tennessee Whiskey on June 15, 2013, 01:46:56 AM
See, all ya gotta do is just relax and accept it. My threads turn into such uplifting experiences I think Zee, Marv, and I should be named " Global Morale Moderators" :lolb: >:D :old:. Y'all take ya shoes off and sit a spell, I got some good pig me coming off the pit and the beer is cold. TGIF

Eric
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Post by: Maryak on June 15, 2013, 04:05:03 AM
Seeing as how it's a Grizzly...........why not...........The Bear or Rupert or Winnie or Mishka or..................... shut up Bob.

(http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo340/Maryak/Safety.jpg) (http://s389.photobucket.com/user/Maryak/media/Safety.jpg.html)
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Post by: tel on June 15, 2013, 09:08:22 AM
.. or even (wait for it)

....DROP
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Post by: steamer on June 15, 2013, 09:46:19 AM
Tel....please don't put off your beauty sleep over those...... 8)

I like Chuck......or  Yogi...or even   Booboo!

Hey Booboo...that's a nice pickanick basket there!

Yup   Booboo! :ThumbsUp:

Dave
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: Tennessee Whiskey on June 15, 2013, 10:55:02 PM
Ok folks, thanks for all the name suggestions. I really think at this time I'm gonna go with Steamer's suggestion; BooBoo Bear. It is a Grizzly as Bob pointed out and I'm sure there will be plenty boo-boo's made on it. :lolb:  Zee, feel free to use the Charley Brown theme there Chuckster. See y'all now, I gotta go check on Bubba 8)

Eric
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: steamer on June 15, 2013, 11:14:11 PM
OK!

When's Booboo gonna show some chips!

 8)
Dave
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Post by: Tennessee Whiskey on June 16, 2013, 12:32:44 AM
Well Officer Obie, by Monday noon you will have 27 8x10 full color glossy portraits with circle and arrows on the back explaining what each and everyone was. Hey Mosey, join me on the " Group W " bench :LittleDevil:. Now, if you care to adjust your dials to my build thread I'm gonna tell y'all a little tale bout some Boca bearings. Lots of good programming coming up from WREDNECK in Tennessee, MEM on your computer dial :lolb:

Eric
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Post by: Don1966 on June 16, 2013, 03:16:14 PM
OK Yogi and Boo Boo I will be adjusting my Dial just awaiting.  :lolb:  by the way I will also be eating crawfish today.  :cheers:  :stir:

Don
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Post by: zeeprogrammer on June 18, 2013, 10:18:04 AM
I'm glad you went with Boo-Boo instead of Yogi.
Boo-Boo is a much more responsible fellow.
I believe Ranger Smith would agree.
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Post by: Tennessee Whiskey on June 18, 2013, 11:03:38 AM
Thanks, Chuckster. I'm gonna let Dave and Don1966 have Yogi and Ranger Smith. This will also free up the Peanuts theme for you. Thanks for stopping in now ya heah.

Eric
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Post by: zeeprogrammer on June 18, 2013, 11:52:16 AM
Thanks, Chuckster. I'm gonna let Dave and Don1966 have Yogi and Ranger Smith. This will also free up the Peanuts theme for you. Thanks for stopping in now ya heah.

Eric

You talking to me?  ^-^

No Chuckster here. Although many of my parts do get chucked.
Haven't been able to make any parts lately. Perhaps I should go with 'zipster'.
Nah. That could stick too.

And for those who remember...I haven't found any peanuts lately either.  ;D
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Post by: b.lindsey on June 18, 2013, 12:37:54 PM
No peanuts Zee???  Well....given the tone of this thread....have you seen any bears go over the mountain?   :lolb:

Bill
Title: Re: A New Lathe. Oh Yeah!!
Post by: mklotz on June 26, 2013, 10:12:21 PM
In my reply above (#20), I mentioned the type of oiler I use with great success against those annoying spring-loaded ball oilers.

Since this seems to be a recurring question, I took the opportunity while in the shop today to take a photo of the tip...

(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j234/mklotz/tools/OILER-1_zps07f9698a.jpg) (http://s81.photobucket.com/user/mklotz/media/tools/OILER-1_zps07f9698a.jpg.html)

The hemispherical tip depresses the ball and simultaneously makes enough of a seal around the lip of the ball hole to allow all the oil coming from the oiler to squirt into the hole and not all over the area surrounding the hole.

I also shot the label on the oiler

(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j234/mklotz/tools/OILER-2_zps7aaab997.jpg) (http://s81.photobucket.com/user/mklotz/media/tools/OILER-2_zps7aaab997.jpg.html)

although I suspect that there are many firms making something very similar.

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