Little '36 Midget Build

[Jasonb]

If you are the type who reads the back page of a book first then go straight to this post

http://www.modelenginemaker.com/index.php/topic,8882.msg208172.html#msg208172

For those still following along I first became aware of this engine when one popped up as a suggested video on You-tube and I quite liked the look of it. The Video said that the design was in a 1936 issue of Popular Mechanics which detailed making the patterns and a second issue had the working drawings and machining description. After a bit of googling I found the first part on the web but not the second, however the two parts were also published in Popular Mechanics "Shop Notes" from 1938 which I managed to buy an old copy of.



Now you know how I feel about some castings and that combined with a newly acquired CNC mill made the decision to cut from solid an obvious choice and while I was at it a reduction in size from the original 1 1/4" bore down to my usual 24mm bore and a complete metric design.  As shown in the magazine there were some rather crude details and lack of refinement so I also set about changing just about every part yet still staying true to the original layout and the look of an old engine not a clunky barstock engine. A few evenings work in Alibre and the basic design was ready.



The parts that needed the most work and that would make or break the project were the two crankcase halves so I started with them by exporting my design from Alibre to F360 where I used the CAM to create the codes for cutting the crankcases.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDQwAdshtOQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDQwAdshtOQ</a>

Rather than make nesting jaws to mill the inside I decided to use the lathe, firstly bringing the case down to thickness with the tailstock giving support as there was not much to hold during the interrupted cuts.



Followed by boring out the space for the crank and an undersize bearing housing. You can just see that I also included a small locating recess for a spigot on the other half, the original did not have this but I felt it would help keep the two halves lined up.



The rear half was milled out with a few changes to the CAM to take into account what I had learnt doing the front half, it is basically a mirror image with the addition of a boss for the vent.



This was then turned in much the same way except a spigot was left rather than the recess.



I also started cleaning up the machining marks with needle & reiffer files and Emery cloth.



The screw holes were reamed to 4mm and some dowels made with M3 tapped holes each end. These also help keep the two halves lined up and are again another feature of my own. It was now possible to hold both halves in the lathe to bore both bearing housings at one setting to ensure perfect alignment.

[mnay]

I had this one on my bucket list, so i will be following along
Mike Nay

[mnay]

I finally had the sense to follow the link and see that it is already built.
Nice upgraded engine.
Mike

[Craig DeShong]

Hi Jason

Interesting engine, but you take all the fun out of the thread by waiting till it's done to post. 

One of joys on this board is "acting the expert" till every thing goes to hell-in-a-hand-basket and you have to eat crow 

Still, and an interesting model.  I'll be following along.

[Jo]

Would Surus consider CNC machined barstock as a casting  I think it would need the Ramon treatment.


I don't have the first article from the 36 Popular Mechanics build notes but I do have the second 

Jo

[Zephyrin]

Hi,

A few evenings work in Alibre and the basic design was ready.

I still hope to become able to do that in a few evenings...some day

very appealling engine and a nice thread and pictures, thanks to share.

I do have the 2 parts in a PDF, both quite interesting, lots of detailed  technics in patterns making and in tooling for the build.



I also add link for another one "ejusdem farinae" from "popular mechanics" oct & nov 1946 issues.


the point with these old articles is that you have to wear a tie to do the machining...

[Jasonb]

Would Surus consider CNC machined barstock as a casting  I think it would need the Ramon treatment.

With your newfound love of working the brown stuff on your sewing stand I though you and the little chap would knock up some patterns

Don't worry Craig, I will include the part that went wrong.

Thanks for the PDF's but you do miss out on looking at all the old adverts which are just as enjoyable as the articles

[Jo]

With your newfound love of working the brown stuff on your sewing stand I though you and the little chap would knock up some patterns

The brown stuff is getting a good work out morning and evening  Surus has been checking if any of he needs to do a bit of heat treatment to normalise his existing castings now that the opportunity has arisen again but he is still waiting for those CHUK Castings.....


