Model Engine Maker
The Showcase => Shows => Topic started by: Jo on October 02, 2015, 07:53:10 AM
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Two weeks to go to the midlands show :pinkelephant: I was just wondering who else might be going. I will be there on Friday.
Does anyone want to meet up for a coffee and chin wag like last year?
Jo
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I'm going, my first break for nine years. Booked a room nearby and going up on wednesday night for thursday.
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I'm going, for the first time in a good few years, on Thursday.
Andrew
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I'm also going on Friday.
Andy
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Hi
Me and my mate Julian are making the annual pilgrimage but probably Saturday.
Cheers
Rich
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I hope to be there on Sunday,
My best regards
Gray,
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I'm planning on going on Friday.
Jo, Do you have any more Cowells bits to part with :LittleDevil:. The collets I had from you last year have worked great. :)
Colin
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Sorry Colin, Sco now has C1 and all her accessories. I am pleased you found those spare collets useful :)
I still have C2 sitting in the library ready for use when the weather turns nasty ;)
I have not yet identified any casting sets that I might need to bring home with me from the show, just a few fastners and see if I can find a supplier of eccentric straps for the Stuart triple, so the shopping list is a bit short :noidea:
Jo
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Jo, I knew you had parted company with C1, but it was worth a try. :)
I think I'll be visiting Machine-DRO. Another set of magnetic scales, this time for Cowells Lathe. They will be fun to fit.
Colin
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Just in case anyone hasn't spoken up: My plan is to be sitting in the lunch/seating area near to where they run the traction engines outside just before 12 (so we get a seat) with some spare cakes :naughty:
Jo
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Hi Jo, I'll look out for you at 12ish.
Andy
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May I join you.
Alan.
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We had a lovely day at the show and met at least 8 other forum members. :whoohoo:
However they failed to eat all the cakes :( Did I bring too many :shrug: I ended up giving them to my favourite traders (you never know when you might be able to wangle a discount :naughty: ) And still I took some home so I will have to see if they go well with some :wine1:
Photos to follow when I get chance to reduce their resolution a bit ;)
Jo
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Jo,
Good to see you again. I think I should have come and eaten cake. It would have been a lot lot cheaper.
Colin
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Hi all,
Visited the Midlands show for the first time for Thursday and Friday and found it was an extremely good show.
Got to meet Jo and some of her colleagues but didn't notice any cakes.
All round a very good time and gained a lot of useful information plus emptied my wallet a bit with a VFD system for my Myford.
Will certainly try to go to more shows through the year.
Mike
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Got to meet Jo and some of her colleagues but didn't notice any cakes.
Missed one :facepalm:. Sorry Mike because of the big sign that said thou shall not eat food that wasn't brought at the kiosks we had them hidden in my bag.
A few pictures. First off a pair of Hanning ploughing engines a Hanning BB and a Hanning BB1.
And a must have bedroom window sill ornament :naughty:
Jo
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I took the opportunity to get a couple of photos of the Otto 1895 engine on LA services stand. I think it is suffering from having to travel between shows.
And some of their other engines.
Jo
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There was a very interesting variation on the Kiwi mk I /Kittiwake sitting in a Hydroplane :Love: You can clearly see that the owner has been tweaking it to try to get more power out of the engine 8)
And there were some other nice boat engines.
Jo
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Jo
I think you are a tad harsh on John Hainngs Fowler Plough designs, there is a difference between an exact scale model of any engine, and one that makes compromises to facilitate the practicality of use or ease of construction.
Because a designer takes a more practice view in the drawings takes nothing away from a very fine finished model that any model engineer would be rightly proud of.
It might be wise to remember 20 or 30 years ago we relied on published designs to make our models, as there were no computers with programs were you can turn an engine inside out and look up its rear end, as is the case now.
We look forward to the day when you finish your version of the Fowler, but beware the rivet counters?
Mike
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Jo
I think you are a tad harsh on John Hainngs Fowler Plough designs, there is a difference between an exact scale model of any engine, and one that makes compromises to facilitate the practicality of use or ease of construction.
The Hanning BB design is 50 years old and I understand Colin Tyler's son was having the engines redrawn because it was not a "beginners engine". I don't know how far he got with it.
Don't worry I am rivet counting all of the features on my engine: Mine will be a model of a Fowler BB1 and is based on my own (initially hand drawn drawings) scaled from a full sized engine and the works drawings.
Jo
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Jo
I fully understand your comments about the Haining designs, and pretty much all of his drawings had faults or compromises in some way. And for those reasons I personally would not want to build one either.
I am a design engineer by profession, and it really p's me off when someone casually looks at a finished job and comes out with a comment like "Oh I wouldn't have done it like that", but that fact is they wouldn't have been able to do it at all , and just take delight in passing criticism.
That said, just go back and have another look at those model ploughing engines and tell me what a lovely job the builder has made of them, even though you wouldn't have done it quite like that.
I have only seen the photo's, but surely they deserve some complements on the build quality and finish, dont forget that unless like yourself you are very familiar with the finer details of the original, most people will see a very nice model ploughing engine.
