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« Reply #45 on: January 29, 2017, 08:56:03 PM »
Have you tried using YouTube for the videos? I've had good luck there, you can still mark them Unlisted so they dont show up in the normal YouTube lists while being able to share them here. Photobucket does die around 90% a lot if you have an adblocker or flashblocker going, unless you allow just the right things through.

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« Reply #46 on: January 29, 2017, 10:20:44 PM »
Thanks Chris. Good to know.

I've never posted to YouTube. I'll have to give it a try.
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« Reply #47 on: January 29, 2017, 11:40:13 PM »
It's never easy.
Some of the replies have given me pause with respect to lathe choice.
And a little digging turns up a possible problem with my 1st choice - the G0752.

It sounds like it has a funny spindle thread making it difficult to attach a collet chuck.

I'm inclined to stick with Grizzly. Primarily because it's more of a known quantity and loads of people use them. I must admit to a bit of bias in that a main warehouse is in/near my home town which is silly because it's 1000 miles away now and I'm lucky to visit once a year.)

Ideally...

Variable speed
Able to attach a collet chuck
5" or bigger 3-jaw and 4-jaw
Able to turn up to 5" flywheel (bigger would be nice but that would be pretty rare).
QC available
Y distance not a biggie
Sounds like power cross feed is nice but I have no experience.

Mainly...I don't want an oddball. And seeing there's a funny spindle thread (if true) puts me off.


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« Reply #48 on: January 29, 2017, 11:49:19 PM »
Funny spindle thread?  Surely you're going to buy a lathe with a quick change gearbox and learn to cut threads. After that the world is your oyster.

One of the first things I did after buying my (Enco) lathe was to make a collet chuck for it. 
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« Reply #49 on: January 30, 2017, 12:48:36 AM »

Mainly...I don't want an oddball. And seeing there's a funny spindle thread (if true) puts me off.

Spindle is 1 3/4-8tpi. Not common but: Both Grizzly and LMS sell back plates for a reasonable price. How often do you need to add one? Once you make an ER32 or ER40 collet chuck (using a back plate) then you are done with that. And you can always cut the threads yourself in a moment of madness.
The chucks have locking tabs for those situations where you want/need to run in reverse.
I have a used 2003 vintage King KC1022ML, essentially a G0602. It was missing some parts, happily obtained via Grizzly. I think parts support is something worthwhile.

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« Reply #50 on: January 30, 2017, 12:57:15 AM »
Wow. I'd been at this for a while but I'm realizing how little I know.
Yep...going to have to learn about back plates etc.

As for threading...I don't really expect to do much of that. On the other hand, I don't want to get 'screwed' the one time I would need to.  ;D

Regarding the collet chuck...I'm thinking of all the posts I've seen with small diameter round and/or hex parts. Seems a real nice to have.
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« Reply #51 on: January 30, 2017, 01:27:33 AM »
So what was leftover and how was it. I can't imagine a stinking hoppie drinking kind of feller having any steak leftover  :lolb: :lolb:

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« Reply #52 on: January 30, 2017, 02:23:30 AM »
Looks like your shop is coming along really well. I am now starting another round of renovations on my house(s) and I will be moving my lathe and grinder and band saw into the reasonably nice room where I have my mill/drill. I would like to have the lathe and workbench at the windows, but they are very low and would be mostly obscured by the chip guard of the lathe and the tool hanging panel in the back of the workbench. I may buy the Harbor Freight four-drawer wooden workbench for the lathe, and I will probable put casters on it so it can be moved (like the home-made bench for the mill).

As for a name, how about "A to Zee Metal Health Clinic"?  :Lol:

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Re: Zee's Shop Beginnings
« Reply #53 on: January 30, 2017, 03:20:40 AM »
There are three basic ways to get a collet chuck on the lathe:
1. Buy an ER40-MT4 collet chuck, make a draw bar and buy good collets. http://www.shars.com/products/toolholding-workholding/tool-holders/morse-taper-4-er40-er-collet-holder
2. Buy or make an ER40 collet chuck to mount on a back plate. http://www.littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=5452&category=
3. Make one to screw directly onto the spindle: http://www.projectsinmetal.com/two-handy-accessories-for-your-g0602-lathe-part-2-an-er40-chuck-adapter/

In fact that site has a lot of good info on the G0602, the belt swap version of G0752

The reason you need a collet chuck is to allow working on a piece of material, taking it out for another operation and putting it back with good concentricity assured.

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Re: Zee's Shop Beginnings
« Reply #54 on: January 30, 2017, 05:21:41 AM »
Hello.
If you like to have it a German name,what about
Zees Zerspanungsschuppen?(Zee's chipping shed)
Btw.
The word "Schmarn"is genuine bavarian German.
In Bavaria Schmarn has the meaning of a joke,nonsense,rubbish or bullshit.
Kaiserschmarren is more or less a shredded pancake.

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« Reply #55 on: January 30, 2017, 10:38:06 PM »
The word "Schmarn"is genuine bavarian German.
In Bavaria Schmarn has the meaning of a joke,nonsense,rubbish or bullshit.
Kaiserschmarren is more or less a shredded pancake.

Thank you!
Wow. After all these years I realize now she was saying 'schmarren'
From wiki...Schmarren is also a colloquialism used in Austrian and Bavarian to mean trifle, mishmash, mess, rubbish, or nonsense.
I remember her saying it meant 'mess'.

The reason you need a collet chuck is to allow working on a piece of material, taking it out for another operation and putting it back with good concentricity assured.

Thanks for the info Gerrit. And yes that's why I'm interested.

Paul...too many words.  :D Nor do I want to include A to Y  :ROFL:
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« Reply #56 on: January 30, 2017, 10:45:51 PM »
Forgot about Cletus (so easy to do)...

I thought it was left-over steak and taters but she surprised me with her special lamb stew. Good stuff!

And before you ask, tonight is some kind of chicken dish my daughter made. I'm hoping for her killer curry chicken but I'm thinking it's something else.

T and K do a meal swap every weekend. Saves them work, me dishes, and they're both wonderful cooks.

And that's the menu for today.
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« Reply #57 on: January 30, 2017, 11:16:38 PM »
Why collets...

Repeatable concentricity has already been mentioned.

Secure holding of very small diameter stock.

Auto-centering of square stock (with square collets, of course)

Nothing to grab your hands or clothing when working close-in with hand tools, e.g. files, sanding wands, etc.

Ability to use pot chucks for thin disk shaped workpieces.
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Re: Zee's Shop Beginnings
« Reply #58 on: January 30, 2017, 11:41:30 PM »
Marv, what is a pot chuck? I haven't heard that term before.

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Re: Zee's Shop Beginnings
« Reply #59 on: January 31, 2017, 12:27:28 AM »
Marv, what is a pot chuck? I haven't heard that term before.

I know............I know!! It's Pot Roast made with Chuck Roast!  :LickLips: Did I get it right!   :naughty:

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