The UK Elf and Safety rule has made getting castings done a bit too expensive. The last single 10cc crankcase casting set they wanted over £100 a set for    My supplier clamed he thought I would want one   

Jo

[Jasonb]

I thought he had enough equipment to pour his own, a quick click of the scale button and a pattern could be CNC'd out easy enough it already has the draft angles which you don't get on many barstock replicas.

My Muncaster flywheel man has said he can cast in most metals if supplied with a pattern 

[Jasonb]

The next job on the crankcases was to mill off the last 0.5mm that I had left on the cylinder flange. To get things lined up I bolted a 20-40-80 block along the X-axis and clocked that true and with the ends of the main bearing and cam bearing housings against that the case was true in X&Y. A couple of 15-30-60 blocks supported the two mounting lugs.



The top was then opened up by drilling and then taken to final diameter and depth with the boring head. The four cylinder screw holes were also drilled and tapped M3 at the same setting.



Leaving the crankcases for the moment A piece of cast iron for the cylinder was turned down to the diameter of the fins and then held by this reduced diameter to face the end and bore out to 24mm



Before cutting a spigot on the end to locate in the crankcase.



Like a lot of parts I make one was used to gauge the size of the other, I think this fit is about right.



The cylinder was again reversed in the chuck and with tailstock support the slots between the fins were added with an insert parting tool



The last turning job now that I did not need anything too solid to hold by was to machine the waist between fins and mounting flange



As I wanted the practice on the CNC I used that to give the flange it's square shape with rounded corners and also drill the mounting holes.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9r4BFrJWjc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9r4BFrJWjc</a>



That gave me an excuse for a test fit.



The last machining job on the cylinder was drilling and tapping for the head fixings, the spiral flute taps work just as well on crumbly materials as those that produce long swarf. Just needs a bit of honing to complete.

[Jasonb]

Luckily I was able to keep the same 21/42 tooth count on the timing gears by using MOD0.8 which gave a suitable PCD distance. So first job was to machine the blanks, this is the larger gear that has had the faces recessed.



Unfortunately when cutting the teeth on this one the 4mm central hole was not upto holding it still and the gear crept on thearbor, it was also quite chattery. So another blank was cut but this time left flat faced and an angle plate placed against the blank so it could also be clamped to that with a toolmakers clamp and all went well. I also used 32DP cutters but cut to the MOD0.8 dimensions as there is so little difference between the two and I had the 32DP cutters.



The smaller 21T gear was not a problem having a 10mm hole though I did butt the angle plate up against the arbor to stop any deflection.



The large gear was then recessed and some weight reducing slots added more for looks than performance. Also in the photo are the two silver steel (drill rod) tappets and some bronze guides that I decided to include rather than having them run in the plain crankcase holes as shown on the original design.

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The crankcases were then held in the mill vice and with a  10mm dia carbide cutter shank in the main bearings to support the small gear and the large gear mounted on the camshaft blank held in a collet the backlash was set and the DRO zeroed so that the holes for the camshaft bearings could be reamed in the exact position required.



All seemed to run smoothly enough .



With the holes done I split the crankcase halves so that the  hole could be located on the mill and a recess opened up to give clearance for the cams.

[Jasonb]

I made a couple of changes to the cylinder head, the most obvious is a separate post for the rockers to pivot on rather than one cast integral to the head. The other difference was to omit the way that the valve guide extends into the valve chambers and to retain the length of guide these were extended further above the head which also meant I could machine a step to help locate the valve spring.

I started by facing some cast iron bar in the lathe and forming a shallow spigot to locate in the bore. Then over to the mill and two holes were drilled and tapped into the valve cavities which allowed me to screw the head to a block that could easily be held in the CNC mill's vice.

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I could have set a finer step down on the contouring cuts which would have needed a bit less finishing but was happy to need a bit more filing as that would give a bit more variance that gives a more "cast" look.





I always prefer to bore my valve cavities, ream the guides and machine the seats with a boring bar all at one setting and find this needs very little lapping and results in a good sealing valve. To do this a simple jig was made up consisting of a bit of bar with 4 offset tapped holes and 4 standoffs, it was then just a case of screwing the head to this to do one valve and then taking it off, rotating 180deg and screwing back on to do the other.





