Author Topic: Dubious honour (Read 13745 times)

metalmad · « **on:** July 20, 2012, 02:54:50 PM »

Hi Guys
I started my new build on this brand new site today and after about 5 minutes I noticed my Karma shoot up to the heady heights of 2

and then shortly after that I was on negative 2

I therefore claim the dubious honour of being the first victim of the dreaded Smite attack, or as my friends put it
They needed to try it out on someone

ummmmmmmmmm guys, is this safe????????
Pete

AdeV · « **Reply #1 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:05:39 PM »

This is why I'm not a big fan of karma....

I don't know who/why I'm afraid. Not sure I can find out either. We could probably machine up a trophy for you though?

I think I will turn off smiting, if I can work out how. & will discuss with other admins the whole karma thing. I'm more inclined to allow a "thanks for this post" type system.

metalmad · « **Reply #2 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:23:49 PM »

my friends were just having a little fun at my expense and it was not meant in any way to be taken seriously

But after the three of us stopped laughing, I got to thinking this could really be abused badly ( we were in a 3 way skype conference at the time and it really was very funny

)
I don't want to ruin Kama for everyone but its only a matter of time before someone smites someone in earnest
it could get messy!!
Pete

arnoldb · « **Reply #3 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:32:44 PM »

Pete, the admin already removed the smite option - so Karma will now be back to the way we're used to it

Kind regards, Arnold

metalmad · « **Reply #4 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:36:07 PM »

Hi Arnold
does that mean I don't get my trophy

Pete

PS
One thing I did not like on TOS was a growing tendency to use Kama as a form of currency.
Personally I felt that went against the spirit of Karma as I saw it

arnoldb · « **Reply #5 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:49:14 PM »

Nah Mate - Here you go

Just had to prep it a bit

Kind regards, Arnold

metalmad · « **Reply #6 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:56:45 PM »

ummmm Thanks Mate
but really u shouldn't have

Pete

AdeV · « **Reply #7 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:56:56 PM »

Arnold - that looks just like the one I was preparing

We need more smileys....

metalmad · « **Reply #8 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:59:58 PM »

gguys what can I say------ My cup runnth over

DaveH · « **Reply #9 on:** July 20, 2012, 04:04:42 PM »

Quote from: admin on July 20, 2012, 03:05:39 PM

This is why I'm not a big fan of karma....

I agree, it's childish. It doesn't really serve any positive purpose.

DaveH

AdeV · « **Reply #10 on:** July 20, 2012, 04:06:07 PM »

Quote from: metalmad on July 20, 2012, 03:59:58 PM

gguys what can I say------ My cup runnth over

Hmm, your cup runneth out more than anything, that's why it ended up looking like it did

metalmad · « **Reply #11 on:** July 20, 2012, 04:27:35 PM »

Well I do tend to drink straight from the bottle these days more and more so looks arnt everything

Anzaniste · « **Reply #12 on:** July 22, 2012, 04:55:14 AM »

As a matter of interest what is this karma thing? Is it explained somewhere?

tel · « **Reply #13 on:** July 22, 2012, 08:57:02 AM »

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One thing I did not like on TOS was a growing tendency to use Kama as a form of currency.
Personally I felt that went against the spirit of Karma as I saw it

That's very true, and a couple over there were openly touting for Karma points - not the way it should work at all.

Ken I · « **Reply #14 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:29:56 AM »

Tel, I agree in spite of my being one of the Trolls - I think there needs to be a sticky post on the karma system.

I was on that site for months before I realised what it was and how it worked.

Until this post I didn't even know there was such a thing as a "smite" which also seems against the spirit of things - it certainly would not cross my mind to use it.

I noticed that I tended to get karma points for downloaded plans - but it seemed highly variable, when 200+ people download a set of plans and not a karma point one wonders.

Then I noticed someone else suggesting that a karma point be in order if you used the plans - So I tried that - you yourself "paid" me a point for my Mendocino motor.

If this is against the spirit, I won't do so in future - but I think some guidelines are in order.

As regards it being childish, perhaps, but I found them motivational - particularly in so much as prompting me to do the extra work of producing usable drawings and detailed threads which seem to get the most KP points which to my mind is as it should be.

Regards,
Ken

tel · « **Reply #15 on:** July 22, 2012, 12:23:36 PM »

I wasn't taking a swipe at you Ken - those plans were well worth a point!

Ken I · « **Reply #16 on:** July 22, 2012, 02:11:01 PM »

Tel, I wasn't taking any offence at all, merely seeking clarity on the karma system and the appropriateness of statements like "they aint free, they'll cost'ee a karma point" which is admittedly trolling for points - but there is obviously no obligation.

Regards,
Ken

P.S. - love the hat.

Bearcar1 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 22, 2012, 03:44:03 PM »

Quote from: metalmad on July 20, 2012, 03:59:58 PM

gguys what can I say------ My cup runnth over

Oh great, another mess in the shop to clean up

BC1
Jim

Dean W · « **Reply #18 on:** July 22, 2012, 07:11:50 PM »

I would prefer the whole karma thing be dumped. After seeing the abuse it took on the other place, with one particular
member soliciting karma for every little thing he did, I don't see the good of the whole thing. It seems to be simply
bragging rights for certain folks, and if any of us deserve bragging rights, let it be simply from the quality of work we show
here. If we are doing something that is appreciated by others, the replies in your threads should be enough. If one is
here with a mind to be "rewarded" by some kind of points system, I think they are here for the wrong reason.

