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Re: Midlands Model Engineering Show
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2015, 08:18:55 AM »
Got to meet Jo and some of her colleagues but didn't notice any cakes.

Missed one  :facepalm:. Sorry Mike because of the big sign that said thou shall not eat food that wasn't brought at the kiosks we had them hidden in my bag.

A few pictures. First off a pair of Hanning ploughing engines a Hanning BB and a Hanning BB1.

And a must have bedroom window sill ornament  :naughty:

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Re: Midlands Model Engineering Show
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2015, 08:22:24 AM »
I took the opportunity to get a couple of photos of the Otto 1895 engine on LA services stand. I think it is suffering from having to travel between shows.

And some of their other engines.

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Re: Midlands Model Engineering Show
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2015, 08:32:27 AM »
There was a very interesting variation on the Kiwi mk I /Kittiwake sitting in a Hydroplane  :Love: You can clearly see that the owner has been tweaking it to try to get more power out of the engine  8)

And there were some other nice boat engines.

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Re: Midlands Model Engineering Show
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2015, 09:54:23 AM »
Jo
I think you are a tad harsh on John Hainngs Fowler Plough designs, there is a difference between an exact scale model of any engine, and one that makes compromises to facilitate the practicality of use or ease of construction.
Because a designer takes a more practice view in the drawings takes nothing away from a very fine finished model that any model engineer would be rightly proud of.
It might be wise to remember 20 or 30 years ago we relied on published designs to make our models, as there were no computers with programs were you can turn an engine inside out and look up its rear end, as is the case now.
We look forward to the day when you finish your version of the Fowler, but beware the rivet counters?
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Re: Midlands Model Engineering Show
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2015, 10:34:46 AM »
Jo
I think you are a tad harsh on John Hainngs Fowler Plough designs, there is a difference between an exact scale model of any engine, and one that makes compromises to facilitate the practicality of use or ease of construction.

The Hanning BB design is 50 years old and I understand Colin Tyler's son was having the engines redrawn because it was not a "beginners engine". I don't know how far he got with it.

Don't worry I am rivet counting all of the features on my engine: Mine will be a model of a Fowler BB1 and is based on my own (initially hand drawn drawings) scaled from a full sized engine and the works drawings.
 
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Re: Midlands Model Engineering Show
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2015, 11:35:03 AM »
Jo

I fully understand your comments about the Haining designs, and pretty much all of his drawings had faults or compromises in some way. And for those reasons I personally would not want to build one either.

I am a design engineer by profession, and it really p's me off when someone casually looks at a finished job and comes out with a comment like "Oh I wouldn't have done it like that", but that fact is they wouldn't have been able to do it at all , and just take delight in passing criticism.

That said, just go back and have another look at those model ploughing engines and tell me what a lovely job the builder has made of them, even though you wouldn't have done it quite like that.

I have only seen the photo's, but surely they deserve some complements on the build quality and finish, dont forget that unless like yourself you are very familiar with the finer details of the original, most people will see a very nice model ploughing engine.

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Re: Midlands Model Engineering Show
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2015, 08:39:51 PM »
I have only seen the photo's, but surely they deserve some complements on the build quality and finish, dont forget that unless like yourself you are very familiar with the finer details of the original, most people will see a very nice model ploughing engine.

The fact that I posted them first of all the photos I took indicates my appreciation of the skills of the model maker. 

But no single model can stand above another: All of the items displayed have been constructed with love and the attention that their builders were capable of, and each shows that their builders are not only proud of their finished model but willing to let their models be displayed at the show to inspire others.

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Re: Midlands Model Engineering Show
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2015, 09:02:23 PM »
I think that back in the day it took a ploughing engine to drag a 12 bottom plough. I don't think that an early American tractor could have done it. Lovely models with a ton of work each. Thanks for the pictures, Jo.

