Author Topic: Drip oiler (Read 12343 times)

Doc · « **on:** March 23, 2014, 11:32:06 PM »

I decided to work on getting some drip oilers made up. I need 2 so I'm going to make up 4, 2 extra I'm sure I'll find a place for them eventually

I cut 1" od glass tube .800 lengths
then turned up the tops and bottoms.

b.lindsey · « **Reply #1 on:** March 23, 2014, 11:49:43 PM »

That'a a good sized oiler Doc. What are you fitting the 2 on?

Bill

Doc · « **Reply #2 on:** March 24, 2014, 12:01:58 AM »

The 2 that will be used will go on my Odds And Ends hit miss to get rid of the oil cup and the same on my Six Cycle hit miss. Never did like the oil cup and I made one of these for my Atkinson and am very happy with the way it looks and preforms. I had been wanting to do this for awhile so I finally said do it now.
I just wish I would have gotten a thinner walled glass tube the stuff I have is a bugger to cut and flame polish.

Doc · « **Reply #3 on:** March 25, 2014, 12:03:29 AM »

Didn't get a lot of time in the shop today had about an hour so I started the spindles.

zeeprogrammer · « **Reply #4 on:** March 25, 2014, 12:36:45 AM »

Scale! Scale! Something for scale!

They looked real tiny at first and then I read the 1st post...1" diameter.
Still, I can't visualize that in my mind.

I like those kind of oilers. They really add a nice touch.

Doc · « **Reply #5 on:** March 25, 2014, 01:06:42 AM »

Oops

I usually try and put something in the pic to shoe size. I designed these around a 1 inch od glass tube. There isn't much to them and are fairly easy to make the hardest part I find in making them is cutting the glass tube and getting them flame polished. I maybe wasting my time flame polishing them as they are not subjected to wide temp ranges. In my boilers I like to keep the edges of glass flame polished to make them less likely to break in use.
I'll try and do a better job with the scale reference

In case you are interested in them I attached the drawing.

zeeprogrammer · « **Reply #6 on:** March 25, 2014, 01:17:28 AM »

Quote from: Doc on March 25, 2014, 01:06:42 AM

There isn't much to them and are fairly easy to make

Well perhaps. But not for me yet and not for any newbie. From our point of view there's a lot to making an oiler.

We forget what we didn't know.

Doc · « **Reply #7 on:** March 25, 2014, 11:46:28 PM »

Carl I meant nothing by saying fairly easy

I just meant there are not to many parts to make one.
Sorry I some times don't come across the way I should and may I say I am amazed at the talent on the board!
With that said I didn't do much again only thing I made was the knurled nuts. My shop helper showed up

b.lindsey · « **Reply #8 on:** March 25, 2014, 11:51:21 PM »

I was wondering where the "Noid" had been hiding

Bill

zeeprogrammer · « **Reply #9 on:** March 26, 2014, 12:01:06 AM »

Quote from: Doc on March 25, 2014, 11:46:28 PM

Carl I meant nothing by saying fairly easy

Wasn't you. It was me. What I said didn't come out right. Allow me to

What Bill said...I was wondering about the 'Noid' too. Good to see him.

Doc · « **Reply #10 on:** March 28, 2014, 12:19:58 AM »

Well I got out in the shop for about another hour this evening. Between so much going on and feeling like a cold coming on just don't feel up to much. Did get the adjustment screw turned up next will be the adjustment rod.

zeeprogrammer · « **Reply #11 on:** March 28, 2014, 12:40:42 AM »

Quote from: Doc on March 28, 2014, 12:19:58 AM

Between so much going on and feeling like a cold coming on just don't feel up to much.

Doc. Right? Doc. You go by 'Doc'. Don't be telling me about a cold.

Hope you get over it soon. Or rather...that it doesn't grow.

I have to say...that last pic with Noid holding the oiler. That was great. What an expression. Really put a smile on my face.

Don1966 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 28, 2014, 01:21:07 AM »

Doc that is some nice lubicators and thanks for the drawing.

Don

Doc · « **Reply #13 on:** March 29, 2014, 12:55:06 AM »

Thanks Don,

Well went out and started on the flow control rods and points.
Turned up points and soldered to 1/8 rods then it happened turned my back for a second and the dammed Noid dropped one of the oilers on the floor and cracked the glass.

Oh ok I may have laid it on the surface plate and it rolled off when I wasn't lookin. ( I still think the Noid pushed it off the table

)

Just goes to show you if you aren't feeling up to par stay out of the shop.

b.lindsey · « **Reply #14 on:** March 29, 2014, 12:59:38 AM »

Sorry about the mishap Doc. That little Noid look a might guilty to me

Bill

Don1966 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 29, 2014, 01:14:51 AM »

I think your right Doc, he looks guilty to me. Just a question, the spring did it come from and ink pen?