Phil
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I have only seen the photo's, but surely they deserve some complements on the build quality and finish, dont forget that unless like yourself you are very familiar with the finer details of the original, most people will see a very nice model ploughing engine.
The fact that I posted them first of all the photos I took indicates my appreciation of the skills of the model maker.
But no single model can stand above another: All of the items displayed have been constructed with love and the attention that their builders were capable of, and each shows that their builders are not only proud of their finished model but willing to let their models be displayed at the show to inspire others.
Jo
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I think that back in the day it took a ploughing engine to drag a 12 bottom plough. I don't think that an early American tractor could have done it. Lovely models with a ton of work each. Thanks for the pictures, Jo.
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I'll add pictures of engines that I took at the show....
Bentley BR2
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5735/22238157296_f658bf3c17_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zT7np7)
Bentley BR2 (https://flic.kr/p/zT7np7) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Bremen Hot Air Engine
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/606/21643177973_dedf082687_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/yYwWLV)
Bremen Hot Air Engine (2) (https://flic.kr/p/yYwWLV) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5635/22076468128_92518c9554_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zCPEQQ)
Bremen Hot Air Engine (https://flic.kr/p/zCPEQQ) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Economy Gas Engine
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/648/22264211465_31630e6013_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zVpUoV)
Economy Gas Engine (https://flic.kr/p/zVpUoV) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Freelance V Twin Hot Air Engine
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/614/22076158740_64dcc782f1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zCN5Sy)
Freelance V Twin Hot Air Engine – Papilio (https://flic.kr/p/zCN5Sy) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Galloway Non Dead Centre Engines
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/641/22076432848_35fbaa1005_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zCPumy)
Galloway Non Dead Centre Beam Engine (https://flic.kr/p/zCPumy) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/753/22238133606_d7d1ceed61_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zT7fmE)
Galloway Non Dead Centre Beam Engine (1) (https://flic.kr/p/zT7fmE) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Georginas
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/590/22076422418_25c1929501_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zCPrfJ)
Georgina (https://flic.kr/p/zCPrfJ) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5662/22077323589_ea3f4de7a8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zCU49a)
Georgina (https://flic.kr/p/zCU49a) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Junior
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/625/22238096646_87ce038340_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zT74nq)
Junior (https://flic.kr/p/zT74nq) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Monarch
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5704/22251278912_2a52f7a1e4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zUgBZS)
Monarch Vertical Steam Engine (https://flic.kr/p/zUgBZS) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Fowler Ploughing Engines
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5794/21643059913_4d2c737723_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/yYwkFp)
Pair of Fowler ploughing engines with 6 furrow balance plough (1) (https://flic.kr/p/yYwkFp) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/721/22077247629_7909e66bf6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zCTEyv)
Pair of Fowler ploughing engines with 6 furrow balance plough (2) (https://flic.kr/p/zCTEyv) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/616/22264101135_8a9132998f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zVpkAF)
Pair of Fowler ploughing engines with 6 furrow balance plough (3) (https://flic.kr/p/zVpkAF) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/608/22251251772_f75c37aef9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zUgtVW)
Pair of Fowler ploughing engines with 6 furrow balance plough (7) (https://flic.kr/p/zUgtVW) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5769/22251246972_b90e9c3bc1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zUgsvb)
Pair of Fowler ploughing engines with 6 furrow balance plough (9) (https://flic.kr/p/zUgsvb) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Pioneer
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5723/22251243662_4a3d69d5b7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zUgrw7)
Pioneer (https://flic.kr/p/zUgrw7) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Redwing driving a saw
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/726/22251241052_f6d6533a8f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zUgqK7)
Redwing (https://flic.kr/p/zUgqK7) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Alyn Foundry RLE
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/742/22077201119_9806532d1b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zCTqJB)
Alyn Foundry RLE Stationary Engine (https://flic.kr/p/zCTqJB) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5720/21643014003_03f53d0eb8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/yYw72R)
Alyn Foundry RLE Stationary Engine (https://flic.kr/p/yYw72R) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5663/21643016363_54a110bebf_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/yYw7Jx)
Alyn Foundry RLE Stationary Engine. (https://flic.kr/p/yYw7Jx) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Robinson Hot Air Engine
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/772/22264052675_7eca6c4f2e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zVp6ca)
Robinson Hot Air Engine (https://flic.kr/p/zVp6ca) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Rootes Diesel Engine
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/763/22264049605_04d8a10250_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zVp5he)
Rootes Diesel Engine TS3 under construction (https://flic.kr/p/zVp5he) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/641/22077187249_6f450c9fac_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zCTmBt)
Rootes Diesel Engine TS3 under construction (https://flic.kr/p/zCTmBt) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Andy
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The final batch of my photos.
