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Another gear-less cam mechanism
« on: November 20, 2014, 07:56:36 PM »
Following on from Myrickmans discovery of the Wright gear-less cam mechanism, this is another similar mechanism I saw in Hiscox's  "Mechanical Movements, Devices and Appliances" (pub. 1899)

Here, as the worm turns the follower wheel it only operates the valve every turn.


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Re: Another gear-less cam mechanism
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2014, 05:53:08 AM »
Hi Bill, very interesting. Not so easy to manufacture. Presumably some wear but I am sure it will work in a model IC engine.
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Re: Another gear-less cam mechanism
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2014, 12:31:30 PM »
I'd struggle to see that as "gear-less" for two reasons:

1. It's essentially a combined cam and worm gear, so it's really just an alternative form of reduction gear.

2. To implement it you'd need either a belt or gear drive from the crankshaft to the worm/cam shaft since the camshaft has to be above the valves and it's mechanically problematic to put the crankshaft above the valve stems! You could possibly do it with a side-valve layout, but it's really too bulky to fit there.

Given that it will almost certainly need a gear/belt drive there seems to be little benefit in NOT putting the required 2:1 reduction ratio in the gear/belt system!

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Re: Another gear-less cam mechanism
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2014, 12:32:59 PM »
Actually I suppose you *could* incorporate this mechanism into the cam followers (rather than the valve stems) of an OHV layout, but I'd still regard it as a reduction gear.

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Re: Another gear-less cam mechanism
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2014, 12:53:28 PM »
Bill,
That is a very nice animation, did you make it yourself?

I also think it makes an engine more complicated to make than a reduction gear, but it is very inventive!

Wout

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Re: Another gear-less cam mechanism
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2014, 01:40:10 PM »
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I'd struggle to see that as "gear-less" ...
Oh it is not gear less at all really, I just used that expression to link it to the Wright Bros Idea ;-)
 (I should have put gear-less in quotes perhaps)

There are many silly idea that catch my imagination - I like to try to animate them when I can :)

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That is a very nice animation, did you make it yourself?


Yes, I've done a few over the years ;-) 

(http://wktodd.webspace.virginmedia.com/animations/  & http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/POWER/rotaryengines/rotaryeng.htm)
« Last Edit: November 21, 2014, 01:46:06 PM by BillTodd »

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Re: Another gear-less cam mechanism
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2014, 04:33:25 PM »
Very nice animations, Bill! I know I've run across them before seeing your links.  :ThumbsUp:

Can you say a little about the tools you use to create them?

Simon

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Re: Another gear-less cam mechanism
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2014, 11:38:17 AM »
Very nice animations, Bill! I know I've run across them before seeing your links.  :ThumbsUp:

Can you say a little about the tools you use to create them?

Simon
I use a combination of a 3d modeller and a photo manipulator/ gif editor.

it's really just a typical stop frame process: moving parts to where they should be for each frame . the modeller does some tweening, but is often more of a hindrance than a help.

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Re: Another gear-less cam mechanism
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2014, 06:54:54 PM »
The reflection on the metal, is that a result from using 3d modeller? Or do you do that in the photo editor?

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Re: Another gear-less cam mechanism
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2014, 08:14:42 PM »
The reflection on the metal, is that a result from using 3d modeller? Or do you do that in the photo editor?

I believe, the simple raytracing is done by the openGL graphics card hardware, because that file is produced from the screen output, although the software does have the option of a full software rendered o/p.

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Re: Another gear-less cam mechanism
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2014, 01:22:07 AM »
Those are some really nice graphics Bill. If a picture is worth a thousand words, those should be worth ten thousand with the animation :)

Bill

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Re: Another gear-less cam mechanism
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2014, 01:33:45 PM »
Another one from the same book.

There's no indication in the patent of how the author was going to constrain the push rod while it slide side to side :)

ISTR Chuck(?) had built a model with a similar eccentric face cam ????

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Re: Another gear-less cam mechanism
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2014, 04:22:15 PM »
That is very similar to what is used on the Pacific engine and it's relatives (Union, Regan, Globe, etc.). The difference is there is a shoe that runs in the track, the shoe is on a swing arm that moves the valve lifter over the cam on one revolution and away on the next.

Dave

 

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