It was then over to the manual mill to drill the exhaust and inlet passages as well as adding the M2.5 tapped holes for the carb and exhaust flanges.



An angle gauge was used to set the head in the vice so that the spark plug face could be skimmed and the 1/4" x 32 threaded hole for the Rimfire plug added.



The last thing to do was remove the contour line sleft by teh CNC with teh aid of needle files and that was the head complete.

[Johnmcc69]

Some very nice looking parts there! I also like the lathe fixture for machining of the valves. Good thinking.
 
 John

[Jasonb]

Thank's John

The crankshaft started out as a length of EN8 steel that was faced to length and ctr drilled for the throw and shaft centers before milling out most of the waste around the pin which is a lot faster and easier than turning it away. I left it for a week to settle after this but it did nor show any signs of having moved.



Then the pin and inner webs were turned, I used a boring bar for the left hand web and an HSS knife tool for the right, the pin was completed with a modified parting tool that has had the middle of the cutting edge ground away with a Dremel which stops any chatter as the tool is worked from side to side as a fine cut is put on.



I then rough turned the ends down using a holder that takes the "other two" corners of a CCMT insert while holding the web in the chuck.



Final finishing was done between centers using a DCMT insert which again helps reduce chatter and will also take off a fine cut.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpVtM35GFtM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpVtM35GFtM</a>



I also turned and rough bored the flywheel at this stage but more of that later.

Last jobs for the lathe were to screwcut a thread on the end and then cut the taper for the flywheel, doing it at the chuck end makes it easy to bore the flywheel at the same topslide setting.



Finally back to the mill to shape the webs to give some counterbalance.

[scc]

    enjoying quietly and hopefully learning..........Terry

[Craig DeShong]

Outstanding Jason 

I’m really enjoying following this build.

[mike mott]

Most interesting your SBS pictures were very informative thanks for taking the time.

Mike

[Jasonb]

Thank's for the interest guys.

As I mentioned in the previous post before doing the taper on the crankshaft the flywheel was machined. first job was to recess the sides of a slice of 80mm EN1A steel, by setting over the top slide 2 degrees some draft angle could be included on the outer edge while turning conventionally.



Then buy running in reverse and working on the rear side of the hub that could have the same taper and by noting the topslide handwheel setting it was easy to machine to the correct depth. A tool with a rounded end was used to again give the look of an internal fillet as found on castings.



I could now set my topslide to the correct angle for the crankshaft taper and then use that to gauge the depth of the flywheel's tapered bore all without altering the angle so both tapers match. Fine cuts were taken until the shaft entered the flywheel and left 0.5mm clearance between the assembled bearing and timing gear.



Without altering the topslide angle I also machined a tapered arbor and pushed the flywheel onto that using a block and the tailstock ctr to make sure it stayed in place which allowed me to skim the OD to a true finish relative to the bore and cut the recess for the starting cord.



The arbor did not go to waste, with it held at an angle in an ER Collet block a slot was cut so that it could be used as a bush when broaching the flywheel.

[Jasonb]

The two rocker arms were mostly done using the CNC, first roughing out the profile and contour and then using a corner radius cutter to refine the shape before drilling the pivot hole. After that they were sawn off the parent bar and held in some shaped aluminium jaws to shape the other side.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO9qIaB77vA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO9qIaB77vA</a>

The adjuster and oil holes were done on the manual mill, pivot hole reamed and some final needle file work soon had the contours blended in.



The rocker post started as a simple turned part.



Which was the milled and reamed before a bit more shaping was carried out.



The valves were fairly straight forward turning from stainless steel using tailstock support to prevent the 3mm shank deflecting, the DCGT tip helps with this and also allows you to get in close to the revolving ctr.



A 0.7mm carbide grooving insert was used to cut the groove for the spring retainer. After sawing off the main bar the head was faced to final thickness then the valve inserted into the collet from the back end so that the ctr hole could be turned off and the end slightly domed.



The cam blanks were turned from silver steel (drill rod) before making use of the CNC to cut the profile, so much easier than having to use a rotary table and keep adjusting the mill to a set of co-ordinates from the likes of Cam-Calc





After heat treating they were Loctited onto the 5mm shaft, I just used the indexer and a square to set the angles as the indexer was already on the mill.

