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Title: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on February 08, 2013, 08:59:55 PM
So after moving house and being without a place to play workshop, a few weeks ago I made a start on my new workshop.

I have settled on a timber frame structure, 16ft x 10ft and the roof peaks about 9ft height. The plan was to make the front, back and 2 side panels, and the roof trusses, and then assemble them all at once, but having made the front and back walls, and realised the weight of them, I have changed the side walls to be in 2 parts.

The area where it will be is already concreted (rather roughly, so I will be putting in a shallow screed to level it up)

Construction is taking a while to get done as the weather gets in the way a bit at this time of the year, but starting about 3 weeks ago I have made the front and rear panels, and today I made the 1st of 4 side panels as pictured below. As you can see I am just stacking all the panels on the flat, they are sitting exactly where the new workshop will stand, the front of it will be flush with an existing garden shed.

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-sVNjw6f/0/L/2013-02-08%2015.50.27-L.jpg)

Construction is a simple frame of 72x36mm studwork, 600mm centres, sheathed with 22mm OSB, then coated with a weatherproof sealant. The plan is to cover over the OSB with timber cladding later in the year.

Roof will be corrugated steel. Insulation will be some kingspan-type insulation for the roof, and most likely fiberglass-type in the walls.

For kitting out the workshop, my parents recently had a new kitchen installed, so guess who got the old one?? Yup, I'm even going to have a hob and dual oven and a sink!!! And it's all solid oak doors. I'm gonna have a real posh workshop (actually my wife is a bit jealous as there'll be a better oven and kitchen in my workshop than in the house :lol: )

So that's where I am at the moment, updates will come, but are quite dependant on the weather, so don't hold your breath.


Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: ScroungerLee on February 08, 2013, 09:03:47 PM
Kitchen cabinets, especially the lowers, are great in a shop.  I hope you got some with multiple drawers.  Congratulations on your new play place!

Lee
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: propforward on February 08, 2013, 09:04:27 PM
Phenomenal - please do keep posting updates - I am a nosey bugger very keen enthusiast and always interested in how people arrange their shops.

I love the sound of the kitchen cabinetry - that will be very nice. Should be a real nice sized workshop once complete.

 :ThumbsUp:
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Arbalest on February 08, 2013, 09:17:21 PM
Looking forward to seeing your workshop go up. I have also seen corrugated bitumen roofing panels, are they not as good as steel?
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on February 08, 2013, 10:06:38 PM
Thanks Guys :ThumbsUp:

Kitchen cabinets, especially the lowers, are great in a shop.  I hope you got some with multiple drawers.

If I remember correctly there is one base cabinet full of drawers, a couple that have drawers at the top, and a really tall unit that houses the double oven that has one of those deep drawers for big pans. I also snagged the worktops too, and there is about 3 double upper cupboards, and a corner base cabinet that has a rotating shelf (plastic thing that may not take much weight)

Should be a real nice sized workshop once complete.

My last workshop was 6ft wide by 10ft long, and shared with a central heating boiler (kept it nice and warm though) so this will be quite a step up in size, I figure I will have room to put a central table in if I want to as well as having benches all round 3 walls :ThumbsUp:

I have also seen corrugated bitumen roofing panels, are they not as good as steel?

I've seen them too, I can't comment on their properties though, never used them.

My roof trusses will be also on 600mm centres, and having replaced some tin roofing on my dad's garage roof, the original tin roofing having lasted 40+ years (and it was just painted, not galvanised) I figure that tin roofing will not only last long enough, but also be a bit more sturdy considering the truss spacing.


Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Don1966 on February 08, 2013, 11:03:31 PM
That's great Tim, It must be hard not have a place to play. Looking forward to seeing it comoleted and decked out with equipment. LOL....   :ThumbsUp:

Don
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: zeeprogrammer on February 08, 2013, 11:18:58 PM
Looking forward to seeing this take shape.
It's so much fun to put together a shop!
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Stilldrillin on February 09, 2013, 09:08:52 AM
Hi Tim.

It's good to see you're finally starting your shop build.  :whoohoo:

You've been some time, without a play area.......  ::)

Good luck!  :ThumbsUp:

David D
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: steamer on February 14, 2013, 10:09:13 AM
Keep it coming Tim...I'm watching!

Dave
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on February 19, 2013, 08:32:18 PM
Thanks Guys  :ThumbsUp:

So the weather has been kind to me this week, and having had some time to spare I have managed to make the rest of the side panels.

Here's an "in-progress" pic (I kept getting carried away building and forgetting to take pics)

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-V2sPH6k/0/L/2013-02-19%2015.59.10-L.jpg)

These are pretty simple and quick to make, I just cut the top and bottom pieces to length, then the 5 "Top-to-Bottom" pieces (technical term there)

Then with my brothers trusty pneumatic framing nailer (POWER!!!!) it takes a few seconds to fix all the bits together.

I also staple on some damp proof membrane to the bottom edge.

Then I cut down the OSB sheet to length (2 sheets per side section), then align the 1st sheet at one corner, fix with a screw, align another corner of sheet to frame, fix with another screw, then when you align the middle edges/corners with the frame it pulls the frame into square.

From cutting, nailing, cutting OSB and screwing it down, and then nailing the sheet every 12", and finally painting on some weatherproofing stuff, it all takes about 1.5-2hrs.


Then having an hour left of usable daylight, I made up 3 roof trusses.

So now I have a stack of workshop bits, and just need to make up another 4 roof trusses before assembly can take place..

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-RxSX8pv/0/L/2013-02-19%2017.23.34-L.jpg)


So that's as far as I am up to, stay tuned for irregular updates.

Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Arbalest on February 19, 2013, 09:02:20 PM
Where's the door?  :???:
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on February 19, 2013, 09:47:28 PM
Where's the door?  :???:

In the attic of my dad's garage  :lolb: :lolb: No really, that's where the door is at the moment. However, the hole for the door is in the bottom panel in the pictures.


Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on February 28, 2013, 11:17:54 PM
I got a little more done, finished all the trusses, and as the weather has been so good this week I started assembling all the bits together.

