Another Milling machine?

[Jo]

I have been wondering how many milling machines is too many   

My supplier keeps trying to tempt me with his cute Schaublin Milling machine  its that or maybe find a big brother to Sexy  Not too big just a little bigger 


But I will have to sell some stuff to make space 

Jo

[Vixen]

What about the Emco F1 CNC that you were so interested in a few months ago?

Mike

[Jasonb]

I could sort you out with an ex demo SX2.7 fully tooled up in a year or so if you can wait that long. Can't think why I would want more than the X3 that I have already

Someone came up with a very good quote on ME forum " It's not what is in your workshop that is important, it's the finished items that come out of it" 

[Jo]

What about the Emco F1 CNC that you were so interested in a few months ago?

Mike

Its not Swiss    and I can't see my Supplier taking the same time and trouble cleaning and vacuuming out the back of his Discovery if it was likely to be transporting an Emco 

  You forgot to remind me about the CNC... it will still be there next year......

I could sort you out with an ex demo SX2.7 fully tooled up in a year or so if you can wait that long. Can't think why I would want more than the X3 that I have already

He hasn't even had it a few months and he is already planning its disposal  Quality tools  Last a Life time and you get more for them when you sell them that when you brought them 

Someone came up with a very good quote on ME forum " It's not what is in your workshop that is important, it's the finished items that come out of it" 

I don't agree: Its not what comes out of your workshop that is important it is the pleasure you have when you are playing in it  A finished model is just another ornament for dusting  . Now a set of castings is like a packet of seeds it is a promise of good things to come 

I wonder if some flapjack and a cuppa or two would see it polished on Wednesday as well as installed in the workshop

Jo

[b.lindsey]

 

Bill

[Jo]

  Its not mine yet Bill. You will understand when you see it why I am not willing to say more 


Looks like the only place to put it is where the Prazimat is  but I don't want to sell her 

Jo

[Vixen]

What about the Emco F1 CNC that you were so interested in a few months ago?

Mike

Its not Swiss    and I can't see my Supplier taking the same time and trouble cleaning and vacuuming out the back of his Discovery if it was likely to be transporting an Emco 

You are right. It's not Swiss, it's Austrian. Very hard to tell the difference, the quality is the same. Only the flags are different.

 

You forgot to remind me about the CNC... it will still be there next year......

Quite probably.

Mike

[b.lindsey]

You can always push the walls out Jo and make room without having to sell anything  Would be a shame to sell the Prazimat 

Bill

[Flyboy Jim]

Its not mine yet Bill. You will understand when you see it why I am not willing to say more 


Looks like the only place to put it is where the Prazimat is  but I don't want to sell her 

Jo

I wish I lived closer Jo. I'd be more than happy to store (and use) your Prazimat for you. You could come and LOOK at it anytime you want. 

Jim

[Jo]

You are right. It's not Swiss, it's Austrian. Very hard to tell the difference, the quality is the same. Only the flags are different.

Mike

You try telling that to Eric  I am only being allowed to go and see this as he doesn't have the money for it 

Jo

[Jo]

I wish I lived closer Jo. I'd be more than happy to store (and use) your Prazimat for you. You could come and LOOK at it anytime you want. 

Jim

That's very generous Jim 

What is sad is that the Prazimat is a nice "Apprentice lathe" and it gave me something to let visitors have a quick turn on without me worrying about them getting too friendly with my Mr Silky 

Jo

[Jasonb]

Looks like the only place to put it is where the Prazimat is

Get those triples finished and off the bench as they are taking up more room than the Prazimat and then you will have room for it

[Jo]

Looks like the only place to put it is where the Prazimat is

Get those triples finished and off the bench as they are taking up more room than the Prazimat and then you will have room for it

Always         


No the Prazimat has its own bench, my Island work table is at different height and I do not want a lathe on the main Island work table.

Jo

[Florian Eberhard]

..not Swiss ... Austrian... Only the flags are different.

Sure. Just like Ireland and England. 

@Jo: What Schaublin? A no. 11, 12 or 13?

Florian

[Jo]

Hi Florian 

My supplier has a no 12 and a 13 already. No this is another maker's machine but not the smallest like Sexy 

I won't be sure until I see it. Sadly I am going through the photos and spotting missing bits  


I could still have his immaculate No12 but my Supplier spent too much restoring it 

Jo

[Florian Eberhard]

No worries there Mike, you didnt. My comment was a little sarcastic.
But in fact swiss and austrian people are quite different.
Greetings Florian 

[Jo]

I am being talked out of this machine before I have even seen it by someone who wants to sell me one of his own machines 

Jo

[Jasonb]

But will he use the money from selling one of his machines to buy that one?

Is it a 102?

[Jo]

Is it a 102?

