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Offline kev

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Re: Tubal Cain "Polly" without a lathe
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2016, 07:04:49 PM »
I cant see heat being a problem, I have a poly with a rivited copper boiler and brass firebox/base and its fine, I do have it mounted on a heavy wood base to make it more stable

sorry cant figure out how to rotate them back :( .... Thanks for the tidy up bill :)

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Re: Tubal Cain "Polly" without a lathe
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2016, 08:38:37 PM »

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Practical  experience is worth a thousand theories  :)

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Re: Tubal Cain "Polly" without a lathe
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2016, 09:53:20 PM »

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Practical  experience is worth a thousand theories  :)

Rod

Word!

I like that little unit, Kev!!

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Re: Tubal Cain "Polly" without a lathe
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2016, 09:59:39 PM »
Thanks Pete, they are a nice little introduction engine and dont need to be rivited I just did it for fun. It does have the sheet of lead under it for weight but the wood base provides enough stability, been meaning to make a burner for it and this thread has raised my interest again.

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Re: Tubal Cain "Polly" without a lathe
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2016, 05:15:09 PM »
At the Alexandra Palace show last Saturday I had a chat with the chaps on the SMEE (Society of Model & Experimental Engineers).  They run a course on making Polly engines and had some examples on show on their stand.  They reckoned that several had been made with a brass firebox, as a continuation of the boiler, without problems.  Just be sure that you have the model properly fastened to a solid/wide base so that it wouldn't fall over.  They also recommended using Chafing Gel http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=chafing+gel for heating - it can be put into a simple open dish burner.

HTH

Rod

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Re: Tubal Cain "Polly" without a lathe
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2018, 06:49:21 PM »
Here is the end result.
I got a bunch of brass at work, so wound up using a thick walled tube as the mail part of the boiler, silver soldered the top and bottom on to it. I tested the boiler to 2.5x safety valve pressure.

I borrowed a lathe to make the piston , flywheel and crank. The rest is made with hand tools on our living room table.



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Re: Tubal Cain "Polly" without a lathe
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2018, 08:49:11 AM »
Hi Anders,

That looks like a pretty good effort without a lathe, even if you borrowed one for the piston.  Well done, and congratulations on getting it running.

You last posted before I joined the forum, so I did not know you were working on this one.  I have also built a small single acting oscillator using tube for the cylinder, though it was around 10 mm or 3/8 brass tube.  I have a lathe, so made the piston to suit, but without a lathe, some oil grooves wound with cotton or other suitable packing material on a piston made from the closest size rod you can source will work quite adequately, especially if you can size it a little with file rests and your drill.  A bit larger size is less critical in my experience, some 3/8 or 1/2 inch hard brass tube is a good size basis to start with.

Eventually the lathe will come, in the mean time you will have plenty you can do with your other skills.  Have a look at Steam Guy Willy's freelance engine for what can be done with files, skill and patience.  Though I believe you would need a lathe for a double acting engine to get everything on the cylinder concentric.  Others might also comment on this.

I can understand deferring the lathe until the family is grown, I had to wait until all had left home, there are always other pressing purchases with children.  If you browse old threads on the forum, you will see people are making amazing engines on very small lathes if you have no space for a larger one.

So what is your next project now?

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Offline Ian S C

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Re: Tubal Cain "Polly" without a lathe
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2018, 11:21:18 AM »
I'v even heard of a hand drill clamped in a vice and used to turn a piston for a steam engine.
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Re: Tubal Cain "Polly" without a lathe
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2018, 09:35:23 PM »
Thanks!
My next project will be Elmer's wood beam engine with a boiler. I am thinking of making the boiler fully enclosed since the polly boiler has so little heated area and that was something I wanted to improve on my next build.

My neighbour just got a lathe and he will lett me use when ever i need, so now I practically own a lathe

This engine will probably take me a long time as my wife is pregnant and I have to do a lot more around the house for the forseeable future.

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