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JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« on: September 10, 2017, 08:09:51 PM »
This engine is losely based on the AlKo 14cc from some pictures I saw on the web .
First I made my own drawings in Invertor and then I could start the build .
The engine is alraedy finisched and it has made its first run , I will post pictures of the work regulary .

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2017, 11:36:12 PM »
Glad to see you jumping right in Jef. Nice looking design. Will be following as you post more on the build.

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2017, 06:56:40 PM »
 I started with the backplate of the crankcase , thread cutting M42 x 1 , from "back to front" , so I do not cut in the collar  :)
 This is useful when I cut the thread in the crankcase , so that I can try that it fits .

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2017, 07:16:01 PM »

Very nice Jef.

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2017, 12:49:28 PM »
Thanks Bill and Thomas
Some pictures of milling the crankcase , I left a flange to attach on the turning table .

PS ; maybe my English is not always correct but I do my f....ng best  :thinking:

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2017, 12:56:30 PM »
PS ; maybe my English is not always correct but I do my f....ng best  :thinking:

Cheers Jef

As we English say "Practise makes perverts perfect" and we don't mind as long as we can watch your engine build thread  :)

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2017, 05:39:46 PM »
More pics of the work on the crankcase  :)

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2017, 09:20:08 PM »
And more pics of the crankcase  ;D

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2017, 01:11:43 AM »
Hi Jef

Looks like you are off to a great start; the work on the crankcase looks very nice!

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2017, 08:33:32 AM »
Thanks Dave , still some more pics of the crankcase  ;D

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2017, 08:38:46 AM »
And finaly the last one's  ::)

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2017, 06:36:39 PM »
The crankcase and backplate are ready , now it's time for the crankshaft , I made it from 42CrMo4 steel

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2017, 10:34:48 PM »
Looking good Jef!  :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp:
I like how you made the crankshaft...

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2017, 02:53:26 PM »
Thanks Yogi  :cheers:

The conrod is made from 7075 aluminium , I hade to make them twice because I was not to happy about the first one , to little body

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2017, 02:56:29 PM »
More photo's of the conrod , the bevels on the smal- and big-end Iturned , in the lenght I used a file .

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2017, 07:34:44 PM »
Nice work so far - I especially like the conrod  :ThumbsUp:

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2017, 10:45:54 AM »
Thanks Admiral_dk  :cheers:

Next some photo's of making the cilinder liner and cover , the liner I made from 42CrMo4 steel , same as the crankshaft and the cover from 6082 aluminium ,
the outside of theliner is a few 1/100 mm larger than the inner of the cover , the liner go's in the freezer and the cover is warming up on the Alladin stove for a shrink fitting
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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2017, 10:50:15 AM »
More pic's of cilinder

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2017, 10:54:09 AM »
And the last one's  ;D

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2017, 11:49:57 AM »
Beautiful workmanship Jef.

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2017, 02:13:48 PM »
Watching along to this!
Thanks for posting Jef.
Steve.

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2017, 07:13:52 PM »
Thankd Thomas and Steve  :cheers:

Making the piston , aluminium 7075

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2017, 06:55:13 PM »
Cilinder head

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2017, 08:26:54 AM »
Very nice work  :praise2:  :praise2: Not too long before the first trials  :)
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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2017, 12:18:27 PM »
I've only just seen this thread Jef - after quite a lay off you have my interest focused ;)

That's some very nice workmanship indeed and a really nice photo coverage of the process :ThumbsUp: :ThumbsUp: I'll look forwards to watching the rest develop and and see and hear it running in due course.

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2017, 06:49:10 PM »
Thanks Roger & Ramon

Some more pics of making the propdriver .

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2017, 06:51:33 PM »
Prop-washer and propnut

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2018, 07:01:16 PM »
Some pictures of the ignition pick-up holder

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2018, 08:46:57 PM »
It can't be long before the first pops  :ThumbsUp:

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2018, 09:49:54 PM »
Yes - nice update Jef :ThumbsUp: - keep it coming.