[Jasonb]

The piston was turned from some 1" 6082 aluminium and a groove cut for a single Viton O ring.



I did all the hollowing out on the KX3 which was a lot easier and quicker at doing the "dogbone" shape than using the rotary table.



It was then just a case of cross drilling and reaming for the wrist pin before parting off and skimming the top.




The two halves of the conrod were taken down to overall size by flycutting the 2014 ali, the rod part was drilled and tapped, the cap drilled and counter bored for the screw heads. I made up a couple of sacrificial brass screws to hold the two parts together so that the CNC could do the outer profile in one without worrying about the screws. The big and little ends were done on the manual mill then a simple block with two tapped holes and a couple of tap hat bushes to holed the rod down and then press go.



<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGB7FHfdGsE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGB7FHfdGsE</a>

[kuhncw]

Jason,

Thank you for a very nice series of build photos.  I especially like your method for orientating cam lobes using your spin index and a square.  That is very simple and effective.

Regards,

Chuck

[Jasonb]

Thanks Chuck

The carb body was carved from a length of 20mm 6082 aluminium, after facing off and drilling the ctr hole it was over to the  CNC using that to cut the elliptical flange and drill the two mounting holes under size.



I then tapped the holes so that a piece of 1.5mm thick stainless steel could be held and cut to a similar shape, this was used as the mounting flange for the exhaust.



It was then back to the lathe to complete the turning of the long central section which was done with a 1.0mm radius grooving tool as I wanted a fillet in the two internal corners.



Then with the part reversed in the chuck the same tool was used to form the inlet spigot.



The remaining 20mm dia section was then milled down to a 12mm square and a hole reamed through it for the carb's barrel to rotate in. The rough looking area at the upper far side of the hole is a tapped hole for the slow speed adjustment screw.



Not the best photo of the barrel which has been cross drilled for the airway and a flat milled at right angles for the above mentioned slow speed adjusting screw to bear on



The rest of the parts were fairly straight forward turning jobs so no photos taken. From a while I have wanted to use a jam jar for a fuel tank as a lot of trawling through e-bay finally found some suitable jars that could be built into the design. The throttle is controlled by twisting the jar rather than having a separate arm though one could easily be added.

[Jasonb]

The last major part to be made was the ignition timing bracket which was hacked to shape on the CNC

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZrL3pbNxis" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZrL3pbNxis</a>



A few holes and a bit of filing and it was done.



Some brass hardware was turned and a steel screw to allow the clamp to be adjusted so the timing could be advanced or retarded and a couple of Corian insulators completed that assembly.



A piece of 8mm copper tube was bent to a pleasing shape and silver soldered to the previously machined flange to complete the exhaust.



In keeping with the age of the engine some slotted filester head screws were made up in M3, M2.5 plus and M2 one with an additional straight knurl for adjusting the carb slow running position. A single large but flat headed one was made to seal the oil level hole.





Not a bad collection of bits, 58 parts and 32 fixings.

[Jasonb]

After a quick test run to see if everything work the engine was stripped down again and a bit of colour added, in this case Dodge Orange VHT paint and some satin black stove paint for the exhaust. I also made the stands to display it on from a couple of bits of 1/4" thick aluminium angle that were pocketed out on the CNC.











With the photos out of the way I could run a few tank fulls through it and have a play.

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[Flyboy Jim]

That is a fantastic looking engine Jason. Runs really nice as well. 

I saw some of your shop in the background. It would be nice to have a shop tour sometime.

Jim

[mike mott]

Jason the engine sounded great. I am curious about your twisting the glass fuel bulb?

Mike

[awake]

Lovely work and an outstanding result!

[Chipmaster]

That’s a beautiful engine Jason, excellent.
Andy

[Jasonb]

Thank's chaps

The jam jar is connected to the throttle barrel so I turn that rather than the usual lever. There is not that much throttle response unless I lean it out a bit more but then it soon gets hot with no air movement so I was running it a bit rich and tweaking the advance/retard to get the slow lumpy tickover I wanted.