After a couple of hours sweating (and a little work too) I got the walls up. Then my dad came round and we got the trusses installed and then got almost one side of the roof attached.

I got it all squared and levelled up, just got to mix a little cement fill all the gaps between the shed and the (very uneven) concrete base.

Anyway, here's a couple of photos of where I'm up to.

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-s3PkDR3/0/L/2013-02-28%2009.38.48-L.jpg)

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-V2d3ZJc/0/L/2013-02-28%2009.38.58-L.jpg)

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-hwTcDcN/0/L/2013-02-28%2009.39.28-L.jpg)

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-4ptxzS8/0/L/2013-02-28%2009.39.57-L.jpg)


Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Chris J on February 28, 2013, 11:21:08 PM
It's slow Tim but it is moving on so well done.  :ThumbsUp:
That first cup of coffee you drink in it will be a good one, savour it.  :)
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on February 28, 2013, 11:27:52 PM
It's slow Tim but it is moving on so well done.  :ThumbsUp:
That first cup of coffee you drink in it will be a good one, savour it.  :)

Thanks Chris :ThumbsUp: Fortunately I am a very patient person.

I am really looking forward to finishing it, wait a minute, it probably will never be finished, but at least finished to the point of making metal chips again.

Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: zeeprogrammer on March 01, 2013, 01:12:05 AM
It's going to be a nice home. Very exciting.
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on March 04, 2013, 06:25:49 PM
So I got some more done today. My dad came round and gave me a hand.

We were working on the ridge, but the local builders merchants do not stock the ridge pieces ( they stock the main roofing sheets but not the ridge, wierd ) so what's an engineer to do ???

Make your own ridge pieces, that's what!!

We got a 8x4 sheet of galvanised steel, had at it with an angle grinder and cut it into 18"x 4ft strips. Not having a 4foot bending metal brake we fashioned a suitable implement out of the brown stuff.

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-8J4scQt/0/L/2013-03-04%2011.46.16-L.jpg)

The sheet to be bent is 1st placed on the workbench (3 4" fence posts on 2 trestles) up against a stop. then a piece of OSB re-enforced with a piece of the brown stuff is clamped on top of the sheet.

Then we sandwiched 2 pieces of OSB on the steel sheet sticking out and clamped, then (Warning, highly technical terms about to be used next) we sat on the OSB sandwich, bending it as far as we could. Then we unclamped everything, reversed the steel sheet in the jig and repeated the process.

The result was that all the pieces bent up to the same angle and so then it was just a simple matter of climbing onto the roof and drilling and nailing the ridge-sheets down.

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-HnnjKtG/0/L/2013-03-04%2012.42.17-L.jpg)


We ran a little short of nails, so we only nailed each end of the ridge sheets, my dad's since found another bag of the nails at his house, so we'll add some more nails.


Next will be some guttering, and filling in the gaps between the walls and floor.


Thanks for watching,

Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: arnoldb on March 04, 2013, 07:05:46 PM
Good going Tim  :ThumbsUp:

It'll be really great to see you back in the shop again once its finished.

Kind regards, Arnold
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Stilldrillin on March 04, 2013, 11:10:04 PM
A very neat job Tim.  :ThumbsUp:

Very neatly done too!  :praise2:

David D
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Don1966 on March 05, 2013, 01:52:02 AM
That will be a very nice shop Tim, and a great job building it. You should be proud of your accomplishment. A nice place to play in and you'll be making chips before you know it.

Don
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: swilliams on March 05, 2013, 03:38:46 AM
Nice Tim. It's fun to watch your shop coming together. Good luck with the rest of it!

Steve
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on March 05, 2013, 06:23:12 AM
Thanks Guys  :praise2: :praise2:  I can't wait to get making swarf again.


Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: steamer on March 05, 2013, 11:54:31 AM
Hey if it's got a roof....its a shop!.....Keep at it Tim...you'll be cutting steel in no time!

Dave
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on March 05, 2013, 09:57:03 PM
Actually I've just realised I have been making swarf, drilling the holes in the roof for nailing  :noidea:

Not quite as good as milling or turning, but it'll have to do.


Got most of the guttering up today, no photos, sorry


Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on March 11, 2013, 05:28:09 PM
The next update:

So I have been chipping away at the workshop, got the guttering all installed, the rest of the nails installed to hold the ridge securely, filled the various gaps between the (as-smooth-as-the-sea) concrete slab and the walls with some cement.

Today I have installed a large piece of wood-and-glass into the big hole in the front gable

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-xmVpxPt/0/L/2013-03-11%2016.53.52-L.jpg)

And then my dad arrived with some plasterboard so we set to insulating and then sheeting one of the long walls

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-nDTj9Xk/0/L/2013-03-11%2016.53.30-L.jpg)


I was amazed that even with just one wall insulated and a door loosely fitted (gaps all round it as I have yet to fit any draught-excluding door jams/architrave, or even a latch/lock) the place warmed up and there was much less sound from outside.

I can't wait to get the rest of the walls insulated and sheeted, then the ceiling done, then it'll be just a few steps away from being inhabited by my tools and machines.


Thanks for watching,

Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: b.lindsey on March 11, 2013, 05:45:13 PM
The shop is coming along well Tim. That will be a nice retreat to hang out in and the short commute even nicer :)

Bill
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: zeeprogrammer on March 11, 2013, 06:38:49 PM
Don't forget the wiring!
Or did I miss something?  ;D
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Stilldrillin on March 11, 2013, 06:39:33 PM
That's a first class workshop door Tim!  :ThumbsUp:

Tool deliveries, direct through the letterbox?  ;)

David D
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on March 11, 2013, 07:29:44 PM
Don't forget the wiring!
Or did I miss something?  ;D

No Zee, you haven't missed anything. I'm going to run all the wiring on the surface, it's a whole lot easier to miss drilling/screwing into live wiring when it's all surface mounted  :ThumbsUp:

Tool deliveries, direct through the letterbox?  ;)

Yup, a real posh workshop, even got it's own letterbox  :P


I'll probably put a removable panel to cover the window when I'm not in it, even though it is in my rear garden which is all enclosed, it'll give me peace of mind to know that no peeping eyes can see in when I'm not there.

Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Chris J on March 11, 2013, 08:06:37 PM
Tim

I think you need to install a kettle and a comfy chair immediately.

Keep it coming  :cheers:
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Tennessee Whiskey on March 11, 2013, 10:43:20 PM
Tim, you'll have a cup brewing and swarf on the floor in no time. Check into LED lighting. Price has come way down over here. It's great light and easy on the meter.
 :cheers:
Eric
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Mosey on March 11, 2013, 10:49:44 PM
How many plugs of Indian Chief so far?
Keep up the good work, it looks great!
I bet the wife will appreciate the silence, too.
Mosey
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on March 20, 2013, 05:38:27 PM
Thanks guys.

We've been working away on insulating and plasterboarding, got all the walls insulated and covered, and as pictured below we've got the ceiling insulated, now completely insulated with between 2" and 60mm of kingspan insulation. The reason for the 2 different thicknesses is because that is what I was able to get off my brother who had some left over from building his house.

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-Mk2CV8j/0/L/2013-03-20%2010.16.43-L.jpg)

Following that picture I finished off the insulation, then taped all the joints to seal any air leaks ( I believe that the efficiency of this type of insulation depends on an air-tight fit )

Then my dad and I cut and fixed 2 sheets of plasterboard to the ceiling, they were the hardest as they were as-good-as full sheets, the rest will be about half-sheets, so much easier to handle.

The drop in noise from the outside is great, much reduced!

The next session should see the rest of the ceiling boarded, then it'll be taping the joints and then covering with compound.


Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Bearcar1 on March 20, 2013, 07:12:48 PM
Swell job Tim, you are certainly making good progress from a stack of wood to a structure. If you do not already know, apply your compound as sparingly as possible and in multiple, thin coats. This will serve to do two things, 1) it will reduce the amount of final/finish sanding and compound being wasted in doing that and 2) it will curtail cracking of the seams. Less is better even though it may take a bit more time. You are absolutely correct about insulation and sealing the cracks. Drafts are the number one source of heat loss, with radiant loss being number two. What size of power service are you planning to install?


BC1
Jim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on March 20, 2013, 09:05:41 PM
Swell job Tim, you are certainly making good progress from a stack of wood to a structure. If you do not already know, apply your compound as sparingly as possible and in multiple, thin coats. This will serve to do two things, 1) it will reduce the amount of final/finish sanding and compound being wasted in doing that and 2) it will curtail cracking of the seams. Less is better even though it may take a bit more time. You are absolutely correct about insulation and sealing the cracks. Drafts are the number one source of heat loss, with radiant loss being number two.

I did not know that, thanks for letting me know that Jim :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp: , I'll make sure to do that.

I'm not going to cover the screw-heads with compound, they are a really handy reminder of where the studs are located  :noidea:


Quote
What size of power service are you planning to install?
BC1
Jim

Because of the length of cable from my main fuse panel I've been advised to run 10mm square cables (not square cables, square mm  :Lol: ), but they will be run off a 45Amp breaker ( 240Volts single phase ) in the main fuse board, then I will put a secondary fuse-board in the workshop with 32Amp circuit breaker for the sockets and 6Amp breaker for the lights.

That's the plan anyway, it won't be too long before I'll be installing the electrics :whoohoo:


Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: zeeprogrammer on March 20, 2013, 09:36:18 PM
I have to tell you Tim, I'm feeling a lot of envy.
It's one thing to put a shop together...another to build the housing for the shop.
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Arbalest on March 21, 2013, 11:38:30 AM
If you do not already know, apply your compound as sparingly as possible and in multiple, thin coats. This will serve to do two things, 1) it will reduce the amount of final/finish sanding and compound being wasted in doing that and 2) it will curtail cracking of the seams. Less is better even though it may take a bit more time. You are absolutely correct about insulation and sealing the cracks. Drafts are the number one source of heat loss, with radiant loss being number two.
BC1
Jim

Good tip.  :ThumbsUp:
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: hammer on March 21, 2013, 07:58:23 PM
Fixing 8' + 4' sheets of plaster board brought back memories for me. when I was young & in my prime I fixed them to ceilings on my own with out using props. Some times got a bang on the back & a slap in the face, but not often. The secret 2 nails & 2 blocks of wood. I am not Hammer for nothing.
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: steamer on March 22, 2013, 02:58:07 AM
Looking great Tim!

Dave
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on April 01, 2013, 04:33:56 PM
Another little update:

We've managed to get all the plasterboard fixed, joints scrimmed and then compound applied twice and then sanded.

Result:-

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-RNtw42j/0/L/2013-04-01%2009.43.57-L.jpg)

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-hPGLkXP/0/L/2013-04-01%2009.44.27-L.jpg)

As this is just a workshop I am not going to go overboard on the joints, they are covered and while not up to a standard for my house, the fact is that most of the walls will be covered up with shelves and cupboards ( and eventually swarf and oil )


Then today we managed to nail up the 1st coat of paint. It's a bit rough looking, but the 2nd coat will smooth that out.

Then we'll be putting in some of the electrics.

Not much to report really, progress is slow but steady.

Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: b.lindsey on April 01, 2013, 05:38:07 PM
Great to see an update Tim. You must be glad to have all the plaster boarding done too!!  What little of that I've done was enough to teach me to stay away from it as much as possible :)  Must be exciting also to be getting this close to having your new "shop" home.

Bill
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on April 01, 2013, 09:12:28 PM
Great to see an update Tim. You must be glad to have all the plaster boarding done too!!  What little of that I've done was enough to teach me to stay away from it as much as possible :)  Must be exciting also to be getting this close to having your new "shop" home.

Bill

I don't mind the plasterboarding, it's the taping/compounding/compounding/compounding........ and then sanding/sanding/sanding, then if you dont seal it it just sucks paint like nothing else, and then when the paint dries you then see all the myriad of mistakes you made and then have to spend an age filling/sanding/painting/filling/sanding/painting..... etc etc.  :facepalm:

I am getting excited though, I keep running through in my mind where I'm going to put everything, then I have a terrible thought that I don't have enough space  :wallbang: :naughty: :LittleDevil:


Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: steamer on April 02, 2013, 02:56:48 AM
That looks awesome Tim! ....lots of light!