He has 3 102's  none of which are restored 

However I heard SCO was in the look out for a rather nice Schaublin Lathe. Anyone would think his team won the F1 this year 

Jo

[Jasonb]

I thought you were after one of those too? Pity you don't have anywhere to put it

[Jo]

No a 70 and he has 5 of those to restore 

It will be the replacement for Little C  I already have a bench for it  .


I have yet to see if any of his restoration parts are to a standard I will consider good enough for my machine being that I know where there is a new one with my name on it 

Jo

[sco]

Is it a 102?

He has 3 102's  none of which are restored 

However I heard SCO was in the look out for a rather nice Schaublin Lathe. Anyone would think his team won the F1 this year 

Jo

Have been dreaming of a 102-VM, but that's all it is at the moment.

Simon.

[steamer]

Honestly, I'd wait for a CNC 3 axis at least.

[Mcgyver]

I could still have his immaculate No12 but my Supplier spent too much restoring it 

what does your supplier do to "restore"?  New P2 bearings, regrind of taper and a complete scraping and alignment of all bearing surfaces......or a varsol power wash and paint job?

I've not encountered a machinery dealer who would be able to recondition a machine; but granted that is fairly local knowledge.   When they paint them it hurts the value (imo) as you have no idea how tough a life it had so must assume the worst.  It may be different where you are.

[Jo]

Latest on the Milling machine: I am not the owner of an Acieria F2  Consensus is they are not worth more than £1K these days and actually even at that price it was not worth the hassle of moving it 

I did however acquire more castings  A little Otter, another Stuart Steam Pump and a Sanderson Beam engine   

Jo

[b.lindsey]

Well all is not lost then Jo. You can do more fondling of the castings too. Nice acquisitions

Bill

[Jo]

Thanks Bill 

I also picked up a standard (the A frame casting) for a Stuart 10V if anyone needs one. Yes the one that often gets broken when you try machining it 

Jo

[Jo]

Following a couple of questions about my little Otter I have been trying to find a photo of one but so far no luck  so I have pieced it together for you.

It is a 15cc four stroke Marine engine originally in one of the boat mags and the article was repeated in Model Engineer in 1970 which is where I have acquired my metric drawings from 

Time for a  and a fondle 

Jo

P.S.  The Sanderson castings have come up nicely after last nights fondle 

[Jasonb]

At least that one won't be able to chop your fingers off so you can run it yourself

[Gas_mantle]

Is the Sanderson likely to be your next build Jo ? I'd be interested to see how that goes 

A friend recently offered me a full set of Sanderson castings and drawings at a bargain price. I decided at the time that it was way above my skill level so I declined the offer - A big mistake that was    I should have bit his hand off and kept them till I felt I was able to tackle the build 

[Jo]

Is the Sanderson likely to be your next build Jo ? I'd be interested to see how that goes 

  I will be doing an infernal next 

The Sanderson was acquired at the right price 

Jo

[tangler]

My Sanderson is all bronze :



Lord knows when I'll get started on it 

Rod

[Jasonb]

My Sanderson is all bronze :

Lord knows when I'll get started on it 

Rod

You will have to stop playing about with candlesticks and then you might get some models made

[tangler]

Shall I bring them along tomorrow?

[Jasonb]

Are you comming? will be good to see you and the candlesticks. Hopefully they will be as good in the flesh and I won't need to change my decision and ask for your prize back

[tangler]

Are you comming? will be good to see you and the candlesticks. Hopefully they will be as good in the flesh and I won't need to change my decision and ask for your prize back

Perhaps I'd better leave them behind then  .. I thought the chatter marks gave them more sparkle 

In case anybody is wondering what we're on about:

http://www.model-engineer.co.uk/editorial/page.asp?p=250

Judged the best of  nearly 3 entries 

[Jasonb]

There were a few more entries than that, though hard to tell what was a genuine entry and what was taking the St Michael.

Have you started on your egg cups for the Easter comp yet

[Jo]

Yes please bring the Sanderson and any drawings 

Sorry I will not be bringing the Otter  my Supplier still has not forgiven me for snaffling those 

Jo

[Vixen]

Where are you all off to? Can you say

[Jasonb]

Too late, we have been and are back home now, might let you know next time

[Vixen]

Thanks Jason,

There are so few shows left or opportunities to meet up, it is a shame to miss out on one.

Mike

[Jo]

Southern Counties Model Traction Engine Group: A bunch of modellers interested in traction engines and other models who get together at Stratfield Saye three times a year for an interesting presentation, cuppa and biscuits. This was our Xmas meeting so it included xmas lunch goodies 

Jo

P.S. And Eric snoring at the back through the presentation

[Vixen]

I would have thought a sharp elbow from you would have kept Eric listening

Mike

[Jo]

I would have thought a sharp elbow from you would have kept Eric listening

Mike

Jason played it safe and sat between us to make sure I didn't do that 

I had explained to the presenter John in the morning about Eric falling asleep and not to take offense. In the afternoon he winked at me each time it happened 

Jo