Did not show the workshop as I thought Jo may be offended by the sight of those couple of useless far eastern machines that keep on making these engines

[Laurentic]

Lovely engine Jason, looks a beaut, really stunning!

Just out of interest, roughly how many hours did it take to build, rough ball-park figure?  Takes me ages to do the smallest bit, lacking the experience to plough on like you do guys do, you guys seem to make it look so easy and like in no time at all it's done!!

Chris

[Dave Otto]

Beautiful engine Jason.

Dave

[Johnmcc69]

Mike was thinking the same as i..with the jar turning.
 I see how it works now.

 Give it up. Give us the shop tour.

 We know you have some shiny new toys.

  Beautiful work Jason, whats next?

 John

[Flyboy Jim]

Did not show the workshop as I thought Jo may be offended by the sight of those couple of useless far eastern machines that keep on making these engines

 

Jim

[MJM460]

Hi Jason, that engine is a real work of art.  A beautiful job.

So the test stand needs some cooling provision?  I wonder if a computer fan with some ducting shaped from brass sheet to direct the air over the fins could be a part of the test stand to allow some longer runs and higher performance.  Leaving it as part of the test stand would avoid spoiling the beautiful appearance of the engine.

MJM460

[Craig DeShong]

Beautiful job Jason, and it runs like a dream!

[Zephyrin]

Great thread as ever, and beautiful engine, thanks to share.
I'm puzzled by the contact breaker in brass, in my experiences, this metal does not last long with a conventional ignition coil, but maybe the cutoff voltage is lower with CDI ignition?

[Laurentic]

And if I may ask another question Jason, of a practical nature, the heat treatment of the cams - could you elaborate a little on what was involved, harden and temper or just case hardened?  I hope to have a cam made shortly and was wondering how to heat treat it.  Thanks,

Chris

[Jasonb]

Will have a think about the shop tour although some of the tools are so new and shiny that I will have to hide them away as they are not available to buy yet, just evaluating them for a supplier

I was thinking more along the lines of the outlet from the shop vacuum for some high volume low pressure cooling though I have used the compressor in teh past to good effect with a steady flow into the water jacket of engines.

The CDI units from S/S that I use only need a tiny current as the contacts are little more than a switch, infact they use two of the three connections that a hall sensor would plug into and if you pass too much juice through those they just burst. So no need for tungsten points contacts.

The cams were cut from Silver steel (drill rod) which already has the carbon content so no need to add more by case hardening. Simply heat to 750degC and hold there for a minute then quench in water. Clean up an area so you can watch the colour change as you heat it again and when it reaches brown to light purple quench again. Job done.

Time wise this one was a bit slow, dates on the photos suggest a little over 3 months having taken the first photo on 7th July. I tend to spend a bit less time in the workshop during the summer as my other hobbies need a bit more attention at that time of year or the shed is too hot to work in. Some of the other 24mm bore engines have been running within a couple of weeks particularly those done over the Christmas - New Year period where I give myself some time off work so can get in some shop time.

j

[Laurentic]

Thanks for taking the time to detail those answers Jason, much appreciated. 

Did you experience any dimensional changes to the cams in heating them up?

Chris

[Jasonb]

To be honest I did not measure them after, possibly a slight increase in size but as that would most likely be even all round and only a micron or two not anything to worry about on this engine.

If it were a long camshaft with several cams you would have to be careful to quench it vertically as going in at an angle could bend it.

[Laurentic]

I'd hoped you'd say that!!!

[doubletop]

Jason

Nice job, again!!

 "Spectacular High Speed Performance", according to Popular Mechanics. You'll have to do another video and let it go.

Pete

[Jasonb]

I'd also have to revert to the original cam profiles and events to do that as I altered them to give what I wanted

[b.lindsey]

Another build I had totally missed Jason. Very nice little engine and it really runs well. Nicely done!!!

Bill

[Brian Rupnow]

Jason--what a lovely little engine. It shows great craftsmanship and is a great runner.---Brian

[RayW]

Nice work Jason. The engine runs nicely and looks really good.