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Kim,Sorry you misunderstood me, or I was not clear. When I go to the coppermine.sourceforge.net website I download a zip file titled, cpg1.5.46zip. Which when I double click on it opens cpg15x and double clicking on that gives me an index with files starting with, albums then bridge, about 20 or so .php files interspersed with .txt files ending with zipdownload.php nothing is installed. needless to say I didn't get far in the tutorial cause I had to start over every time I left it. I use SeaMonkey as my browser but Chrome or IE don't make any difference. If I could even get to the point where your explanation starts I'm sure it would be self explanatory. Am I downloading the wrong file? If so what should It be titled. I never had so much trouble and can usually figure it out but this defies logic.On use.com this is the best I can accomplish.[/URL][/CENTER][/img]Don't even get me started on the tutorial for internet explorer that you cant pause while you try to figure out how to do something in a program I don't use.This is the only way I can get it to point to any image. What the am I doing wrong. Art