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Spot the Difference - It grew a bit bigger
« on: April 10, 2019, 06:08:35 PM »
Well it arrived 10 past 6 this morning  (by 7:15 movers and my old machines had gone).  By 8:30 it was running. :pinkelephant:

Pic 1 old machine
Pic 2 empty space
Pic 3 a lot less space
Pic 3 closeup

It came with X and Y power feeds
Variable Speed
Automatic oiling
Power Drawbar
2 axis DRO
Suds pump
All guards

Appears never to have been used  (april 2011 machine), its absolutely silent.
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No tooling with it originally but asked for a few bits.  Picked a new looking vice I saw on a shelf.  I suggested what else I would like

Now have all  the following
6" Bison vice  (it looks new)
Clarkson Autolock chuck and collets (imperial and metric)
0-13 Rohm keyless chuck
1/32-1/2" Jacobs keyed chuck
r8 to MT2 adaptor
Set imperial R8 collets
Couple of R8 metric collets

Now got to learn how to use it.

Colin

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Re: Spot the Difference - It grew a bit bigger
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2019, 06:29:24 PM »
WOW, that is a beauty :ThumbsUp:

Have a great day,
Thomas

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Re: Spot the Difference - It grew a bit bigger
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2019, 06:36:46 PM »
Wow, thats a big beastie, should be a lot of fun!

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Re: Spot the Difference - It grew a bit bigger
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2019, 07:26:44 PM »

Now got to learn how to use it.

Colin

That sounds (and looks) like a nice problem to have.  :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp:

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Re: Spot the Difference - It grew a bit bigger
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2019, 07:41:04 PM »
Nice  :)

Which DRO is fitted?

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Re: Spot the Difference - It grew a bit bigger
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2019, 08:00:33 PM »
Wow its even got a got a microwave ...for nice hot chips   !!!

Willy ;D ;D

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Re: Spot the Difference - It grew a bit bigger
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2019, 08:37:32 PM »
Jo,

It is a Fagor Innova 20i M.  It would appear to be reasonably sophisticated.  Can do all the usual, bolthole circles, angular lines, angle of parts, tool compensation, calculator, corner rounding.  Just downloaded the manual.  Looks fun!!!

The machine is a Gate PBM-2000, Bridgeport copy.

Wifes comment, "thats a bit big"  :)

Managed to get a few R8 bits on Ebay to complement the kit.

Mike, as you say a nice problem to have.  I just need to find some off-cuts to practice on before I try and do something for real.

My mate Tom bough a 1995 Bridgeport the day before, but he has found loads of R8 bits he did not know he had.  He just needs to get rid of a Harrison Universal and a Southern Engineering Vertical mill now to make a bit more space.  He has a bit of refurb to do on his machine, then  we can learn together.  As he has retired from his own engineering business I will actually be trying to learn off him.

I'm sort of classing it as a pre-retirement present and birthday present all in one.

Colin



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Re: Spot the Difference - It grew a bit bigger
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2019, 08:59:23 PM »
I'm sort of classing it as a pre-retirement present and birthday present all in one.

Don't say that to the Wife  :hellno: you really need to make an additional list of things it needs and you will buy those for her as your birthday present :mischief:

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Re: Spot the Difference - It grew a bit bigger
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2019, 09:28:02 PM »
Jo,

That was in my mind, not what I told her.

I've already had birthday present (Doug Hyde - Limited Edition Print)

You had better give me a list of the things you consider necessary  :LittleDevil:

I think it will get a z axis power feed, and possibly a horizontal adaptor, support and arbor at some point in the future.

Hopefully within the next couple of days if Ebay behaves itself will have a large Clarkson autolock with a few collets and another small clarkson autolock.

I need to get an R8 to MT1 and an R8 to MT3 adaptor, arbor for facing mill and get Tom to make me an arbor for the Lenz 1S Boring and Facing head (he had only just made a MT3 version.

Colin

PS are you going to the Doncaster show?

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Re: Spot the Difference - It grew a bit bigger
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2019, 09:45:42 PM »
Do you have a BIG rotary table  :naughty: one needs a decent indexing and a dividing head  :thinking: You might need a hydraulic roller skate like mine ;)

I rarely use my Clarkson autolocks any more I normally Use DA collet holders these days. R8's are not as easy to come by as International holders, so I would nab as many as Tom offers you.

PS are you going to the Doncaster show?

Its too far  :disappointed:

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Re: Spot the Difference - It grew a bit bigger
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2019, 10:02:05 PM »
I have a 6 and 4 rotary table. Vertex BS0 dividing head.

Hydraulic roller skate ??????

Tom does have load of DA collets.  Where can you get R8 to DA?? Collet chucks?

Colin


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Re: Spot the Difference - It grew a bit bigger
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2019, 10:55:52 PM »
Nice looking machine Colin. Should give you lots of capabilities. Enjoy!!

Bill

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Re: Spot the Difference - It grew a bit bigger
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2019, 08:04:17 AM »
Hydraulic roller skate ??????

As originally sold for motorcycles but idea for saving your back by helping to get heavy tooling on and off the machine table: http://www.modelenginemaker.com/index.php/topic,5892.0.html

 :thinking: I think they have realised how stupid having wheels on a high reach motorcycle lift is as the only reasonable priced one I could find is this one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SwitZer-Hydraulic-Scissor-300lb-Bike-Motorcycle-Lift-With-4-Wheel-Motorbike-ATV/120640320690?epid=8026966780&hash=item1c16b934b2:g:8MAAAOSw5wJcQWpS but the wheels are not as nice as my one  :disappointed:


While not in use it also acts as a useful rolling small tools table  :ThumbsUp:

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Re: Spot the Difference - It grew a bit bigger
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2019, 10:10:46 AM »
Jo,  if you look at the generic picture closely you will see one of the 300kg hydraulic tables with Excel Die Filer on it.

Bill thank you will do

Colin

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Re: Spot the Difference - It grew a bit bigger
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2019, 11:11:07 AM »
The motorcycle tables are a lot smaller and easier to scoot round the workshop than the full sized lifting tables (which I also have  :-X )

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