Bogstandard · « **Reply #19 on:** July 22, 2012, 08:56:03 PM »

I turned Karma on at the end of the first day.

This was because, if used correctly, that is if someone does an outstanding post and you really enjoyed it, you awarded a point.

Because of complaints, it is now turned off, and will NOT be reinstated.

John

spuddevans · « **Reply #20 on:** July 22, 2012, 09:09:13 PM »

Quote from: Bogstandard on July 22, 2012, 08:56:03 PM

Because of complaints, it is now turned off, and will NOT be reinstated.

Umm.... I've just applauded both you and Dean, seems like it still is operational.

Tim

Bogstandard · « **Reply #21 on:** July 22, 2012, 09:28:25 PM »

Not any more Tim, it just needed a bit of time to get ~~working~~ unworking

John

spuddevans · « **Reply #22 on:** July 22, 2012, 09:33:10 PM »

That's done the trick, me and my usual haste to post.

Good decision BTW, less chasing of "points" and more sharing of info and knowledge.

Tim

mklotz · « **Reply #23 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:11:43 PM »

Good decision. Gold stars are something for kindergarten.

Incidentally, Dean, that member you spoke of, soliciting karma for every little thing he did, has been whining away in several posts over there about getting his karma back. It's actually kind of embarrassing to watch.

Troutsqueezer · « **Reply #24 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:21:01 PM »

My Karma comes back to haunt me everyday of my life as it is. Don't anymore than I already have.

Maryak · « **Reply #25 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:37:06 PM »

Karma mea mine,
Now no more to whine,
It's gone from now,
Until the end of time.

Now about those models.................................

mklotz · « **Reply #26 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:39:56 PM »

Quote from: Maryak on July 22, 2012, 10:37:06 PM

Karma mea mine,
Now no more to whine,
It's gone from now,
Until the end of time.

Keep your day job, Bob.

tel · « **Reply #27 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:41:06 PM »

Yeah, who let the 'poet' in?

Dean W · « **Reply #28 on:** July 22, 2012, 11:08:02 PM »

Quote from: mklotz on July 22, 2012, 10:11:43 PM

Good decision. Gold stars are something for kindergarten.

Incidentally, Dean, that member you spoke of, soliciting karma for every little thing he did, has been whining away in several posts over there about getting his karma back. It's actually kind of embarrassing to watch.

A bit pathetic and sad, really. On with the new life!

Maryak · « **Reply #29 on:** July 23, 2012, 01:04:04 AM »

Quote from: mklotz on July 22, 2012, 10:39:56 PM

Keep your day job, Bob.

I'm retired and idle minds are the devils playground.

Quote from: tel on July 22, 2012, 10:41:06 PM

Yeah, who let the 'poet' in?

Every Friday is poets day.

Hint.............. the the last 3 letters of POETS represent early tomorrow's Saturday

Dan Rowe · « **Reply #30 on:** July 23, 2012, 01:17:39 AM »

Quote from: mklotz on July 22, 2012, 10:11:43 PM

Good decision. Gold stars are something for kindergarten.

Marv,
Gold stars can also be used for comic relief. I had them in my notebook when I went to sea and I have whipped them out and stuck them on other members of the black gang when the notion struck. I even bagged the chief mate one day.

Cheers Dan

metalmad · « **Reply #31 on:** July 23, 2012, 11:55:27 AM »

Quote from: Bogstandard on July 22, 2012, 08:56:03 PM

I turned Karma on at the end of the first day.

This was because, if used correctly, that is if someone does an outstanding post and you really enjoyed it, you awarded a point.

Because of complaints, it is now turned off, and will NOT be reinstated.

John
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Hi Guys
I see there have been changes since I last logged on
I would like to communicate my apologies to the community at large as my concerns were more to do with the smites then the Karma as I felt they could not help but be abused sooner or later.
I now feel responsible for removing something from the site that many members liked.
It was not my intention
Pete

AdeV · « **Reply #32 on:** July 23, 2012, 01:29:25 PM »

Quote from: metalmad on July 23, 2012, 11:55:27 AM

Quote from: Bogstandard on July 22, 2012, 08:56:03 PM
I turned Karma on at the end of the first day.

This was because, if used correctly, that is if someone does an outstanding post and you really enjoyed it, you awarded a point.

Because of complaints, it is now turned off, and will NOT be reinstated.

John
Hi Guys
I see there have been changes since I last logged on
I would like to communicate my apologies to the community at large as my concerns were more to do with the smites then the Karma as I felt they could not help but be abused sooner or later.
I now feel responsible for removing something from the site that many members liked.
It was not my intention
Pete

Pete.

Don't feel bad.

The Admins had already pretty much decided the Karma system wasn't going to add anything to the forum. I've seen "Karma" in various guises in varius forums over the years, and not once has it added anything except grief.

So, even had this topic not existed, the karma option would have been turned off again...

I personally am tempted to look at some kind of "this post was useful to me" marker, but that will be post-based not member based, if you see what I mean.

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Author Topic: Dubious honour (Read 13745 times)

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