 :ThumbsUp:

Dave
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on April 03, 2013, 07:38:48 PM
Another little update:

I got the second coat of paint nailed up, looks a bit more consistent now.

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-tHnjhLQ/0/L/2013-04-03%2015.27.57-L.jpg)


My dad also brought round 2 sheets of 6mm ply (Actually not quite full sheets, about 7x4 ft each) Which we screwed up onto one wall along the top, it will be great for hanging tools and little shelves wherever I want.

Gave it one coat of paint,

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-bHXgSQr/0/L/2013-04-03%2015.27.36-L.jpg)

And then after a few hours, another coat,

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-XBL9Vz2/0/L/2013-04-03%2017.29.55-L.jpg)


My dad also brought round a few fluorescent light fittings, they may or may not work, so I gotta test them before putting them up. Hope to put the lights up on Friday afternoon, then will be clearing out everything from the workshop at the weekend, another friend is coming round on early next week to install the floor screed to level up the floor.

That's the plan anyway.


Onwards and sideways,

Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Bearcar1 on April 03, 2013, 08:12:29 PM
Looking fine Tim. I hope that your plans progress as well as planned. Usually the only thing that goes pear shaped with florescent lighting is the ballast, which can be *shot* due to age and the other is the tubes themselves become worn out over time. I don't know if you are going to heat this cozy little abode in the colder months or not ut keep in mind that regular florescent ballasts do not work well in colder temperatures. Ballast for these conditions can be purchased but are a bit pricey. I have been considering getting a coupe for our garage (insulated but unheated) because the lights do not want to come on when it gets fairly cold outside.


BC1
Jim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on April 03, 2013, 08:38:12 PM
Usually the only thing that goes pear shaped with florescent lighting is the ballast, which can be *shot* due to age and the other is the tubes themselves become worn out over time.

I believe that is so, and I think I have a source for replacements if they are shot, and my dad also brought round a couple of new tubes too, so I should be covered there too  :pinkelephant:

Quote
I don't know if you are going to heat this cozy little abode in the colder months or not ut keep in mind that regular florescent ballasts do not work well in colder temperatures. Ballast for these conditions can be purchased but are a bit pricey. I have been considering getting a coupe for our garage (insulated but unheated) because the lights do not want to come on when it gets fairly cold outside.

I was not aware of that, but fortunately I will be heating the workshop (albeit only to 8-10 degrees C) so hopefully that will be sufficient  :ThumbsUp: Thanks for the tips Jim  :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp: :NotWorthy:

Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Arbalest on April 03, 2013, 09:09:15 PM
Maybe it's a voltage or frequency thing in the USA as my fluorescent lighting works fine in the garage at least down to just above zero and they are standard cheap B&Q units!
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Bluechip on April 03, 2013, 09:34:48 PM
Could well be, Arbalest. I wonder if they are 115V electronic ballasts ??

Certainly the 4 fittings I my garage worked fine in December 2010 at some -12oC.

But they have the Bogstandard (TM?) choke ballasts.
Did notice the Myford's mandrel was very stiff. Must have pinched up the front bearing, not that I was in there to use it ...

Dave


Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: b.lindsey on April 04, 2013, 12:55:04 AM
Looking good Tim....wont be long now!!

Bill
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on April 05, 2013, 09:04:22 PM
Thanks for watching along guys.

Another little update:

I've turned to some of the electrics, now that the paint is dry I can put up some lights, so I did

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-qmnc7Tf/0/L/2013-04-05%2020.25.33-L.jpg)


From the other end

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-fv4KK7Z/0/L/2013-04-05%2020.26.06-L.jpg)

A couple of them need the ballast replacing, got 3 electronic ballasts on the way so when they arrive I think that I'll be getting a tan while in the workshop.

I also installed my little consumer unit and temporarily wired up half of it to operate the lights.

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-F3VjDNx/0/L/2013-04-05%2020.26.17-L.jpg)

That white flex coming out from the lower left of the consumer unit is just the temp incoming supply, I have yet to run the permanent supply out.


Next I have to clear out everything to make way for laying the floor screed on monday.

Onwards and Sideways


Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Bogstandard on April 05, 2013, 09:14:11 PM
That is coming along really well Tim.

It is bringing back old memories from when I did mine, about 10 or so years ago.

BTW, everything I have hanging on my plasterboard walls is held up by these (most probably about 1/2 ton in weight) and haven't had a single issue with them pulling out or coming loose.

http://www.leofixings.com/productdetails.aspx?menulevel=2&level=2&catcode=123&hdnGroupCode=271&hdnProdCode=9gcdb396fiE=

Another BTW, this is a great place to buy your ground twist drills, especially the long series, and tipped hard plate drills.


Keep it going

John
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: steamer on April 06, 2013, 01:48:18 AM
Sweet!



Dave
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on April 07, 2013, 04:59:10 PM
Thanks guys  :ThumbsUp: and thanks for the link John, that's filed away for future reference.

Can there be any more sad a sight than a workshop filled with nothingness ????

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-TL7jMZw/0/L/2013-04-07%2016.34.13-L.jpg)

That's it ready for the cement screed which will hopefully go in tomorrow, the OSB boards are just there to protect the DPC from getting tore up with the wheeling of cement in.


It's getting closer to having workshop-type-furniture installed  :cartwheel: :cartwheel: :cartwheel:


Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: steamer on April 07, 2013, 05:45:02 PM
I like it Tim!   Are you screeding right up to the wall board?....

I would think that you would want that clear of the concrete......you guys build stuff differently than we do...

Dave
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Mosey on April 07, 2013, 06:21:30 PM
The space between the wallboard and the concrete floor slab is one of the places where the radon gets in, in many cases.
M.
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: steamer on April 07, 2013, 06:24:41 PM

The space between the wallboard and the concrete floor slab is one of the places where the radon gets in, in many cases.
M.

