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Online Roger B

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New Chucks
« on: November 27, 2016, 10:19:33 AM »
I thought that the Pratt Burnard 4 jaw independent chuck that came with my Hobbymat was a little light for some of the abuse I give it. I found a TOS 85mm front fixing chuck of somewhat heavier build and with a 62mm recess at an acceptable price.
To be able to use it I had to bore the recess out to 63 mm and make some rear fixing holes. I carefully trued the chuck onto the lathe flange and bored the recess to match the one on the TOS 3 jaw sc chuck. The fixing holes were set out using a protractor on the chuck jaws. Result a nice smooth fit with no discernible play  :cartwheel:

I will now make 2 new backplates to use the PB 4 jaw and the TOS chucks on my RT. I have a length of 90mm cast iron for this (but I will cheat and take it into work to cut some slices  ::) )

I also have a TOS 4 jaw sc on order.
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Re: New Chucks
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2016, 10:43:15 AM »
I thought that PB was a steel bodied chuck.  :noidea:

I also have a TOS 4 jaw sc on order.

:LittleDevil: I knew you would realise you needed one in the end.

Her original is doing a very nice job on my BCA table  :ThumbsUp:

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Re: New Chucks
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2016, 04:29:50 PM »

....... (but I will cheat and take it into work to cut some slices  ::) )






Hi Roger, highly recommended.

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Achim

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Re: New Chucks
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2016, 09:12:30 PM »
I never occurred to me that you can put the chuck on the lathe "in reverse" as you did  :ThumbsUp:

Enjoy your new "toys"  :cheers:

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Re: New Chucks
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2016, 08:58:15 PM »
 
Hi Roger,

                 A Job well done, I fitted the same chuck to my Myford ML10. The TOS  is still going strong after many years.
                                       
                                                                    Cheers David
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Re: New Chucks
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2017, 08:44:38 PM »
Unfortunately this project has been a little delayed as Parcel Force has lost the package with the TOS 4 jaw SC chuck and the M14x1 taps  :(   :wallbang:

I had a couple of slices of the CI bar cut at work and am roughing them out.
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Re: New Chucks
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2017, 12:12:31 AM »
 :headscratch: The Register on the back of the TOS chuck and the mounting holes are a dead fit for the Hobbymat spindle.

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Re: New Chucks
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2017, 07:28:52 AM »
These backplates are to fit to my RT which has an M14x1 adaptor, the thick one for the 'Hobbymat' chucks and the thin one for the front fastening Pratt Burnard.
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Re: New Chucks
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2017, 01:03:23 PM »
The replacement chuck and taps finally arrived (Thank you Rotagrip  :) ) So I could continue with the backplates.

The bore was drilled 6mm then 12mm and bored out to 13mm. There is a 4mm deep 14mm counterbore to match the RT adaptor. I decided to start the thread with a singlepoint tool and just use the taps for finishing. On the first screwcutting pass there was a crack and the tool flipped over, maybe 0.2mm was too deep  :headscratch:  The point on the tool had chipped off so I roughly reground it by hand and had another go, this time with a cut of 0.1mm. This worked so I cut to a depth of 0.3 mm and then finished of with the taps.

I went to repeat this for the second backplate but during drilling 12mm the drill snatched violently and went off center. I withdrew the drill and there was a large blowhole  :(  :(  I will need to get another slice cut and start again.

I then put one of the MT2 -M14x1 adaptors in the lathe and finished the chuck face. Just 4 M8 threads to do.
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Re: New Chucks
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2017, 01:05:06 PM »
I had another CI blank cut at work and started again  ::) This had a small blowhole but luckily I could turn it away  :)

As I had a suitable chuck on the lathe I parted the boss off the original blank to see if it could be salvaged as a flywheel. Maybe if I can fit a large boss it will be usable, but this will have to be bolted as I don't think that shrink/press fitting will be sensible with CI  :headscratch:

As a trial I mounted the backplate on the RT adaptor to drill the three 6mm fixing holes.
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Re: New Chucks
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2017, 02:36:20 PM »
:headscratch: Roger why are you not mounting that 4 jaw TOS chuck directly on the hobbymat register.

or are you only checking the fit of the chuck for when it goes on the rotary table  :noidea:

Jo

P.S. Not impressed with the quality of that Swiss CI, it seems to be pretending it is a piece of cheese  ::)
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Re: New Chucks
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2017, 03:20:13 PM »
Yes it was just a trial fit as I had not Loctited the studs into that chuck yet.

It's actually Luxembourg (RC) cast iron. It's the first bad bit I have had from them.

When I said at the beginning that the PB chuck was a bit light I wasn't concerned about breaking it but the TOS one is slightly larger diameter and has deeper and wider jaws which makes a difference when you stretch (overload) machines as I tend to  ::)
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