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Offline Stuart

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Re: CONWAY 0-4-0 3 1/2" GAUGE LOCO
« Reply #210 on: September 22, 2017, 07:53:11 PM »
Rich
 to fit longitudinal stays you need some me constant pitch taps and dies

you use say a 32tpi set then you thread the stay say 1/4 32 tpi now your boiler bush must be the same tpi but bigger

next you make up a nipple thread the OD to 32 tpi to fit the bush and then tap the id to 1/4 32tpi

by using the same thread pitch it will screw on to the stay and into the bush

this is normally used to fit a hollow stay for a blower but can be used for solid stays

glad to see some one else from the EM on here

Stuart

google my place name and you will see same neck of the woods
My aim is for a accurate part with a good finish

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Re: CONWAY 0-4-0 3 1/2" GAUGE LOCO
« Reply #211 on: September 22, 2017, 08:00:39 PM »
Stay nipples are quite simple, something like this just enlarged proportionally to suite your thread sizes


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Re: CONWAY 0-4-0 3 1/2" GAUGE LOCO
« Reply #212 on: September 23, 2017, 04:06:34 PM »
Hi

Thanks Jason and Stuart.  :ThumbsUp:

The nipples are not drilled right through? They seal onto the threaded bush with a copper washer?

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Rich

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« Reply #213 on: September 23, 2017, 04:13:39 PM »
Drilled and tapped right through, soldered to seal.

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Re: CONWAY 0-4-0 3 1/2" GAUGE LOCO
« Reply #214 on: September 24, 2017, 10:19:48 AM »
Hi

Thanks Jason.

Is there a reason for making the stays this way? :thinking:

Would it not be easier to just silver solder the stays directly into the smoke box tube plate and back head, or do the threaded nipples add mechanical strength?

I assume that since the nipples are silver soldered to the boiler and become part of it they must be made from phosphor bronze or gun metal not brass. There is no mention of them on the plans.

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Rich

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Re: CONWAY 0-4-0 3 1/2" GAUGE LOCO
« Reply #215 on: September 24, 2017, 11:25:48 AM »
Hi

Some more boiler work.

An hour or so in the woodworking department to make a couple of formers



Annealing the copper plate for the outer wrapper



Bending the outer wrapper around the former. This has a clamp fitted to hold the plate in position



The inner wrapper being shaped





make 2 bushes for the top of the outer wrapper, one for the safety valve and here one for the manifold



Drill 2 holes in the outer wrapper with a step drill





The 15 fire tubes are cut to length and have there ends turned square. The super heater tube had to be held using a fixed steady



Cheers

Rich

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Re: CONWAY 0-4-0 3 1/2" GAUGE LOCO
« Reply #216 on: September 24, 2017, 04:57:18 PM »
Hi

One more photo



Cheers

Rich

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Re: CONWAY 0-4-0 3 1/2" GAUGE LOCO
« Reply #217 on: September 24, 2017, 06:24:41 PM »
Really coming along great!!

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« Reply #218 on: September 24, 2017, 08:51:09 PM »
Looking good.
Saw it all this morning.
You catching up with my Simplex. We will have to "launch" them at the club together!!

Julian

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Re: CONWAY 0-4-0 3 1/2" GAUGE LOCO
« Reply #219 on: September 24, 2017, 09:32:48 PM »
Nice work on the boiler Rich.


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Re: CONWAY 0-4-0 3 1/2" GAUGE LOCO
« Reply #220 on: September 24, 2017, 09:33:01 PM »
Hi,
Afetr we discussed the bushes for the blower stay here's the ones I made for my Simplex. They have the bush and the nipple. The nipples have a connection for the pipes that will fit onto them. I will seal them in with loctite thread seal or ptfe.

Figured the big pics.
Julian
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Re: CONWAY 0-4-0 3 1/2" GAUGE LOCO
« Reply #221 on: September 28, 2017, 09:14:13 PM »
Hi

Thanks Crueby, Nick and Julian

A bit more boiler work, the crown stays.

Make a cardboard template and mark out for 4 pieces on 1/16" copper



After shaping



The 4 pieces are bent to make feet and a central piece made also from 1/16" copper. drilled with 1/16" copper rivets pushed in but not riveted yet





All the pieces are in the pickle now.

While they are in the pickle I have made a start on the regulator inner dome. I have a piece of thick walled brass tube that needs to be machined to size. I made a mandrel to machine the outside



Turn the outside to size





In the 3 jaw with fixed steady support to bore the inside



Cheers

Rich


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Re: CONWAY 0-4-0 3 1/2" GAUGE LOCO
« Reply #222 on: September 28, 2017, 09:37:54 PM »
Interesting how the crown stays are done, do they touch the inside of the outer shell too?

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Re: CONWAY 0-4-0 3 1/2" GAUGE LOCO
« Reply #223 on: September 29, 2017, 09:01:10 PM »
Hi Crueby

No they don't attach to the outer wrapper they just reienforce the firebox wrapper

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Rich

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Re: CONWAY 0-4-0 3 1/2" GAUGE LOCO
« Reply #224 on: September 30, 2017, 05:08:37 PM »
Hi

Some more boiler work

All the tubes have a few thou turned off for 3/16"



I used my parting off blade as a length guage



Hand wind some silver solder round a bit of 1/2" bar



Cut into rings



File some nicks into each of the tube holes in the firebox tube plate so that the silver solder will flow through



Drop all the tubes into the well fluxed tube plate and add the silver solder rings



Fit the smoke box tube plate to the front end to help keep them in line.



Ready to be silver soldered



After silver soldering



After a while in the pickle





I think I've got it  :cartwheel: :cheers:

A mock up to check on progress








Cheers

Rich

 

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