So you should seal it then?

Dave
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on April 07, 2013, 08:36:53 PM
Are you screeding right up to the wall board?....

As far as I'm aware we will, I have a friend who knows about these things (retired builder) and he's the one actually putting the screed down (with me providing all the brawn)

The space between the wallboard and the concrete floor slab is one of the places where the radon gets in, in many cases.

Well thank goodness that we don't have a problem with radon in this area  :cheers:

Keep tuned for irregular updates,

Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: b.lindsey on April 07, 2013, 08:58:21 PM
Looks like more Onwards than Sideways to me Tim. Now anxious to see that floor once its put in, as I'm sure you are too.

Bill
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Mosey on April 07, 2013, 11:02:16 PM
Not wanting to be making trouble, though, if you don't have Radon, I wouldn't worry. It is hell to try to seal later, though, and easy now.
Mosey
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: zeeprogrammer on April 08, 2013, 10:33:15 PM
Can there be any more sad a sight than a workshop filled with nothingness ????

Oh indeed yes. A shop full of machines and tools and no time to use them.

A workshop filled with nothingness has immense potential. Looking forward to seeing what comes out of it.
Title: Building my new workshop
Post by: ths on April 09, 2013, 12:44:33 AM
What's all this about radon? Sounds insidious!

Tim, for a number of reasons, over here we'd do the slab first and then put the structure on top,of it, this way we can see the termites getting in. Don't you have them over there?

Hugh.
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Don1966 on April 09, 2013, 01:31:48 AM
What's all this about radon? Sounds insidious!

Tim, for a number of reasons, over here we'd do the slab first and then put the structure on top,of it, this way we can see the termites getting in. Don't you have them over there?

Hugh.
Hugh I am with you, the radon I know about comes from radioactive material. And we do pour our slabs before building here and treat for termites.

By the way nice shed Tim you'll be making Swarf pretty soon.

Don
Title: Building my new workshop
Post by: ths on April 09, 2013, 04:44:39 AM
And it is very remiss of me, probably through envy, to have failed to congratulate you on creating a great space. As I type this, I'm actually drawing (?) plans for my shed.

Cheers, Hugh.
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Rayanth on April 09, 2013, 07:58:30 AM
For those who are confused about the talk about Radon : http://www.epa.gov/radon/pubs/citguide.html (http://www.epa.gov/radon/pubs/citguide.html)

Radon is a radioactive gas emitted by the decay of radioactive materials. Virtually all soils have trace amounts of radioactive materials in them, including uranium in infinitesimal amounts. According to the site, Radon is the second leading cause of lung-cancer and deaths from Radon-induced lung-cancer number 20,000+ per year in the US alone. Serious business!

-- Rayanth
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on April 09, 2013, 01:13:30 PM
Tim, for a number of reasons, over here we'd do the slab first and then put the structure on top,of it, this way we can see the termites getting in. Don't you have them over there?

Hi Hugh, thanks for the comments.

That's the way it is normally done here too, but in my case there was already a concrete slab here (evidently laid by a blind man who had never been introduced to a spirit level) where 20yrs ago there stood a garage (long since pulled down before I ever moved in)

So I built the shed 1st and then put a cement screed down to give a nice flat, level, and smooth floor.

Termites?  :thinking: :shrug: :noidea: I think St Patrick drove them out with the snakes, the only problem we suffer with is damp, rot, and woodworm. ( and the buildings get some problems too  :ROFL: )


Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on April 09, 2013, 01:20:47 PM
Little Update:

Got the floor screed down yesterday, it took 1.25 tonnes of cement (all shovelled by yours truly)

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-58rx74X/0/L/2013-04-09%2007.40.58-L.jpg)

Now gotta wait for a week for it to harden enough to walk on. But I might find a couple of things to do around the outside.


Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: b.lindsey on April 09, 2013, 01:30:21 PM
Looks good Tim...after that much shoveling, maybe you should take today off :)  Did you do the floor in sections or as one continuous block?  Given the depth of the building, just wondering how your worked the concrete to smooth it, etc. once it was in place.

Bill
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: ScroungerLee on April 09, 2013, 01:35:13 PM
You are getting near to the fun part of deciding what goes where, I am jealous :)

Lee
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: steamer on April 09, 2013, 02:13:45 PM
Looks awesome Tim!

Dave
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on April 09, 2013, 07:26:07 PM
Looks good Tim...after that much shoveling, maybe you should take today off :)  Did you do the floor in sections or as one continuous block?  Given the depth of the building, just wondering how your worked the concrete to smooth it, etc. once it was in place.

Bill

Actually, I've just realised that I shovelled 2.5tonnes. The mixer we were using did not have a stand, so I shovelled the sand/cement from the trailer into the mixer, then tipped the resulting mixture onto the ground before shovelling it into a wheelbarrow and then wheeling said implement into the workshop and tipping it.

No wonder my back is aching  :facepalm2:

It was laid and smoothed in sections about 2ft each along the width of the shed. We 1st of all laid a couple of lengths of 2"x2" timber, positioned about 2ft in from each long wall, and levelled them up with some cement. Then it was just a case of spreading the cement inbetween. Then we could smooth it using another timber riding on the 2"x2"s. Then after smoothing, we troweled it up with a steel float to give it a finished surface.

Then after coming back we prised out the 2"x2"s and filled in the gaps, smoothing it and carefully smoothing over the area's where we had to tread on to fill the gaps, backing out towards the door.

My friend who did all the actual skilled work says the key to putting a floor in like this is to have the cement as dry as possible. I thought I was mixing it really dry, but it was really surprising to see the amount of water that would rise up to the surface as he was troweling it up. Of course it had nowhere else to go, the DPC stops it from going down. (It was coming out of the mixer so dry that it would hardly hold together in my hand, but I guess I could have mixed it drier  :shrug:

But because it is so dry, it meant that it could be walked on to remove the 2"x2"s and fill in without spoiling the whole area.

When I checked today, the surface is still soft, my friend reckons about a week to harden up enough to be walked on.

