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Re: Zee's Shop Beginnings
« Reply #180 on: February 18, 2017, 09:55:04 PM »
Why single point threading?

You can't get a tap big enough to make an accessory to fit on your lathe spindle.  Even if you could, you're not strong enough to turn it.

The nose on your Dremel has an oddball, proprietary thread.  You want to make an accessory.  Similar situation with lots of tools.

You're making a measuring instrument and the drunken thread resulting from a tap/die just isn't going to cut it.

You want to make a camera filter accessory for your camera and you can't find a die to cut a 1 mm pitch thread on something two inches in diameter.

You want to make a draw-in nut for your 5C collet and the tap costs $400.  (The tap wrench is another $100)

And, finally, you don't want to risk having smart asses like me in the future tell you, "I told you that you needed single point threading capability."
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Re: Zee's Shop Beginnings
« Reply #181 on: February 18, 2017, 09:58:00 PM »
Why single point threading?

You can't get a tap big enough to make an accessory to fit on your lathe spindle.  Even if you could, you're not strong enough to turn it.

The nose on your Dremel has an oddball, proprietary thread.  You want to make an accessory.  Similar situation with lots of tools.

You're making a measuring instrument and the drunken thread resulting from a tap/die just isn't going to cut it.

You want to make a camera filter accessory for your camera and you can't find a die to cut a 1 mm pitch thread on something two inches in diameter.

You want to make a draw-in nut for your 5C collet and the tap costs $400.  (The tap wrench is another $100)

And, finally, you don't want to risk having smart asses like me in the future tell you, "I told you that you needed single point threading capability."

There's always that one feature or issue that sells a person on an idea...

It's that last one. I'm sold  ;D
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Re: Zee's Shop Beginnings
« Reply #182 on: February 18, 2017, 10:08:59 PM »
Yeah, I win a lot of arguments with that gambit. :-)
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Re: Zee's Shop Beginnings
« Reply #183 on: February 18, 2017, 10:41:44 PM »
I'm just glad you took our advise and decided to install a sink!  :lolb:


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Re: Zee's Shop Beginnings
« Reply #184 on: February 18, 2017, 10:59:25 PM »
I'm just glad you took our advise and decided to install a sink!  :lolb:

It was always in the plans. Up to now, I had to use the kitchen or powder room.
You can imagine the results...

"Who did this!!!"
"What's this junk!!!"
"What are you doing!!!"

As I said before...happiness is keeping her happy.

That may sound a bit chauvinistic but it's not.
My philosophy applies to anyone. Make them happy...you'll be happy.

For Cletus...

Tonight is stir fry shrimp. Rice, peppers, green beans and some white wine.
It's pretty amazing what she can do with a temporary kitchen.
More amazing that she doesn't let project stop her from creating great meals.

What a second.

I'm beginning to think this isn't about me.  :thinking:
She likes her good food too.
Crap! This isn't about making me good meals. It's about her having a good meal.

Ah well. That's cool. Still a win.
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Re: Zee's Shop Beginnings
« Reply #185 on: February 19, 2017, 12:42:15 AM »
I think we need a cooking thread! I made bitterballen the other day, lovely snacks and better homemade than store bought.
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Re: Zee's Shop Beginnings
« Reply #186 on: February 19, 2017, 01:37:50 AM »
Zee,
I think that the PM25 price includes shipping.  If you are going to pick up in Pittsburg Matt will deduct the shipping charge.  Also, I believe he will take off about 3% for cash/check.
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Re: Zee's Shop Beginnings
« Reply #187 on: February 19, 2017, 12:52:32 PM »
I think we need a cooking thread! I made bitterballen the other day, lovely snacks and better homemade than store bought.

I had to look that one up. Yum!!

I think that the PM25 price includes shipping.  If you are going to pick up in Pittsburg Matt will deduct the shipping charge.  Also, I believe he will take off about 3% for cash/check.

Yes. The PM25 has free shipping. Good to know about the 3%. That would help. Thanks.
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Re: Zee's Shop Beginnings
« Reply #188 on: February 20, 2017, 02:42:30 PM »
I know I'm late.

Yes, get the threading gearbox.  I'm not reading the specs for the machines you list, but what is the range of threads for the gearbox? Does the range include the threads you might want to cut in your situation? (In my dreams for a new lathe I think I will want to do small metric threads and quite a few specs stop short of what I think I would want.) Does the range of speed available include low enough for careful threading and high enough for what you might want to finish small parts?

