Hegner Scroll Saw

[Jo]

Ok, so I had a scroll saw (blue thingy in the background)  and it was not very good  It did prove a little useful for pattern making so when I saw this one I questioned it. Then my Supplier told me that other than it missing varispeed I needed it  So he put it in the back of his car and dropped it home for me 

I am hoping it will cut metal  and I am already aware of it being an early one without the toggle clamp on the blade but I have come up with a cheap way of doing that 

And I am not impressed with its mounting arrangement  the previous owner would seem to have used it in his folding workstand/workmate 


Thoughts gentlemen...

Jo

[cfellows]

I've been watching some youtube videos and reading a bit about scroll saws.  Apparently the blade you use is every bit as important if not more so than the scroll saw itself.  Look for some good, metal-cutting blades like these:

https://www.amazon.com/Pegas-Swiss-Cutting-Platinum-Sawblades/dp/B00MWB3UT8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1502636974&sr=8-2&keywords=metal+cutting+scroll+saw+blades

Chuck

[Bluechip]

Looks much the same as mine ... MultiCut -2. not variable speed.

Bought mine years ago. Used it a lot when I was into boats then it got ignored for about 20 years 

Blades are crucial ... use the Hegner ones, they do work. Others are a lottery ...

I did get some from ebay that were just as good but a lot cheaper but forget where, but others I have used ^[1] were absolute rubbish.



Dave

[1] 'Used' is boasting, they don't last long enough to be tensioned .....   

[Jo]

Snap 

Thanks Guys for the advice on the blades. It looks like this machine has not been used, or at least has next to no use only three of the blades are missing and all of the original Hegner ones are still there  I found some Indian jeweller's blades that I will assume are substandard and only fit for wood or plastic use. I also have some German blades but not many are metal cutting blades 

The machine is off that horrible bit of  chipboard. Seems to run ok, its a heavy old lump.... I also picked up a RS foot switch than I was thinking of fitting to it 

Jo

[gerritv]

Jo, they're also useful for other things like sanding: http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=65465&cat=1,42500

I have a very old Sears scroll saw that will soon have its filing option in full use again. They came with 1/4" holder for files with an adapter used for blades.

[Bluechip]

Snap 

Thanks Guys for the advice on the blades. It looks like this machine has not been used, or at least has next to no use only three of the blades are missing and all of the original Hegner ones are still there  I found some Indian jeweller's blades that I will assume are substandard and only fit for wood or plastic use. I also have some German blades but not many are metal cutting blades 

The machine is off that horrible bit of  chipboard. Seems to run ok, its a heavy old lump.... I also picked up a RS foot switch than I was thinking of fitting to it 

Jo

https://www.hegner.co.uk/products/spares-accessories/scrollsaw-blades-accessories/scrollsaw-blades/blade-selection-packs.html

Beware some really horrendous prices on Amazon for Hegner blades.... 

Try the Indian blades, don't write them off until you know they're unsuitable.

If you're chomping at soft stuff, ie. 6082 and the like, the wood blades seem to work reasonably well providing you use a suitable TPI 

Dave

[Jo]

Thanks Gerrit, that is an interesting idea. I did think about converting the old fret saw to a filing machine but I suspect there are much better designs around.

Wow Dave, it looks like Hagner are one of the cheapest place for blades. Before I go spending more moths  I think I may need to have a play with these. I'm tempted to put the machine out in the Porkiebin for now but I have a tendency to forget about my third workshop and the goodies out there     

Jo

[Bluechip]

Porkiebin ?   Wossat ?

Dave

[Jo]

Porkiebin ?   Wossat ?

PortaKabin.... Those leaky units you see all over industrial sites, used as site offices. Dave, I thought you had seen the one I had down the end of the garden, 20ft by 10ft shed in anyone else's language. Insulation less than 1" so you froze in winter and cooked in summer and the roof water proofing never lasted that long so you ended up with a build in shower when ever it rained. Mine now sports a corrugated iron roof (which the birds think is wonderful with all those wobbly holes along the edges as it provides a good nesting site in the spring: but I wouldn't like to be a chick under there on a spring hot day ). I intend on replacing the insulation with some modern (cheap, preferably free  ) stuff when the opportunity arises.

The lack of insulation means is not good for storing veggies as spring turns to summer But For the last few years that has been my veggie storage unit 

Jo

[Jasonb]

It is good for making steel go rusty though

[Bluechip]

Portakabin     ... Thank God for that, I was having all sorts of lurid thoughts involving pigs ... 

Insulation ????   I have a fair bit of this left over from doing out my garage:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B016ADKDG6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I would think maybe half left.

Any good 2 U ?

Dave

Thinking about it, probably more than half left  ...

[Jo]

Insulation ????   I have a fair bit of this left over from doing out my garage:

Any good 2 U ?

Yes, that would be handy. I was thinking about fibre glass stuff but the idea of trying to fit it above my head with the dust showering down and Celotex would cost more than the Porkiebin is worth.

Jo

[Bluechip]

Yours !!!
Another bit I don't have to drag to the tip ... 

Dave

[Jasonb]

You can buy slightly damaged Celotex/kingspan for a lot less than new, usually has a few dings, punctured foil and the odd missing corner.

I've only used the multilayer quilt once but seems to work well provided you avoid squashing it and a lot easier to put into the back of a Scooby then fibreglass or rigid boards. 

[Bluechip]

I used that stuff as a vapour barrier.
It's not like the 'aluminised bubble wrap'. It's thin, 3-4mm at a guess.
Although it does seem to make the garage warmer ... 
Err ... either that or the generous dollops of Lamb's Navy Rum in my coffee .. 

Not being in the trade I don't really know.  I only had some 25-30mm between the concrete panels and the ( now ) 11mm OSB3 inner skin and I wasn't about to
indulge in even more flamin' civil engineering to make room for anything thicker.  Noooooo Sireee  I weren't...






Dave