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Re: Chris' Build of a Lombard Hauler Engine
« Reply #1470 on: May 20, 2017, 11:39:43 PM »
I finally had time to watch the video.  Just awsome Chris. 


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Re: Chris' Build of a Lombard Hauler Engine
« Reply #1471 on: May 21, 2017, 12:24:25 AM »
Sounds like you are having a blast Chris. Will look forward to seeing more pictures and videos whenever you can post them. Things like this trip can really get your batteries charged on a project like yours, especially getting to be in the cab and tending the steering too!! Safe travels home.

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« Reply #1472 on: May 21, 2017, 12:46:46 AM »
Sounds like you are having a blast Chris. Will look forward to seeing more pictures and videos whenever you can post them. Things like this trip can really get your batteries charged on a project like yours, especially getting to be in the cab and tending the steering too!! Safe travels home.

Bill
Thanks Bill and Bob!


I also got a chance yesterday to go see Ron Ginger, who lives down the coast. It was partly seeing his video of the time he was out on a Lombard that got this whole project started last year! Toured his shop, yakked quite a while, and got a terrific boat tour of the local coast!

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Re: Chris' Build of a Lombard Hauler Engine
« Reply #1473 on: May 21, 2017, 11:32:20 AM »
Herb Crosby got this video posted of the day, nice summary. I will get mine up tomorrow...


<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qUXQVudr4o" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qUXQVudr4o</a>


And his photo album...
https://goo.gl/photos/51UdVQE7L5TvDJAo7

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« Reply #1474 on: May 21, 2017, 11:58:57 AM »
Excellent video. Looks like way too much fun was had.

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« Reply #1475 on: May 21, 2017, 12:59:42 PM »
Hi Chris,
 Looks like a fun day out!!

Now I know were I want to go when R tells me she's booked a visit to the North East Coast!

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« Reply #1476 on: May 21, 2017, 02:57:41 PM »
That was a very cool video. And that's you driving there part of the time, isn't it Chris?  That must have been a great experience!
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« Reply #1477 on: May 21, 2017, 03:37:35 PM »
Great video Chris. I'll be looking forward to seeing yours as well.

When you went screaming by, while steering, it looked like you had your "race face" on!   :lolb:

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« Reply #1478 on: May 21, 2017, 09:47:02 PM »
Chris--What a great, great video!! I will have a big smile on my face for the rest of the day after watching that. Thank you.---Brian

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Re: Chris' Build of a Lombard Hauler Engine
« Reply #1479 on: May 21, 2017, 11:14:49 PM »
Wonderful stuff Chris. Now looking forward to yours as well. What a fantastic engine!!

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« Reply #1480 on: May 22, 2017, 12:00:47 AM »
Thanks all - it was a fantastic experience! Yup - I got to drive a lap around the museum, it is quite a bit of work with the geared down steering, several turns to make minor corrections, and every time you hit a bump it tries to throw you around the wheel! Great fun!
Just got home, will get pics up tomorrow...

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Re: Chris' Build of a Lombard Hauler Engine
« Reply #1481 on: May 22, 2017, 02:49:33 PM »
(Tongue in Cheek OT)

How would it do in a tractor pull?

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« Reply #1482 on: May 22, 2017, 03:19:32 PM »
(Tongue in Cheek OT)

How would it do in a tractor pull?

--ShopShoe

It would not break speed records in a tractor pull, but it can pull a heck of a lot of weight, amazing amount of low speed torque.

They did pull it forward with a small gas tractor they have, but the Lombard was freewheeling.

I did hear about a pull-off between a Lombard and a Shay, Lombard did great till the Shay engineer dropped sand under the wheels for traction - the train was much heavier, once it got traction it would win!

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Re: Chris' Build of a Lombard Hauler Engine
« Reply #1483 on: May 22, 2017, 06:42:25 PM »
All right - time for some trip pictures! Got some good ones picked out, and some videos uploaded.
I got there Tuesday morning and spent the day taking pictures and measurements of every little detail that I could see, then more every time I turned around and spotted something else, like the original cylinders sitting off under a bench (they were cracked, new ones were cast and machined).

