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Re: 917 180 degree V 12
« Reply #270 on: July 15, 2019, 02:50:28 PM »
I do know that.......but my model will not have that
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Re: 917 180 degree V 12
« Reply #271 on: July 15, 2019, 03:24:39 PM »
Did you notice the two cutouts in each of the crank webs which provide access to the big end journals? This suggests the titanium crankshaft was made as a bolted assembly, probably with Hirth couplings and big end sleeves over the joint.

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Re: 917 180 degree V 12
« Reply #272 on: July 15, 2019, 05:44:06 PM »
Ive not seen a crank f uo ll size that was built that way but your comments seem sound
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Re: 917 180 degree V 12
« Reply #273 on: July 15, 2019, 06:00:09 PM »
Hi Dave,

Go back to posts 138 and 139 and you can clearly see the difference between the one piece steel crankshaft and the eight ??? piece bolted titanium crankshaft. I believe the steel crank was for the Le Mans cars and the titanium crankshaft was developed specially for the overpowered CanAm monsters. Porsche aren't telling.

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Re: 917 180 degree V 12
« Reply #274 on: July 15, 2019, 08:54:26 PM »
You are correct sir!
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Re: 917 180 degree V 12
« Reply #275 on: August 27, 2019, 03:28:58 AM »
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Re: 917 180 degree V 12
« Reply #276 on: August 27, 2019, 12:07:06 PM »
What an incredible engine, it sounds perfect.

Not been able to find any more information about Bouland Motors. They appear to be offering the Cosworth for sale but don't give a price or delivery forecast.

If you need to ask the price..... you cannot afford one.

I hope JonC sees this Cosworth engine, it will encourage him with his build of the same engine

Mike.
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Re: 917 180 degree V 12
« Reply #277 on: August 27, 2019, 01:57:28 PM »
Very nice indeed  8)  8)  8) I am trying to work out from the Cyclon 2V accumulator if it is a glowplug engine  :thinking:
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Re: 917 180 degree V 12
« Reply #278 on: August 27, 2019, 02:19:43 PM »
You could be right about glow plugs.

The Cosworth DFV distributor is horizontal and located in the bottom of the 'V' at the rear, just above the clutch It was driven from the pulleys at the front of the engine

There is no obvious sign of a distributor in that location on the model

Mike
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Re: 917 180 degree V 12
« Reply #279 on: August 27, 2019, 05:05:23 PM »
Sliding plate induction.....so at first I was wondering about fuel injection, but I don't see a injection pump, and it appears that the fuel barbs are dummies.....but the induction is what got my attention...for the 917 project

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Re: 917 180 degree V 12
« Reply #280 on: August 27, 2019, 05:48:05 PM »
Yes, those throttle slides and the Lucas injection trumpets are very prominent on both the Cosworth and the Porsche engines. Thay are also big enough to let you hide conventional model carburetors underneath without them being too noticeable. Full fuel injection and dual spark ignition would be nice but glow plugs and simple carbs delivering methanol are  so much more practical.

Keep it simple.............

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Re: 917 180 degree V 12
« Reply #281 on: December 24, 2019, 10:56:23 AM »
Hi All,

Just a heads up, over on the PM forum their is a guy (Alfagta) who currently has some parts of this engine, possibly the whole engine he is working on. I have always found him to be very helpful. He may be able to help with specific pictures or measurements.

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Re: 917 180 degree V 12
« Reply #282 on: December 24, 2019, 12:34:06 PM »
Hey Floating!

Thanks for the heads up!.....

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Re: 917 180 degree V 12
« Reply #283 on: December 24, 2019, 01:30:55 PM »
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Re: 917 180 degree V 12
« Reply #284 on: July 31, 2020, 11:05:05 PM »
As I'm limited on the expenditures at the moment....design work continues....
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the 917 is progressing.....I've got the gear train nailed down, and the multipiece crank.   I'm considering 12L14 cylinders.....but I'm not convinced yet   split connecting rods with bronze bush running on hardened bushings with ball bearing mains.   I've sorted out the cam lubrication, and I'll have some jets on the con rod big ends which should provide more than enough splash for the pistons and cylinders/ wrist pins. 

Just pretty pictures for now till I'm working again....

Fusion 360...

Dave
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