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Re: Midlands Model Engineering Show
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2015, 06:29:57 AM »
I'll add pictures of engines that I took at the show....
Bentley BR2

Bentley BR2
by Andy, on Flickr

Bremen Hot Air Engine

Bremen Hot Air Engine (2)
by Andy, on Flickr

Bremen Hot Air Engine
by Andy, on Flickr

Economy Gas Engine

Economy Gas Engine
by Andy, on Flickr

Freelance V Twin Hot Air Engine

Freelance V Twin Hot Air Engine – Papilio
by Andy, on Flickr

Galloway Non Dead Centre Engines

Galloway Non Dead Centre Beam Engine
by Andy, on Flickr

Galloway Non Dead Centre Beam Engine (1)
by Andy, on Flickr

Georginas

Georgina
by Andy, on Flickr


Georgina
by Andy, on Flickr

Junior

Junior
by Andy, on Flickr

Monarch

Monarch Vertical Steam Engine
by Andy, on Flickr

Fowler Ploughing Engines

Pair of Fowler ploughing engines with 6 furrow balance plough (1)
by Andy, on Flickr

Pair of Fowler ploughing engines with 6 furrow balance plough (2)
by Andy, on Flickr

Pair of Fowler ploughing engines with 6 furrow balance plough (3)
by Andy, on Flickr

Pair of Fowler ploughing engines with 6 furrow balance plough (7)
by Andy, on Flickr

Pair of Fowler ploughing engines with 6 furrow balance plough (9)
by Andy, on Flickr

Pioneer

Pioneer
by Andy, on Flickr

Redwing driving a saw

Redwing
by Andy, on Flickr

Alyn Foundry RLE

Alyn Foundry RLE Stationary Engine
by Andy, on Flickr

Alyn Foundry RLE Stationary Engine
by Andy, on Flickr

Alyn Foundry RLE Stationary Engine.
by Andy, on Flickr

Robinson Hot Air Engine

Robinson Hot Air Engine
by Andy, on Flickr

Rootes Diesel Engine

Rootes Diesel Engine TS3 under construction
by Andy, on Flickr

Rootes Diesel Engine TS3 under construction
by Andy, on Flickr

Andy

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Re: Midlands Model Engineering Show
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2015, 06:45:30 AM »
The final batch of my photos.

Stuart 10H

Stuart 10H
by Andy, on Flickr

Stuart 10V

Stuart 10V
by Andy, on Flickr

Stuart D10

Stuart D10
by Andy, on Flickr

Stuart No 9

Stuart Number 9
by Andy, on Flickr

Stuart Sirius

Stuart Turner Sirius
by Andy, on Flickr

Stuart Turner Sirius
by Andy, on Flickr

Stuart Swan

Stuart Turner Swan
by Andy, on Flickr

Tempus Fugit

Tempus Fugit Hot Air Engine
by Andy, on Flickr

Rider Ericsson Hot Air Engine

Three inch scale Rider Ericsson Hot Air Pumping Engine
by Andy, on Flickr

Three inch scale Rider Ericsson Hot Air Pumping Engine
by Andy, on Flickr

Twin Compound Condensing Steam Engine

Twin Compound Condensing Steam Engine
by Andy, on Flickr

Twin Compound Condensing Steam Engine
by Andy, on Flickr

Twin Compound Condensing Steam Engine
by Andy, on Flickr

Twin Compound Condensing Steam Engine
by Andy, on Flickr

Twin Compound Condensing Steam Engine
by Andy, on Flickr

Twin Cylinder Vertical Steam Engine

Twin Cylinder Vertical Steam Engine. Builder unknown.
by Andy, on Flickr

Vertical Boiler

Vertical Boiler
by Andy, on Flickr

Vertical Boiler
by Andy, on Flickr

Andy

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Re: Midlands Model Engineering Show
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2015, 07:06:38 AM »
Hi everybody, thanks for sharing all these pictures. Some very well done models.
Kind Regards
Achim

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Re: Midlands Model Engineering Show
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2015, 07:45:09 AM »
Thanks Andy, good mix of models there, I like that compound twin marine engine.

J

PS thanks for yours too Jo

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Re: Midlands Model Engineering Show
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2015, 08:11:16 AM »
Hi Jason, my main interest is the stationary engines but there were many fine railway locos and traction engines at the show.
It was stated that the Twin Compound Condensing Steam Engine castings were by 'Historic & Model Reproductions'. I wanted to find out more about the model however, I can't find the castings or further information on the Internet.

Andy

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Re: Midlands Model Engineering Show
« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2015, 08:46:47 AM »
It looks like the engine published in 1923 in ME.

Here you go: http://www.modelenginemaker.com/index.php?topic=3650.0

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Re: Midlands Model Engineering Show
« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2015, 10:09:46 AM »
Yes both from the same castings and as Jo says based on the 1923ME series, though I quite fancy doing the 1924 design which could probably be done without castings

 

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