Don't forget to compare the accessories that come with your choice. I see the same basic (It appears) lathe listed from different vendors, but one includes only 3-jaw chuck and the other includes 3-jaw, 4-jaw, faceplace, steady rest, follow rest.

Will you be adding QCTP, DRO, etc. right away or can it wait?

Thank you for asking us to spend your money for you (chuckle)

Seriously, I'm enjoying your shop build. Thanks for posting.

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Re: Zee's Shop Beginnings
« Reply #189 on: February 20, 2017, 02:58:12 PM »
Thanks ShopShoe,

PM1030                                                   G0752
8-56TPI, 21 threads (imperial)                8-72TPI, 33 threads (imperial)
0.2mm to 3.5mm pitch (metric)              0.25mm to 3.5mm, 26 threads (metric)
thread chasing dial                                   not mentioned
gear box not mentioned                           gear box not mentioned
50-2000 variable speed                            100-2000 variable speed

Pretty much the same accessories except:
G0752 has 6 1/2 4-jaw while the PM is 5"
PM has power cross feed
PM comes with QCTP. If I go for the G0752 I would get one pretty quickly.
I would wait on DRO except I'd like to add something to the tail stock quill.

As for threading...I have no idea about future needs. Most anything I've done I can get off-the-shelf or use a die.
Seems I'd be looking at the odd-ball thread or large threads and that seems it would likely be repairs.
Not something I'd be planning for.
If I go for the G0752 which has a threaded spindle...then that may be of concern/interest.

Still leaning very much to the PM machines.
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Re: Zee's Shop Beginnings
« Reply #190 on: February 20, 2017, 04:10:17 PM »
Zee    what's the spindle noses on both lathes?

If it's threaded, make sure the lathe will be able to cut the same thread pitch as the spindle nose.

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Re: Zee's Shop Beginnings
« Reply #191 on: February 20, 2017, 06:40:22 PM »
Spindle Bore on both is 1"
Spindle Taper on both is MT#4
Direct mount for PM. For Grizzly 1-3/4, 8TPI

Is that what you mean by 'spindle nose'? (I don't see such reference in the specs.)
As to the question, you're asking if I could make a thread for the spindle? I'm assuming so but  :shrug:

and now for something completely different...

Anyone know/use Insteon?
Anyone gone solar? We're in PA and considering it. Wouldn't lease. Seems to make more sense to purchase particularly, as I understand it, a decent federal tax rebate is available.

I saw the post about kids wanting purchase tools but never making anything.
I hope I'm not one of them.  ;D
Nah. I've got projects lined up.

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Re: Zee's Shop Beginnings
« Reply #192 on: February 20, 2017, 06:46:27 PM »
Spindle Bore on both is 1"
Spindle Taper on both is MT#4
Direct mount for PM. For Grizzly 1-3/4, 8TPI

Is that what you mean by 'spindle nose'? (I don't see such reference in the specs.)
As to the question, you're asking if I could make a thread for the spindle? I'm assuming so but  :shrug:

and now for something completely different...

Anyone know/use Insteon?
Anyone gone solar? We're in PA and considering it. Wouldn't lease. Seems to make more sense to purchase particularly, as I understand it, a decent federal tax rebate is available.

I saw the post about kids wanting purchase tools but never making anything.
I hope I'm not one of them.  ;D
Nah. I've got projects lined up.

Yes...make sure that the Grizzly can turn an 8 pitch thread.  The other one is direct mount, so it's just a flange with some screws.   

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Re: Zee's Shop Beginnings
« Reply #193 on: February 26, 2017, 03:11:23 PM »
A little update...

Decking started. Still have rails and steps to put in.


Another shot showing one big boo-boo. The left-most door goes to what used to be the dining room and is now T's office.
It's too small  :cussing: Was supposed to be 6' wide but is 5'. Makes it a bit more difficult to go in and out.
Although T is slim, she's 6' tall and will be carrying gardening stuff in and out.

It will be replaced. $$$



And a shot outside my workshop.



Apologies to Don. I tried yet again to upload the dance video. Stuck again.
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Re: Zee's Shop Beginnings
« Reply #194 on: February 26, 2017, 03:28:21 PM »
Wow Zee............that's more than a "little update"! Looks like major progress. I bet the next update shows the BBQ and chairs on the deck!  :LickLips: :DrinkPint:

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