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Offline gary.a.ayres

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Checking in...
« on: June 25, 2018, 11:12:57 PM »
Hi -

I'm Gary.

For the most part I'm a maker with interests in various areas, but earlier this year I had a sudden desire to build some steam engines. I'm a complete novice at this and have not yet started working on them.
However, I do want to run them on steam when I eventually build them, so I have been working on a 3 inch vertical boiler. The photo shows it lying horizontally all set up ready for its first water pressure test - tomorrow!



When the boiler is done, my plan is to start with a simple oscillating engine and develop from there.

I live in the British Isles but am lucky enough to also have a small house in France where I have a second workshop. I'm currently installing a lineshaft in my workshop in France using a combination of British industrial pulleys and old French wooden ones from cider presses and so on. That and some other things are featured on my Youtube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcqoEWP6pvkHR6f55Vvufiw/videos?view_as=subscriber

Very pleased to be on the Model Engine Maker forum - thanks!


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Re: Checking in...
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2018, 11:18:55 PM »
Hi Gary, welcome to the forum. I'm sure you'll get a lot of good advice here.

I'd love to know how the boiler test goes tomorrow, it certainly looks a nice piece of work  :)

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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2018, 11:28:59 PM »
Cheers Peter, and thanks for inviting me  :)

You can be sure that you will be the first to know how the boiler test goes!

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Re: Checking in...
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2018, 12:31:09 AM »
Hi and welcome to the forum Gary. Glad to have you aboard!!

Bill

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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2018, 04:57:53 AM »
Hi Gary,
Nice looking boiler!
And welcome to the forum!
Kim

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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2018, 07:06:48 AM »
Thank you both for the warm welcome.

Nice to be here!

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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2018, 07:14:38 AM »
Welcome to the Forum  :ThumbsUp:  :ThumbsUp:
Best regards

Roger

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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2018, 07:16:37 AM »
Cheers Roger!  8)

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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2018, 11:02:10 AM »
That's a nice start on your boiler Gary  :ThumbsUp: Hope the test prove successful.

Welcome to the forum  :hi: - should you need it you'll find lots of help here when you start on your engine(s)

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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2018, 11:46:01 AM »
Thanks Ramon - very kind of you  :)

gary

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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2018, 01:46:21 PM »
Hi Gary, welcome to MEM!

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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2018, 03:30:36 PM »
Many thanks Dave  :ThumbsUp:

gary

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« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2018, 03:39:50 PM »
Well.... not the outcome that I was hoping for today.

During the initial air test at 15 psi a couple of weeks ago it was apparent that there was a small leak where one of the fire tubes joins the end plate at the top of the boiler. I mechanically expanded the end of the tube which seemed at the time to do the trick as the boiler held 15 psi of air after that.

Today, however, under hydraulic testing to 90 psi that leak has come back to haunt me. I suppose that given this is my first effort I should be a bit pleased that there appear to be no other problems. However, this leak has to go. Further attempts to mechanically swage the tube end (without heat) have only made the leak worse, and it is now dropping from 90 to 45 psi in 30 seconds. I could fiddle about with it more but I'm afraid of stressing the end of the tube. The photos below show the problem - it's the tube at bottom right, marked in blue. You can probably see the stress marks inside the end of the tube but fortunately there doesn't seem to be any leakage on the inside, just round the outside where it joins the end plate.

My thought is to try to deal with it by caulking it with a ring of low temperature silver solder round the outside of the tube. I used medium temperature silver solder initially on that part of the boiler so my hope is that if I can do it this way I might be able to avoid disturbing other joins which seem to be ok at the moment. I'm also thinking of using my small portable oxy-mapp torch (instead of the big bad boy) to keep the heat as local as possible.

Does this seem like a reasonable plan under the circumstances? Or do any of you good people out there know of a better way for me to tackle it?

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Thanks,

gary

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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2018, 03:53:44 PM »
Use comsol a low temp soft solder .

Caveat emptor

If you do use it you cannot use silver solder of any type on the boiler.

It’s the stuff they used to caulk a riveted boiler , note it’s the rivets that held it together the comsol stoped it being incontinent


Glad to have you aboard


https://maccmodels.co.uk/silver-solder-and-flux/silver-solder/3mm-comsol-solder-12-coil.html
My aim is for a accurate part with a good finish

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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2018, 05:28:35 PM »
Stuart -

thanks for the welcome and the advice.

In anticipation of this event I have looked into the soft solder debate before. TBH I'm a bit wary of it because - as you say - it precludes silver solder afterwards. Not ruling it out, but will be interested to see if there are any other ideas before making a decision...

Cheers,

gary

 

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