The depth of the screed is between 2" at the shallowest and about 4" at the deepest  :o  This surface is such an improvement (although to be fair, you could put a screed down with a jack-hammer and still get a better surface than what was there before :ROFL: )

You are getting near to the fun part of deciding what goes where, I am jealous :)

Lee

Even before I had built the 1st wall panel I had started planning where everything would go, I'm even planning where the tools that I hope to make and buy will go!!


Thanks for the comments guys   :ThumbsUp:


Tim
Title: Building my new workshop
Post by: ths on April 09, 2013, 09:34:11 PM
Thanks for the explanation Tim, it all makes sense. And great work with the concrete, a lot of very hard work, but you now have what you want.

Hugh.
Title: Building my new workshop
Post by: NickG on April 09, 2013, 11:09:32 PM
Looks great that Tim, well done, bet you can't wait to use it. Looks cosy!
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on April 29, 2013, 08:51:48 PM
Little update:

For over a week I have ran my dehumidifier and have extracted an estimated 80-100 litres   :o

Then today I got the lend of my brothers trailer and brought over all the kitchen cabinets stored in my dad's garage. It took only two trips, and now I am faced with the age-old game of "Kitchen-Cabinet" Tetris.

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-DNqKJBv/0/L/20130429_173713-L.jpg)

Suddenly I feel the need for a bigger workshop   :facepalm:


Stay tuned for In-Game pictures over the next week !!


Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: zeeprogrammer on April 29, 2013, 10:00:31 PM
Suddenly I feel the need for a bigger workshop

 :lolb: That's always the way.

Isn't it exciting though? You get to make it however way you want.
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: steamer on April 29, 2013, 10:12:01 PM
That looks awesome Tim!   Once you start hanging stuff on the walls....the floor space will free up..

 :ThumbsUp:

Dave
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: mklotz on April 29, 2013, 11:27:51 PM
That looks awesome Tim!   Once you start hanging stuff on the walls....the floor space will free up..

Absolutely...

(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j234/mklotz/HUMOR/stuckup_zps0be3c260.jpg) (http://s81.photobucket.com/user/mklotz/media/HUMOR/stuckup_zps0be3c260.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: metalmad on April 29, 2013, 11:38:48 PM
Marv
now Thats just nasty :lolb: :Jester: :lolb:
pete
Title: Building my new workshop
Post by: ths on April 30, 2013, 12:34:03 AM
At least he's at eye level.
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: b.lindsey on April 30, 2013, 11:51:57 AM
Looking good Tim....and don't think of the cabinets as taking up space, just reallocating it to more organized storage :)

Bill
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on May 01, 2013, 08:30:30 PM
So the "Tetris" game began today.



The 1st pieces,

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-vVQk8QV/0/L/20130501_094657-L.jpg)



Then,
http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-hqgtKnr/0/L/20130501_102207-L.jpg



And then the problem of trying to hold up a heavy upper cabinet while drilling/screwing it to the wall while on your own.

A simple solution occurred to me,

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-FZ6J6Z8/0/L/20130501_110751-L.jpg)

You might notice the red laser lines marking where to screw the cabinets to the wall (the next best thing to X-ray vision)

The big hole in front of the jack is for a sink, oh yes, I even brought the kitchen sink  :lol:



(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-fx8HjNQ/0/L/20130501_115752-L.jpg)


And ended up with this at the end of today's work,

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-K2bzc99/0/L/20130501_162852-L.jpg)

You can see the 5 double electric sockets down the left hand side, and the hole in the worktop for the electric hob ( on the right of the double oven )


Next will be some more wiring, and I need to build a bench on the right side of the workshop for my mill and lathe.


Thanks for watching
Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Tennessee Whiskey on May 01, 2013, 09:00:37 PM
Now being somewhat of a professional cook and even less of a true machinist, this is the dope as the kids say. The cabinets are great. You gonna use the oven for snacks or heat treating? :Jester: there are a great many uses for an oven in the shop, I use some old pizza ovens from my restaurant quite a lot. You will love the cabinets, just count on planning, placing, re planning, replacing, and finally, just letting stuff sit around awhile till you figure out where to put it. You'll probably still move it again. :old:

Yo Redneck,
Eric
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: b.lindsey on May 01, 2013, 09:33:21 PM
Wow....that is fantastic Tim!!  Sink, oven, cabinets, countertops, totally awwsome and we still have machine tools to go :)

Bill
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Bearcar1 on May 01, 2013, 11:09:37 PM
Double wow, Tim. Do you have any plans for toe-boards around the bottom of your cabinets or perhaps some pull-out drawers on the floor for material storage? The reason I bring this up is I would hate to see you go to all this and provide safe haven for the shop gremlins to reside. You know the drill ....... *plink* (something rolls off the work surface and makes it to the floor never to be seen from again)  :rant:




BC1
Jim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: zeeprogrammer on May 02, 2013, 12:11:47 AM
I'm struggling to look anymore. You're living my dream and that ain't right.  ;D
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Dave Otto on May 02, 2013, 01:01:42 AM
Nice layout!

Those open cabinets would be great for displaying finished projects.

Dave
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Don1966 on May 02, 2013, 01:41:20 AM
What a layout Tim, kitchen cabinets and oven. A working mans paradise all in one. Outdoor kitchen and machine shop, just great man,when are we cooking?

Don
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: steamer on May 02, 2013, 06:13:04 AM
Damn Bubba!....when do I move in?!

 :LittleDevil:


That looks great Tim!...but I have the same question as  Eric... :ThumbsUp:

Can't wait for this answer...I hope it has something to do with MEM pepperoni pizza or something!

 :ROFL:

Dave
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on May 02, 2013, 08:11:33 AM
Thanks guys :ThumbsUp:

You gonna use the oven for snacks or heat treating?

Probably a bit of both, plus for curing when I get a powder coating setup. But to start with it will probably be used most as a means of cooking chicken bits before transferring to the BBQ for cremation  :Jester:


Do you have any plans for toe-boards around the bottom of your cabinets or perhaps some pull-out drawers on the floor for material storage?

