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Offline Ye-Ole Steam Dude

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« Reply #255 on: December 14, 2018, 10:48:08 PM »
Dang, dude!  Thats not a cookie.  Thats a COOKIE!!


Though it is in scale to your 'model'!!!


After all your work its deserved!


Hello Chris,  :ROFL:

I was too busy to make all those little dough balls, so I dumped it out on a pizza pan and stuck it in the oven.

Have a great day,
Thomas

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« Reply #256 on: December 15, 2018, 12:59:50 AM »
That will feed a lot of  shop gnomes!!!  :o

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« Reply #257 on: December 17, 2018, 08:27:42 PM »
Shop gnomes would probably be daunted by the size of that thing - the noise they'd make trying to haul it away would alert you to their presence!

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« Reply #258 on: December 17, 2018, 08:30:53 PM »
Shop gnomes would probably be daunted by the size of that thing - the noise they'd make trying to haul it away would alert you to their presence!
Or all the cheering when they found it....

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« Reply #259 on: December 17, 2018, 08:44:14 PM »
Shop gnomes would probably be daunted by the size of that thing - the noise they'd make trying to haul it away would alert you to their presence!


Hello Bent,

I would hope so  :agree:

Have a great holiday,
Thomas

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« Reply #260 on: December 17, 2018, 08:45:26 PM »
Shop gnomes would probably be daunted by the size of that thing - the noise they'd make trying to haul it away would alert you to their presence!
Or all the cheering when they found it....

Hello Chris,

 :Lol: :ROFL: :lolb: :naughty:

Have a great holiday,
Thomas

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« Reply #261 on: December 24, 2018, 06:42:35 PM »
Hello Everyone,

More work on the front end for the Buggy and when this is all reassembled it will stay in place until everything is striped down for the final paint job.

First photo is of one of the brackets welded to the cross member on the Chassis that one of the Drag Links connects to. I have set up the Drag Links in a wishbone pattern but with two contact points on the Chassis versa one point. This offers more strength and twice as much adjustment if needed.

The second photo is showing both Drag Links in place and connected to the brackets on the cross member.

The third photo shows the under side of the Front Axle with the stop bracket welded in place. There are two stop brackets, one on each end of the Axle, and they limit the amount of travel that the Wheels / Tires can be turned. As you can see, I have welded a nut on the back side of the bracket and installed a second nut on the front side along with an “adjustment” bolt. This will allow me to limit and adjust the amount of travel of the Tires / Wheels if ever needed.

As soon as the primer dries I can reassemble the Front End and get it installed back onto the Chassis. Next up will be installing the Engine, CVT, Transmission and all the rest of the drive system.

Thanks for following along this year and I wish every body a safe and Happy Holiday,
Thomas

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« Reply #262 on: December 24, 2018, 07:26:48 PM »
More impressive work, very interesting to watch it come together!

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« Reply #263 on: December 24, 2018, 08:45:54 PM »
This is very interesting Thomas.

I'm not much of a car guy (guess I skipped that phase growing up), so can you help me understand the goal of the Drag Links?  Are they to provide torsional strength to the front axle, so that it is held in place by more than just the springs?  Or is there some other function too?

I'm learning a lot from your build here, Thomas! Thanks :)
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« Reply #264 on: December 24, 2018, 08:58:46 PM »
More impressive work, very interesting to watch it come together!

Hello Chris,

Thank you and hope you and the family have a wonderful Holiday.

Thomas

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« Reply #265 on: December 24, 2018, 09:11:44 PM »
This is very interesting Thomas.

I'm not much of a car guy (guess I skipped that phase growing up), so can you help me understand the goal of the Drag Links?  Are they to provide torsional strength to the front axle, so that it is held in place by more than just the springs?  Or is there some other function too?

I'm learning a lot from your build here, Thomas! Thanks :)
Kim

Hello Kim,

The short answer is Yes. However they not only maintain a fixed dimension square to the Chassis and Rear Axle, they allow a "twisting" of the Front Axle as it goes over uneven ground. And they maintain the center line dimension of the Front Axle from side loads. They also reduce / restrict the "rolling" action, that is to maintain the vertical center of the King Pin closely to 90 degrees to mother earth (road).

I could have made a lot simpler front end system that would have worked OK for this small car, but I kind of get carried away sometimes with my engineering. Building Hot Rods as a young man and doing quite a bit of racing, I learned to lean to the extra safety side when ever possible.

Hope you and the family have a great Holiday.

Thomas

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« Reply #266 on: December 24, 2018, 09:22:08 PM »
Thanks for the explanation, Thomas.

Same to you!  Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New year! :)
Kim

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« Reply #267 on: December 26, 2018, 08:15:48 PM »
Hello everyone,

Here is another video showing the installation of the Drag Links ( completed now ) and the Stop Brackets on the Front Axle. The Front End is now installed on the Chassis and is complete except for the finial paint when all work on the entire Chassis is finished. I am really satisfied with the way all of this has turned out and so glad that I made the change to the Rack and Pinion style of steering system.


Have a great day,
Thomas

PS: Chris you questioned if the Buggy would fit through the door, note it does and has been turned around (but just barely).

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« Reply #268 on: December 26, 2018, 08:24:49 PM »
Very nice, coming along great!
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« Reply #269 on: December 28, 2018, 01:39:19 PM »
Hello everyone,

OK the Buggy is now looking more like an automobile. As you can see from the photos the Engine, CVT w/belt, Transmission and Jackshaft are now temporarily installed in place. A lot of small items need to be built and fitted into place to get all theses parts to work together. All the cutout work on the Engine Plate appears to be spot on because so far everything is in alignment as designed.

Have a great day,
Thomas