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thanks Crueby, I heated it up and just pushed it down on the fire brick and squished it in the vice and it came strait again. However when i returned it to the piece of steel to hold it firmly for marking out it seems to have shrunk a bit..........Also the brass has a matt finish that will make it easier to photograph. also when brass is annealed it is softer so is it easier to cut until it work hardens again saving energy ??!!