Yea I have the original kick-boards which will be going down as soon as I lay some floor covering (probably lino)  :ThumbsUp:
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Stilldrillin on May 02, 2013, 09:22:39 AM

Yea I have the original kick-boards which will be going down as soon as I lay some floor covering (probably lino)  :ThumbsUp:

It's all getting a bit much for me, now........  :facepalm2:


                     :praise2:
David D
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Farmboy on May 02, 2013, 11:13:44 AM
Can't help thinking you'd have saved a lot of 'shop time by just moving the lathe into the kitchen . . .  :naughty:

Mike
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Chris J on May 02, 2013, 02:09:52 PM
That looks awesome Tim!   Once you start hanging stuff on the walls....the floor space will free up..

Absolutely...

(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j234/mklotz/HUMOR/stuckup_zps0be3c260.jpg) (http://s81.photobucket.com/user/mklotz/media/HUMOR/stuckup_zps0be3c260.jpg.html)

That is hysterical  :pinkelephant:
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on May 08, 2013, 04:55:00 PM
Another step forwards...

Been busy putting in some electrical outlet sockets, and some trunking between them, and then some electric string shoved into said trunking and some sockets wired up.

I also got some of the brown stuff and fashioned it into a frame. This will then get some kitchen worktop (Currently buried under a veritable mountain of crap essential stuff, awaiting release when said mountain gets transferred into new workshop cupboards)

Pics...

Sockets down one side,

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-LN4cqN5/0/L/20130508_162710-L.jpg)


New frame/bench (there will be doors put on the front to keep out the majority of swarf),

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-jn3MPHd/0/L/20130508_162722-L.jpg)


Stay tuned for more of the same (but slightly different)

Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: arnoldb on May 09, 2013, 06:08:49 PM
 :ThumbsUp: Now That's the way to add sockets to a shop Tim - there never seems to be enough.

Looks like you'll be making chips soon.

Kind regards, Arnold
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on May 21, 2013, 08:39:33 PM
There's not been too much to show, but I have been beavering away plumbing in a ring mains, a whole bunch of double sockets and then installing some electric rope to feed the cooker and hob.

I also freed up 2/3rds of the worktop needed for the lathe and mill bench (the other 1/3rd is buried under boxes of workshop equipment) and attached it to the bench.

Today I installed some doors on the Lathe/Mill bench, I need to make some handles, maybe I'll pop round to my dad's and turn some on my woodturning lathe.

Here's a pic of the Mill/lathe bench.

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-6p6WJ9S/0/L/20130521_164538-L.jpg)

After hanging the doors (one still to go, but have not got a piece of tree big enough for the hole) I made a start on fitting a 5-lever deadlock to the door, got the lock fitted, now just need to fit the keeper in the frame and get a couple of handles.


Thanks for watching,

Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: kellswaterri on May 21, 2013, 09:36:23 PM
Hi Tim, that is one great looking shop...how do you intend to heat it.
                  All the best for now,
                                            John.
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on May 22, 2013, 06:20:49 AM
Hi Tim, that is one great looking shop...how do you intend to heat it.
                  All the best for now,
                                            John.

Thanks John :ThumbsUp:

I'm going to use a little oil-filled radiator to heat it, I plan to hook it up via a thermostat to just keep the shop at an even temp, prob about 10C.


Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: steamer on May 22, 2013, 10:47:44 AM
Looking good Tim!..you'll be making chips soon enough!


Dave
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Jo on May 22, 2013, 11:00:44 AM
Can I have fish with mine  :ROFL:

Tim: I am sure you are looking forward to making swarf again  :ThumbsUp:

Jo
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on May 22, 2013, 05:49:27 PM
Tim: I am sure you are looking forward to making swarf again  :ThumbsUp:

You better believe it, I'm itching to get my mill and lathe set up, and the list of projects is growing and growing, I just cant decide what to do 1st!!  :cartwheel: :cartwheel: :cartwheel: :cartwheel: :cartwheel: :cartwheel:

It'll probably be a little something I need for work, but then I think one of Elmer's engines will be the 1st serious project, just something fairly simple to get me back into the swing of things. Then I quite fancy having a go at the "Tiny IC" engine that was all the rage on HMEM a couple of years back.

Not to mention plans to overhaul my little lathe, it is still as it came from axminster, I haven't done a thing to it bar (semi)clean the dragon fat off it and add a QC toolpost. Then my CNC conversion on my mill could do with a couple of brackets remaking.


Then..... then...... then.....


Sigh! it's getting so close now :???:


I got the 5-lever door lock fully installed today, even got proper handles on the door now. Hope to get the electricity supply installed next week.


Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on June 03, 2013, 05:27:34 PM
 So I've been a busy bee today, and as the big ball of fire was visible in the sky today I decided to do a little work on the outside to make it look a bit more "sheddy" (Official term)

Not wishing to waste the fence panels that got blown down a few months ago, I salvaged what I could of them just for this purpose. I started by putting up some DPC held in place with some strips of pressure treated tree.

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-4VrdDwz/0/L/20130602_174947-L.jpg)


Then I began the tast of cutting the reclaimed fence panels to size, and air-stapling them to the strips of tree previously affixed.

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-LRKC8Lv/0/L/20130603_124746-L.jpg)


Then it was a few hours of repeating the same until I got to this stage,

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-TmSxHbB/0/L/20130603_163747-L.jpg)


It was at this point I ran out of dry weather and also ran out of fence panels in pieces. It looks a little more rustic now, and will look a lot better when it's given a coat of fence/shed preservetive to bring the colour into uniformity.

Thanks for watching,

Tim

ps, I forgot to mention that I'v also got power through to the workshop, along with 2 CAT5e cables (it was as easy to pull 2 through as it was to do 1)
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: b.lindsey on June 03, 2013, 05:46:10 PM
That looks great Tim, and sheddy as you say in a good way of course. Looking forward to seeing some pictures of the finished interior too. This has been fun to watch and I am sure it will be nice to have a new shop to tackle all those projects in too.

Bill
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Dave Otto on June 03, 2013, 10:54:32 PM
That looks nice and rustic; it will be fun to see it all finished with a fresh coat of fence/shed preservative.

