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Re: 1898 Automobile A.K.A. horseless carriage
« Reply #120 on: September 22, 2018, 05:37:50 PM »
Looking good Thomas. It looks like your rear end assembly is going to look and perform a lot like a Club Car utility cart I once had.

Whiskey

Hello Whiskey,

The way it is designed is to isolate the entire drive system including the axle and wheels away from the Chassis, except for the two pivot points. This keeps the weight on the drive wheels. The Chassis and Body will "ride" on the Front Axle Springs and Rear Springs.

Have a great day,
Thomas

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« Reply #121 on: September 22, 2018, 05:47:08 PM »
That's some nice welding Thomas!
And glad you were happy with the parts this time around!  :ThumbsUp:
Second time's a charm, in this case (contrary to Zee's other thread  :naughty:).
Kim

Hello Kim,

Glad you cannot see all of the welds  :embarassed:, welding inside 90 degree of equal material is hard enough, but it is really hard ( at least for me ) when you have a light gauge on to a much heavier material. They all cleaned up OK and got good penetration on both parts so it is strong. Like my daddy used to say, a good coat of paint will cover a multitude of sin....

Now I wish that I had taken a photo of the water jet flange next to the plasma cut, not even close. The holes on the water jet parts are a perfect circle and did not need any clean up. Expensive but worth it to me.

Just got back from town with some bolts, so back out in the shop to fasten the Bearings to the Flanges.

Have a great day,
Thomas



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Re: 1898 Automobile A.K.A. horseless carriage
« Reply #122 on: September 23, 2018, 10:40:45 AM »
Hello everyone,

Was able to align and install all four Axle Flange Bearings using just two bolts (temporary) on each Bearing along with the temporary 1" axle. Two of the Flanges and Bearings had a small gap which was less than 1/16" and was closed up by tightening the bolts with very little pressure. The Bearings are self-aligning so after getting all the bolts tight, I could hand turn the axle with no resistance. I will make a temporary fixture to hold both Axle Housings in place while everything is welded.  I am both relieved and pleased that is portion of the project is completed.

Have a great day,
Thomas

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Re: 1898 Automobile A.K.A. horseless carriage
« Reply #123 on: September 23, 2018, 03:35:04 PM »
That is looking really nice Thomas!!  :ThumbsUp:

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« Reply #124 on: September 23, 2018, 03:42:50 PM »
That is looking really nice Thomas!!  :ThumbsUp:

Bill


Hello Bill,

We all get a lot of satisfaction and other positive benefits from our hobby, but I am so pleased with the results so far on this project. There is still a very long way to go and just hoping that it will turn out OK. Thanks for the support and nice comment.

Have a great day,
Thomas

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« Reply #125 on: September 24, 2018, 05:10:17 PM »
Hello everyone,

Another early start this morning and got a lot of work done. All of the critical parts are now welded to the Engine Frame and alignment is spot on. Got both the front and rear Spring Perch Hangers welded in place and now ready to test fit the Springs. Removed the Engine Frame and turned the Chassis right side up and now have it on the jack stands. Have some clean up work to do on the Engine Plate before reinstalling it on to the Chassis. It is beginning to take shape now.  :pinkelephant:  :cartwheel:

Have a great day,
Thomas

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« Reply #126 on: September 24, 2018, 05:27:54 PM »
H Thomas,

Just lurking, watching and admiring, but not saying much. Best way sometimes.

Nice work :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp:

Mike
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« Reply #127 on: September 24, 2018, 05:34:56 PM »
Nice work so far Thomas.  What are your thoughts on the drive system, chains or belts?  Clutch is a centrifugal, or a manual (lever-tensioned v-belt?)

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« Reply #128 on: September 24, 2018, 05:53:44 PM »
H Thomas,

Just lurking, watching and admiring, but not saying much. Best way sometimes.

Nice work :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp:

Mike

Hello Mike,

Thanks for following along.

Have a great day,
Thomas

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Re: 1898 Automobile A.K.A. horseless carriage
« Reply #129 on: September 24, 2018, 06:02:47 PM »
Nice work so far Thomas.  What are your thoughts on the drive system, chains or belts?  Clutch is a centrifugal, or a manual (lever-tensioned v-belt?)


Hey Bent,

Drive system is a multi-part: Belt drive CVT from the motor to a Driven Clutch on a FNR transmission, from the tranny is a #40 chain to a Jackshaft, then another #40 chain down to the Driven Axle. I have selected sprockets that will limit my top end speed to 36 mph, however I can easily change the ratio and increase or decrease the top end speed. I think 36 mph will keep it "original" for the 1898 era and Buggies of that time period.

Have a great day,
Thomas

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« Reply #130 on: September 24, 2018, 09:51:16 PM »
Also following quietly along so far - but I do have a comment to :

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I think 36 mph will keep it "original" for the 1898 era and Buggies of that time period.

I believe that 36 mph would have made it a world beater back then ... or close anyway ....

Great project  :ThumbsUp:    :popcorn:

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« Reply #131 on: September 24, 2018, 11:14:10 PM »
Also following quietly along so far - but I do have a comment to :

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I think 36 mph will keep it "original" for the 1898 era and Buggies of that time period.

I believe that 36 mph would have made it a world beater back then ... or close anyway ....

Great project  :ThumbsUp:    :popcorn:


Hello Admiral_dk ,

Think you might be right, I am pushing it at bit. I had it geared at 25 to start with but that just seemed too slow, so I changed a couple of the sprockets and wound up with 36. I might need that extra speed in case I get into a race... :Lol:

Thanks for following and have a great day,
Thomas

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Re: 1898 Automobile A.K.A. horseless carriage
« Reply #132 on: September 25, 2018, 09:38:00 AM »
Hello everyone,

Got a bit more work done last night before turning the shop lights off. Installed both the front and rear Springs which is temporary so that I can build the rear mounting brackets and start to work on the Front Axle. Need to make a run into town to pick more supplies.

Have a great day,
Thomas

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« Reply #133 on: September 25, 2018, 05:38:16 PM »
Hello everyone,

Got the Engine Frame all cleaned up and installed on to the Chassis. Next thing will be to make the weld-on brackets that attach to the Enclosed Axle Housings that bolt directly to the Springs.

Next task will be to start to work on the Front Axle ( less the Spindles ) and then weld on the Spring brackets.

Have a great day,
Thomas

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Re: 1898 Automobile A.K.A. horseless carriage
« Reply #134 on: September 25, 2018, 05:42:08 PM »
Starting to look more and more like a car!
Um, it will fit through those doors when done?   :shrug:
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