Stuart 10H
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/573/22274525321_74b3e03a70_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zWjLm2)
Stuart 10H (https://flic.kr/p/zWjLm2) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Stuart 10V
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/714/22264034145_46ff33a3d5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zVoZFF)
Stuart 10V (https://flic.kr/p/zVoZFF) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Stuart D10
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/644/22075985910_b54f2ab980_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zCMcuJ)
Stuart D10 (https://flic.kr/p/zCMcuJ) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Stuart No 9
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/658/22075984090_d1d3ccc559_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zCMbXm)
Stuart Number 9 (https://flic.kr/p/zCMbXm) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Stuart Sirius
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5819/22264024705_deff0f7469_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zVoWSV)
Stuart Turner Sirius (https://flic.kr/p/zVoWSV) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/578/22077166809_ffca3047d1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zCTfx4)
Stuart Turner Sirius (https://flic.kr/p/zCTfx4) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Stuart Swan
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5689/22251173032_af90beb969_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zUg5wm)
Stuart Turner Swan (https://flic.kr/p/zUg5wm) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Tempus Fugit
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/599/22251169752_6fe51ae68c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zUg4xN)
Tempus Fugit Hot Air Engine (https://flic.kr/p/zUg4xN) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Rider Ericsson Hot Air Engine
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5780/22237999226_ed951edccd_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zT6ypL)
Three inch scale Rider Ericsson Hot Air Pumping Engine (https://flic.kr/p/zT6ypL) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/774/22264072295_6a8f1d0739_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zVpc2r)
Three inch scale Rider Ericsson Hot Air Pumping Engine (https://flic.kr/p/zVpc2r) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Twin Compound Condensing Steam Engine
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/723/22263998715_6727e28101_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zVoP9P)
Twin Compound Condensing Steam Engine (https://flic.kr/p/zVoP9P) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5737/22075948850_664ffb5293_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zCM1tL)
Twin Compound Condensing Steam Engine (https://flic.kr/p/zCM1tL) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/737/21641256244_effed0c174_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/yYn6vE)
Twin Compound Condensing Steam Engine (https://flic.kr/p/yYn6vE) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5646/22077132669_03f6c9efeb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zCT5or)
Twin Compound Condensing Steam Engine (https://flic.kr/p/zCT5or) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/718/22076232768_2fb6e3149a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zCNsSU)
Twin Compound Condensing Steam Engine (https://flic.kr/p/zCNsSU) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Twin Cylinder Vertical Steam Engine
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/750/22274467821_6be62fb141_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zWjtfD)
Twin Cylinder Vertical Steam Engine. Builder unknown. (https://flic.kr/p/zWjtfD) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Vertical Boiler
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/780/22077118809_2b9d6264a1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zCT1gt)
Vertical Boiler (https://flic.kr/p/zCT1gt) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5787/22076217588_d0f2a3bf83_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zCNonb)
Vertical Boiler (https://flic.kr/p/zCNonb) by Andy (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764188@N08/), on Flickr
Andy
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Hi everybody, thanks for sharing all these pictures. Some very well done models.
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Thanks Andy, good mix of models there, I like that compound twin marine engine.
J
PS thanks for yours too Jo
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Hi Jason, my main interest is the stationary engines but there were many fine railway locos and traction engines at the show.
It was stated that the Twin Compound Condensing Steam Engine castings were by 'Historic & Model Reproductions'. I wanted to find out more about the model however, I can't find the castings or further information on the Internet.
Andy
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It looks like the engine published in 1923 in ME.
Here you go: http://www.modelenginemaker.com/index.php?topic=3650.0
Jo
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Yes both from the same castings and as Jo says based on the 1923ME series, though I quite fancy doing the 1924 design which could probably be done without castings
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Jo
Quote ‘And a must have bedroom window sill ornament’ is a disparaging remark about a fellow model engineers work, and not the kind of comment called for, especially from a so called moderator.
If any one of us described one of your models as an ornament I think you would not be pleased.
The joy of this site is it is open to all to share their work.
Mike
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Mike to be fair to Jo I think that was a comment to a few of us that know she has been measuring up her window cills to see if she can get a plough to fit, think the last time I was down at hers I pointed out its too wide. Probably did not come across that well to the casual reader.
J
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Yes as Jason said the other members from the Stratfield Saye traction engine group know it is point of amusement among them that I am looking to keep my balance plough when it is finished on my bedroom window sill. The problem is that it is will be 1" too wide for the existing sill and I am a little concerned about it scratching the glass when it is lifted up and down.
But what a view to wake up to every day :whoohoo:
Jo
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Thanks for posting the photographs. Some really outstanding models there.
--Tim
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Dear Andy.
Many thanks for posting the pictures, some really nice models !!
Nice to see one of mine so well presented.
Regards, Graham.
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Nice stuff, I should make more of an effort to go again one day. I always wish I had the event!
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A very extensive collection of photos linked to in Harry Wilkes post in this thread (http://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=103007&p=133) over on ME
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Still resizing :killcomputer:
Jo
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Thanks all for the great pictures of the show. Quite a nice venue it seems and a wonderful assortment of some very nice engines, tractors, etc. Wish we could see some of the members that were in attendance though too :)
Bill
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Quite a good video of some of the engines in action posted by a chap with a similar name to me part way down this page
http://modeleng.proboards.com/thread/10963/midlands-exhibition-15th-18th-october?page=3