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Offline Stuart

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Re: Zee Needs Popcorn
« Reply #375 on: August 30, 2018, 07:02:07 PM »
Sure it’s not metric as your lathe I think is not old iron ,

5/16 and 8 mm are very close but not quite ,but if you make both it can be what ever you like

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Re: Zee Needs Popcorn
« Reply #376 on: August 30, 2018, 07:10:15 PM »
Sure it’s not metric as your lathe I think is not old iron ,

Nope, not sure. I used a tool to measure the threads and they look 20/in which seems to imply imperial.

But that's why I'm taking the good bolt/nut to the store with me.
It actually doesn't matter which system so long as it fits.
Have to be careful though. If I have to get another nut...it can't be too thick, although I guess I could machine it down.

I haven't investigated thoroughly but it does seem some bolts/nuts/screws on the lathe are imperial while others are metric. Same for the mill.
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Re: Zee Needs Popcorn
« Reply #377 on: August 30, 2018, 07:15:43 PM »
Most likely M8 x 1.25.

That is a pitch of 1.25mm which equates to 20.3tpi so would look similar to a 20tpi imperial screw.

Also worth looking at the parts diagram at the back of the manual as they usually give all screws / bolts as M# x length

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Re: Zee Needs Popcorn
« Reply #378 on: August 30, 2018, 07:23:16 PM »
+1 on what Jason said. I’ll have to say that all the “fixing bolts” on my Grizzly are pretty soft.

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Re: Zee Needs Popcorn
« Reply #379 on: August 30, 2018, 08:46:03 PM »
M8 x 1.25...not 5/16 x 20. I was close!  :paranoia:

I checked the manual. It does call out M8 (bolt and nut) but not the thread pitch nor the length.

Good thing I took the old one in.

I got both hex cap and machine bolt. But tghe hex doesn't have enough meat on it. The machine is fine but the sides have to be slightly trimmed.

 :cussing: 2mm too short. I'll have to go back. Hope they have longer and then trim them.
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Re: Zee Needs Popcorn
« Reply #380 on: August 30, 2018, 08:59:06 PM »
Wonder how come you have to make two trips to get anything done  :shrug:. Think about it

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« Reply #381 on: August 30, 2018, 09:43:25 PM »
Wonder how come you have to make two trips to get anything done  :shrug:. Think about it

I'm doing well at two trips and my single trip frequency has been increasing. It used to be three - no matter what. ;D

Got the last package of bolts.  :pinkelephant: This store is close enough I can be there and back well within an hour. Other stores would double the time.
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Re: Zee Needs Popcorn
« Reply #382 on: August 30, 2018, 10:03:08 PM »
As Whiskey said, the main issue I have with the imports is the softness of the hardware. We had the same issues with all the JET mills and lathes at school. Students can be notoriously rough on such things too!!

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Re: Zee Needs Popcorn
« Reply #383 on: August 30, 2018, 10:27:06 PM »
Back up and running.  :pinkelephant:

A little mill work got me a functional bolt. Could have been done with a hack saw and file...but I like using my tool.

Picture for proof.

Re: softness of hardware. Yes, I'd noticed that on my mini(s) and new equipment as well.
I'm fine with it. I'd rather they let go (fail) before something more valuable does.

Now I've got an extra bolt for next time.

[EDIT] I didn't shave the sides as much as the original. I'd rather have more meat to press against.
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Re: Zee Needs Popcorn
« Reply #384 on: August 30, 2018, 10:51:29 PM »
Nice save!
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« Reply #385 on: August 30, 2018, 11:09:03 PM »
Thanks Stuart.

I like to think I'm helping (newbies anyway).
I remember when I started this hobby. Had this happened then, I'd feel lost, frustrated, and perhaps fairly upset.
This forum and a bit of experience has made many changes in me. (Some good...some not so good  ;D )
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Re: Zee Needs Popcorn
« Reply #386 on: August 31, 2018, 12:59:15 AM »
You are. And getting some encouragement in the process, which us newcomers need.
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Re: Zee Needs Popcorn
« Reply #387 on: August 31, 2018, 03:04:30 AM »
Manufactured sometime after sunrise but before 5:00pm.  ;D
Finished the oiler for the crosshead guide. In between which was the repair to the lathe.

Two things (problems) to note...

1st is that I don't have the equipment to make tiny holes. So the holes for the oil is a bit large. Not a biggie. This engine isn't going to run for long periods of time.
"Not a biggie"  :lolb: :lolb:

2nd, the top doesn't sit flush with the bottom. That was a bit of surprise given the dimensions I was working towards. But I'm kind of liking the look anyway.

1st pic is the two parts to the oiler. You can tell the hole in the cap is a bit large. Same size hole going into the crosshead guide.
2nd pic shows the oiler installed. You can see how the cap is not flush with the bottom. But seems to look okay to me.

It's after 5. You shouldn't expect anything from me.  ;D
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Re: Zee Needs Popcorn
« Reply #388 on: August 31, 2018, 03:20:07 AM »
Nice! Keep 'er goin' Zee.

 :cheers:

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Re: Zee Needs Popcorn
« Reply #389 on: August 31, 2018, 10:20:23 AM »
Hi Zee,

If you undercut the top of the thread and then perhaps shorten the overall length of the externally threaded stub you should find that the oiler will fit flush with the recipient component.

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