Dave
Title: Building my new workshop
Post by: ths on June 04, 2013, 01:53:27 AM
Very sheddy Tim, looks good.

Hugh.
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Pete49 on June 04, 2013, 03:30:57 AM
Looking good Tim. Here I wouldn't be game to even try to build a shed in timber anything short of galvanised iron or steel framing and the place would be gone within no time and the termites would thank me for it. I constantly worry they will evolve into steel eaters soon. :Lol:
Pete
Title: Building my new workshop
Post by: ths on June 04, 2013, 11:15:21 AM
Pete, I believe that there are concrete eaters in WA. True.

Hugh.
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on June 04, 2013, 12:06:22 PM
Thanks guys, I can't wait to install the machines in it.


Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on June 21, 2013, 08:14:09 PM
Well it's been a while since I updated this, I have been busy with life and other stuff :bang:

I have got a bit more done, and very excitingly, I have got the mill and lathe installed in their places and even switched them on  :drool:

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-RpgtZLR/0/L/20130621_171308-L.jpg)


As you can see I even have got the PC going and the CNC working (sort of, still needs a few tweaks)


(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-4W9fZKd/0/L/20130621_171319-L.jpg)

I hung the monitor on the wall, keeps it out of the way, and I also put up a shelf for the PC too

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-WM6ddrq/0/L/20130621_171323-L.jpg)

Just got to tidy up the cables a bit, and as you can see I've removed the doors off from the bench, this is in preparation for the flooring fitting next week. I also have to do a huge amount of tidying and clearing up as well.

Hopefully next week will see some vinyl flooring installed, that should make sweeping up a bit easier.


Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: b.lindsey on June 21, 2013, 09:12:17 PM
Still coming alone nicely Tim. Nice to see the machines in place now too. Thanks for the update!!!

Bill
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Tennessee Whiskey on June 21, 2013, 09:17:36 PM
Tim, you've come from a place I thought we could kick up some man grub and make a few chips to a place we could launch satellites from. Good going chap :cheers:

Yo Redneck,
Eric
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Don1966 on June 21, 2013, 10:11:41 PM
Wow! Tim you have come a long way and from the looks of it ready to make Swarf. Nice job on your shed.

Don
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Arbalest on June 22, 2013, 11:15:17 AM
Nice job Tim, you must be pleased!

I may be needing a new shed in the near future so can I ask why you chose plasterboard rather than say plywood? I'll have several options available and I may take the easiest which would be a finished insulated cabin but in case I choose to do some work myself it would be handy to have some thoughts on the subject.
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on June 22, 2013, 04:42:34 PM
Thanks guys  :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp:


Nice job Tim, you must be pleased!

I may be needing a new shed in the near future so can I ask why you chose plasterboard rather than say plywood? I'll have several options available and I may take the easiest which would be a finished insulated cabin but in case I choose to do some work myself it would be handy to have some thoughts on the subject.

Actually I didn't choose plasterboard, it was very kindly donated. If money was no object I would certainly go for 3/8" ply covering the top half of the walls, makes hanging and attaching anything so much easier, no more hunting for studs, but there would be little need for it on the bottom half, so put whatever's cheapest, ie Plasterboard. In my workshop, apart from about 4feet, none of the bottom half of the walls is visable. It's all hidden behind cabinets.

That being said, plasterboard is a lot smoother and a little easier to paint. I ended up with a couple of 6mm ply sheets given, so I screwed them up above the mill&lathe bench to make it easy to mount QC toolholders and other mill/lathe tooling.

I also would recommend getting the best type/thickness insulation you can afford. I haven't experienced any freezing temps yet in this workshop, recently we had a whole week (unheard of before  :headscratch: ) of glorious sunshine, 20-24 degree C outside temps, and even after several days of this the ambient tempreture in the workshop had not warmed up too much. I'm hoping that this is an omen that heating it in winter will not be too hard.

My walls have (from inside to outside) 8mm plasterboard, 3" of fibreglass insulation, 22mm OSB, and DPM (some parts then have an additional timber cladding, eventually all walls will have this). My roof is insulated with Kingspan solid insulation 50-75mm thick (I believe this has an equivalence of around 6-8" of regular fibreglass insulation) As they say, what you spend on insulation you will save soon enough on heating/cooling bills.


Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Arbalest on June 22, 2013, 06:03:20 PM
Thanks for that Tim, nice to hear your thoughts. I've had a casual look at cabins, some of which are about 40mm thick timber. Some have two layers of timber with insulation between but not sure how thick it is. It depends on cost/how lazy I am at the time! The nice thing about plasterboard is as you say, a nice finish. Thanks again.

Vic.
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: Chris J on June 22, 2013, 08:32:32 PM
I have used Celotex Sheets sandwiched between the outside wall of the wooden shed and a thin marine ply inner wall.
As with sound insulation, air gaps are a good thing.
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: steamer on June 23, 2013, 10:49:22 AM
It's coming along beautiful Tim!

Dave
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on June 25, 2013, 09:01:53 PM
I got a little more done, mainly tidying up. But I also trammed the mill, and put up another shelf for Lathe/mill acc's and hung some toolholders on the wall.

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-QTZL4d3/0/XL/20130625_173011-XL.jpg)


I also discovered that one of the Stepper Motor Drivers is faulty, fortunately it is the Rotab driver, so not used so much. Got another one coming.


Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: spuddevans on June 29, 2013, 04:40:35 PM
Got the Vinyl flooring down, looks a lot better and much easier to sweep.

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-LDHjZnF/0/L/20130629_140524-L.jpg)


As you can see I also have got another offcut to put in front of the Lathe and Mill, hopefully to catch most of the hot swarf before it damages the main flooring.  :thumbup:


I also installed a few handles on the doors of the Mill/Lathe bench.

(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-f3NRhsX/0/L/20130629_144448-L.jpg)


Keep tuned for irregular updates,

Tim
Title: Re: Building my new workshop
Post by: b.lindsey on June 29, 2013, 06:52:51 PM
Its getting close now Tim. That flooring looks good too.

Bill
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