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2018, 08:33:01 AM »
Almost finiched , I had to make the coverplate transfers , inlet manifold and clean the OS carb. ultrasoon
For the piston ring I used one from an OS FS-62-V , but because thats for a four stroke engine
I had to make a little slot for the piston ring pin , with a jig I made for it ,
so it would not turn around in the cilinder , and I still had to put the pin in the piston ring groove .

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2018, 08:37:39 AM »
Pin in piston ring groove , first drill with 1 mm 5 mm deep , than 1,1 mm 2 mm deep
cut a piece from a 1,1 mm bore and press it in the hole , than gring it to the exact lenght in the lathe .

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2018, 11:20:02 AM »
A very important lock-pin and nicely executed insert  :ThumbsUp:

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #33 on: January 20, 2018, 04:44:09 PM »
Hello Jef,

This is a nice two stroke design. The ports look they are designed for seriuos power output as far i can see.
Do you rely only on the magnetism for the hall magnet to stay in place ?
Will the engine power an airplane model or something similiar ?

I am looking foreward to hear it run !

Best regards,
Thomas

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2018, 06:37:53 PM »
Neatly accomplished Jeff - and a nicely machined piston - you have me wavering ;)

Tug
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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2018, 08:29:06 PM »
Thanks guys  :ThumbsUp:

The power output will be moderate I think , look at the timing photo

The magnet is 4 mm in diameter and pressed in a hole of 3,9 mm ,  I think it's pretty stuck

I am gonna use the engine on a KeilKraft Falcon that I am building

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2018, 08:42:11 PM »

I am gonna use the engine on a KeilKraft Falcon that I am building

Regards Jef

Now that's going to make a real nice combination Jef - lovely design the Falcon  :ThumbsUp:. Do you have a nice set of inflatable wheels for it?

Years ago I set out to make a Jasco Flamingo - do you know it? Similar size but huge wing area - the larger ribs needed near a sheet of balsa  :o. I never did finish it but sold it on - to non other than Ron Moulton would you believe (forgive the name dropping but that's just who bought it). He never finished it either - have no idea what happened to it after he passed on.

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2018, 09:28:36 PM »
Yes , I got a set of 5" inlfatable balloon tires for it  8)

The plans are on outerzone https://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=6950

First run off the engine <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM37c--O9JU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM37c--O9JU</a>

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2018, 10:49:38 PM »
Thanks for the link Jef but my building days are well over I fear  ::)

That's running really nice - pretty consistent and considering it appears open exhaust not too noisy either. What size prop do you have it on there?

Tug

PS just clicked on your link expecting to see your Falcon - yep, that's the one  :)

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2018, 11:07:43 AM »
Great runner Jef  :ThumbsUp:  and thank you for the link  :)

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2018, 10:01:33 PM »
What size prop do you have it on there?

Master Airscrew 14 x 6

Jef

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #41 on: January 24, 2018, 07:53:22 AM »
That's a great result Jef - swings that with consummate ease.

Do you have any drawings you'd be prepared to share - I've yet to make a sparkie and that would fit the bill just nicely  :)

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #42 on: January 24, 2018, 08:20:09 AM »
Do you have any drawings you'd be prepared to share - I've yet to make a sparkie and that would fit the bill just nicely

No problem , I made some PDF's of the inventor drawings and post them in "Plans & Drawings"

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #43 on: January 24, 2018, 08:53:32 AM »
Thanks Jef - that's a really great way to finish a super build log - well done indeed  :ThumbsUp:

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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #44 on: January 29, 2018, 10:08:51 AM »
Looks and sounds good  :praise2:  :praise2: Propellers always scare me  :o
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Re: JLE 14cc Petrol airplane engine
« Reply #45 on: January 29, 2018, 11:43:50 AM »
Jeff what a beautiful piece of craftsmanship. The engine sounds good too.  :ThumbsUp: Do you have plans to later install an expansion exhaust?

 

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