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Offline Jasonb

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Something a bit different
« on: September 01, 2016, 02:20:34 PM »
I came across this today, nice to see something that is not usuall modeled. He also has a lot of other logging related models in his other videos such as donkeys, logging locos and log boats.


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Re: Something a bit different
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2016, 03:10:27 PM »
Nice find Jason. Very different for sure but seems to be an excellent runner.

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Re: Something a bit different
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2016, 03:37:58 PM »
Now thats one I had never heard of - very interesting! According to wikipedia, its the first successful use of a continuous track vehicle in 1901. Also found this video of one in a New Hampshire museum:


Edit: And also found online plans at this museum site. Not detailed plan of the engines, but they look like standard double acting type.
http://www.maineforestandloggingmuseum.org/lombard-blueprints
and lots more details here
http://www.maineforestandloggingmuseum.org/lombard-log-hauler-resources
« Last Edit: September 01, 2016, 03:43:53 PM by crueby »

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Re: Something a bit different
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2016, 04:41:03 PM »
That is definitely different but very interesting also. Could be a future project for you Chris  :LittleDevil:

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Re: Something a bit different
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2016, 05:17:34 PM »
These machines were also made in Wisconson under license. The Wisconson version was known as the Phoenix log hauler.

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Re: Something a bit different
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2016, 07:20:44 PM »
My friend Marvin Hedberg made a 1/2 size Phoenix a few years back.

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Re: Something a bit different
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2016, 07:36:52 PM »
Very nice!! I grew up around "old time" logging, but I never seen one of those. It seemed that most Ontario loggers went right from horses to John Deere skidders.

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Re: Something a bit different
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2016, 07:38:26 PM »
What amazing models!!!  Having not seen these before I find the fascinating...think I would much prefer being the "engineer" though than the steering guy up front :)

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Re: Something a bit different
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2016, 09:37:58 PM »
think I would much prefer being the "engineer" though than the steering guy up front

Our roads would be a lot safer if automobiles were designed that way with the driver sitting unprotected on the front fender.  Might relieve the texting-while-driving impulse.
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Re: Something a bit different
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2016, 09:48:11 PM »
That is definitely different but very interesting also. Could be a future project for you Chris  :LittleDevil:

Bill

Way ahead of you! I was starting to look through the pics in more detail when the cable guy showed up next door and disconnected everything to replace the box!
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I happen to have a second boiler that I made when I did the Gauge 1 loco a while back, had planned to make it into either a larger train or into some sort of truck someday. This would be perfect for it - make an RC version to driver around the yard! I have been looking for something unusual, not the same traction engine or whatever. They sold the rights to another company who made the Pheonix version, that has a pair of vertical twins, one on either side, like a double sided Shay - that would be REALLY fun!   

 :thinking:

Looks like it could be my next long-term project, have to download the plans and books and start drafting up a set of plans! The tracks will be interesting, have to make up some jigs to mass produce them - could always buy them from one of the rc-tank suppliers, but that would be no fun.

May have to see about getting to one of those museums next summer - always looking for a good excuse to go to Maine anyway!   ::)

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Re: Something a bit different
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2016, 12:10:37 AM »
Yep, I just knew that one would tickle your fancy Chris :)

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Re: Something a bit different
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2016, 01:36:03 AM »
Yep, I just knew that one would tickle your fancy Chris :)

Bill

Oh yes! It just needs a trailer full of chocolate chip cookies...

Lots more research to do, hope to pull together some plans for a model. Looks like those sites have a ton of info.

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Re: Something a bit different
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2016, 07:49:19 AM »
There are quite a few other videos of the model during construction so you can get an idea of how it went together.

If you like that sort of layout but would prefer wheels to tracks there is always something like the Avery traction engine

http://prestonservices.co.uk/item/avery-4322/

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Re: Something a bit different
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2016, 03:13:37 PM »
There are quite a few other videos of the model during construction so you can get an idea of how it went together.

If you like that sort of layout but would prefer wheels to tracks there is always something like the Avery traction engine

http://prestonservices.co.uk/item/avery-4322/
Thats quite an interesting design too. I like the track setup, could always fall back to wheels if the tracks don't work out.

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Re: Something a bit different
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2016, 05:37:54 PM »
I have done some time driving one of these, at the Owls Head transportation museum.


It is a real beast to steer on dry ground. The steering wheel shaft is vertical to a small gear that drives a large gear on the axle. We had a whistle cord that both the engineer and driver could pull, so we had signals between us.

I have always wanted to model one of these, but then there are a dozen things I want to model. I do have a drawing, and we found a nice parts manual on the web that shows all the parts.

Lombard invented the track idea. It was stolen by what became Caterpillar, and they lost some legal case, but never paid Lombard.

He did switch to gas engines for these, and there is one preserved in the Maine State museum in Augusta. It has a monster 6 cylinder gas engine, on essentially the same frame at the steam hauler.