On the inside, here is the steam passage slot - which we usually do on the models as a shallow depression and a drilled hole:

Here is the original boiler, made from steel plate and with a rivetted single-lapped seam. That won't meet code anymore (the later boilers were a butted-seam with a plate on either side), so a new welded boiler was made, but they added the rivet lines to match the look of this one.

It was great to have the boiler separate for measurements.
Other little details like the oil-can rack inside the cab, next to the boiler backhead:

And I did not know that the EPA stickers for fuel economy went this far back! The museum does have a sense of humor!

Here is the other Lombard they have on display, this one is owned by the Crooker family, it is on loan to the museum, they only run it on air occasionally to keep it freed up, it has the original boiler in it, and the little shack over the steering position that most owners added to keep the steersman from turning into a popsicle on really cold winter days.

Another relic, me, by the machine as it was steaming up. It took a few hours to get up to temperature and pressure, they fired it on wood - they can use either wood or coal.

I got some good portatrait shots of the hauler during the day...





As well as chances to ride along in the cab and also take a lap steering!   :whoohoo:

Its quite a workout to steer one of these, you can see the gear reduction from the wheel down to the axle, its about a 15:1 reduction, so even small corrections take a full turn or two!



Now, if you want your own full grown Lombard Hauler, they are not hard to track through the woods!

Also, off at the side of the barn is this nice big old lathe, but it would not fit in my car...

Under it are a whole bunch of gears, could these be threading gear sets for the lathe??

They also have a full belt-driven machine shop (just for display, they didn't make any of the replacement parts here) over on the side of the barn, it reminded me of John's wonderful dioramas.

Had to get a close up of the front name plate:

On Thursday I took a tour of the Owls Head and Seals Cove Transportation museums, both have lots of early cars, including Stanley Steamers. The Owls Head museum has a big Corliss compound engine that they run on compressed air, plus some other engines that would be great projects for some of you IC engine masters, like this 28 cylinder engine (this one is a cutaway model, full size).

And also this beautiful American LaFrance fire engine - this one was converted to be a gas-powered engine during its life.

Back in the restoration hanger they were recovering the wings of this bizarre glider, which some lunatic inventor built with a gaff rigged SAIL on top! As you might guess, first puff of breeze and it flipped over and crashed. Then he rebuilt it with changes, same thing happened. Did he learn? Nope. Did it all a third time! They are restoring it for display now. One of the few planes and cars there that are not aken out and run periodically... Another early failed plane was one that had 4 big panels like flapping wings. They are covered in layers of feathers! Nope, that didnt fly either...!

All in all a wonderful trip, still need to sort through the rest of the photos that I took for the model/plans, and get the boiler and cab 3-D modelled up. REALLY glad for digital cameras, it would have cost a fortune in film and processing!!

Now for some videos:
Started the day with a blast on the whistle:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOSKZweWMEI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOSKZweWMEI</a>

and a chance to steer:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jolDuFfVg4k" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jolDuFfVg4k</a>

Close view of how the tracks work, you can see how the inner roller chains act like bearing races. One thing that some remarked on was the speed of the tracks on my early test runs of the models, which was high until I got the sticky spots evened out. In these videos, the hauler is only going about 2mph, its normal speed when hauling a several hundred ton train of logs is 5mph on level ground, faster on a downhill. Even at this slow speed, the tracks are whizzing by at times. For these runs, with no load behind it, they had the throttle just cracked open a couple notches, there was LOTS more travel on it, but we could not get them to pull any wheelies...!
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5tJoK9prEk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5tJoK9prEk</a>

And some more videos of it coming and going:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHtd8GFENAk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHtd8GFENAk</a>

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crkTxXdbAfo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crkTxXdbAfo</a>

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtDXb9rjDV8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtDXb9rjDV8</a>

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuSd_6We16U" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuSd_6We16U</a>

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Re: Chris' Build of a Lombard Hauler Engine
« Reply #1484 on: May 22, 2017, 07:03:38 PM »
These are all great Chris!  I guess postcards are not what they used to be in this digital age, but some of those pictures are what I call picture postcard worthy. Great stuff, thanks for sharing !!

Bill

 

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