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Supporting => Engine Ancillaries => Topic started by: Brian Rupnow on March 27, 2014, 11:18:02 PM

Title: Big Flywheel--Little Chuck
Post by: Brian Rupnow on March 27, 2014, 11:18:02 PM
This post isn't going to dwell on anything new or marvelous. However, some may find it interesting. I want to increase the diameter of the flywheel on the opposed piston engine I designed and built. I had originally built it with a 3 7/8" diameter flywheel, but found that it wasn't heavy enough. I had built in constraints that kept me from making a larger flywheel at the time, so I made it much thicker instead. This helped, but although the engine now runs, it still doesn't run as slow as I would like. I decided to keep the original flywheel, but add a 3/4" thick x 6" diameter ring to it, as the models show. Now what makes this interesting is that the largest diameter I can hold in my chuck is 4 1/4". This post will show how I managed to get around that obstacle.
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(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn294/BrianRupnow/BrianRupnow013/FLYWHEELADDEDWEIGHT_zpsff9981db.jpg) (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/BrianRupnow/media/BrianRupnow013/FLYWHEELADDEDWEIGHT_zpsff9981db.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Big Flywheel--Little Chuck
Post by: Brian Rupnow on March 27, 2014, 11:26:58 PM
My lathe is listed as being a 10" x 18", and although the chuck capacity is rather limited, it did come with a 9 1/2" faceplate that I have seldom used. I decided I could do my machining by utilizing the faceplate--the only issue was centering everything. The faceplate has a machined 50mm diameter center hole in it.  The piece of laser cut plate that I purchased was 6 1/16" o.d. x 2 13/16" inner diameter.  I decided that by machining a piece of 5/8" aluminum plate so it would be a "precision" fit in the faceplate, and also a "precision" fit in the steel blank center hole, that would get the plate centered for a start.
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Title: Re: Big Flywheel--Little Chuck
Post by: Brian Rupnow on March 28, 2014, 12:01:20 AM
This was the piece of laser cut mild steel plate. I went to 3 shops for quotes. One shop wanted $42, one shop wanted $20, and one shop said they would trade it for the design of a couple of metal saw horses. (which took about half an hour.)
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn294/BrianRupnow/BrianRupnow013/FLYWHEELSTUFF001_zps6cf08a04.jpg) (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/BrianRupnow/media/BrianRupnow013/FLYWHEELSTUFF001_zps6cf08a04.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Big Flywheel--Little Chuck
Post by: Brian Rupnow on March 28, 2014, 12:05:28 AM
I didn't want to mount the plate directly to the face of the faceplate, because I wanted to machine a clean up of the outer diameter of the plate but not cut into the faceplate. I was fortunate enough to have some 0.100" aluminum plate laying around, so I sawed it out to act as a spacer between the flywheel to be and the faceplate.

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn294/BrianRupnow/BrianRupnow013/FLYWHEELSTUFF002_zps5498da6e.jpg) (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/BrianRupnow/media/BrianRupnow013/FLYWHEELSTUFF002_zps5498da6e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Big Flywheel--Little Chuck
Post by: Brian Rupnow on March 28, 2014, 12:07:22 AM
This let me get the plate mounted on the faceplate, centered, with an aluminum spacer behind it.
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn294/BrianRupnow/BrianRupnow013/FLYWHEELSTUFF003_zpsc2dc0193.jpg) (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/BrianRupnow/media/BrianRupnow013/FLYWHEELSTUFF003_zpsc2dc0193.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Big Flywheel--Little Chuck
Post by: Brian Rupnow on March 28, 2014, 12:11:37 AM
Now I was able to clean up the outer diameter without cutting into the faceplate, and still have everything centered. There was a fair bit of run-out in the laser cut plate, but it totally cleaned up at about 6.014" diameter. I had specified that it be cut to 6 1/16" diameter to allow enough for the clean up machining to still leave me a full 6" diameter part.
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn294/BrianRupnow/BrianRupnow013/FLYWHEELSTUFF005_zps4cded23f.jpg) (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/BrianRupnow/media/BrianRupnow013/FLYWHEELSTUFF005_zps4cded23f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Big Flywheel--Little Chuck
Post by: Brian Rupnow on March 28, 2014, 12:15:17 AM
By reaching in from the far end of the hollow headshaft I was able to "pop" out the aluminum centering plate, thus leaving access to bore the center out to where I want it. The laser cut plate is still centered, as the four bolts which are holding it in place on the faceplate haven't been loosened off to remove the centering plate.

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn294/BrianRupnow/BrianRupnow013/FLYWHEELSTUFF006_zps67e10d75.jpg) (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/BrianRupnow/media/BrianRupnow013/FLYWHEELSTUFF006_zps67e10d75.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Big Flywheel--Little Chuck
Post by: Jack B on March 28, 2014, 01:54:29 AM
Hi Brian, That's a nice job of using what you have on hand to solve a problem.                                   Jack B
Title: Re: Big Flywheel--Little Chuck
Post by: Brian Rupnow on March 28, 2014, 02:09:12 PM
One could say that I've just had a very boring morning--------------
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Title: Re: Big Flywheel--Little Chuck
Post by: Brian Rupnow on March 28, 2014, 04:12:54 PM
So--There we go!! All "Easy Peasy, lemon squeezy!" Will it make the engine run slower/better? That remains to be seen. According to flywheel theory it definitely should. This afternoon I will find out.
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn294/BrianRupnow/BrianRupnow013/ADDEDWEIGHTFLYWHEELDONE001_zps76b6e3b0.jpg) (http://s307.photobucket.com/user/BrianRupnow/media/BrianRupnow013/ADDEDWEIGHTFLYWHEELDONE001_zps76b6e3b0.jpg.html)
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Title: Re: Big Flywheel--Little Chuck
Post by: PStechPaul on April 11, 2014, 10:10:00 AM
Well, they say one good turn deserves another, so here is my adventure of machining a two 5" diameter 1/2" thick aluminum discs down to 3-1/2" for the dual flywheels on the model engine I'm making. This is the first time I've had the original 4" 3-jaw chuck off the lathe, and the first time I've used the 7-1/2" faceplate. I also discovered that my never-used 8" four jaw (automatic centering) chuck will not fit on the faceplate, and is probably too big for my 9" x 20" HF lathe anyway. But I rigged up a jig that allowed me to machine both flywheels, although turning down from 5" to 3-1/2" in 5-15 thousandth cuts is not a very efficient method. Here's a video:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnFMQZWupcc
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