Don

Doc · « **Reply #16 on:** March 29, 2014, 01:22:57 AM »

Yep can from an old ink pen. I was at a garage sale a couple summers ago and they had a big tub of old pens for a buck I took them I wanted the springs they come in handy.

philjoe5 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 29, 2014, 03:46:55 PM »

Doc,
Nice project and one that many of us will get to some day. Thanks for the drawing. I'm thinking of making a few using plexiglass since they'll be going on air powered models.

Cheers,
Phil

zeeprogrammer · « **Reply #18 on:** March 29, 2014, 04:34:52 PM »

Quote from: philjoe5 on March 29, 2014, 03:46:55 PM

I'm thinking of making a few using plexiglass since they'll be going on air powered models.

Does it matter if it's for air or steam? I've never used an oiler. Do they get hot enough to be a problem for plastic?
Does the oil (or kind of oil) interact with the plexiglass (plastic)?

Thanks

Doc · « **Reply #19 on:** March 29, 2014, 05:03:08 PM »

I think polycarbonate may work but may not last. I wanted real glass don't ask me why because I don't have a real good answer other than for a 1 inch OD you would more than likely have a smaller ID and poly would start to deteriorate if subjected to temps over 200 and may even lower with oil in it .
I know they do offer commercial oilers made of plastic not sure of what kind of plastic.

philjoe5 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 29, 2014, 06:56:51 PM »

Quote

Does it matter if it's for air or steam?

For a drip oiler on a model, a failure from oil interacting with the plastic would be a mess and if the oil carried some of the residue into the cylinder

High temperatures just accelerate that kind of thing.

Looks like polycarbonate doesn't like gasoline or kerosene, so I won't be using it

http://www.palramhort.com/pdffiles/PC_Products_General_Info/PC_Chemical_Resistance.pdf

Cheers,
Phil

Doc · « **Reply #21 on:** March 30, 2014, 02:13:55 AM »

Well didn't get any shop time did get some thing done around the house today. It was a very nice day out there around 60F. I have about 50 more tree's coming to get planted this spring last year we planted 75 spruce trees and about 50 fruit trees. SO I'll be busy on the nice days with yard work. It is suppose to storm starting tomorrow afternoon. They say we are going to get heavy snow and high winds with near blizzard conditions. So I may get a few days in the shop again next week.

Doc · « **Reply #22 on:** March 31, 2014, 10:04:31 PM »

Well zero visibility outside right now made it out to the shop for awhile this afternoon. Cut a new glass for the cracked one. Turned up the rest of the adjustment points and soldered to the rods. Then started on adjustment handles.

2 more adjustment points.

Solder points to rods.

Adjustment assemblies minus handle.

1/4 square stock for handles.

Mill length note adjustable parallel to keep vise from closing and only clamping parts at one point of contact.

Set up to mill slot for the adjustment rods.

Doc · « **Reply #23 on:** April 01, 2014, 01:40:21 AM »

Got back out in the shop for little while again and continued on handles.

Cut a small chamfer on corners to be able to put into a 5c collet and turn taper of handle I set the compound to 4 degrees.

I then files a radius on end.

Handles have been turned and ready for cross hole.

Here is what it looks like compared to the first one I built.

b.lindsey · « **Reply #24 on:** April 01, 2014, 01:53:58 AM »

Well between you and Gail...old honest Abe is getting a workout

Wonderful work on such a small scale Doc!!

Bill

Doc · « **Reply #25 on:** April 04, 2014, 01:17:14 AM »

Thanks Bill

I got out in the shop today and drilled the pin holes in the adjustment rod and the leavers and assembled them.

Sorry I forgot to take pictures

so here is a pic of them together with my first. Now the adjustment friction keeper and a fill hole and cover left to do. Then I'll make a witness port mount for them.

Doc · « **Reply #26 on:** April 06, 2014, 01:34:33 AM »

Ok got the fill port covers done and the friction adjustment keepers done. Now I need to get the keepers formed and the fill ports mounted.

I milled the port covers on the end of a block of stock then parted them off wit a jewelers saw .05 wide.

The friction keeper I took the flat pattern and double back taped some brass stock to a block in the vise and milled them out.
The brass stock was from a score I made awhile back. A local saloon was putting on new doors to their establishment and the old doors were laying by the dumpster. I stopped and asked what are you going to do with the doors? They said toss them I could have the if I wanted. I said no I just would like the brass kick plates if they were going to toss them anyway. Haha they said sure they even lent me a screw driver to remove them so I ended up with 8 brass kick plates.
Anyway I'll have to form them and they drill the fill port holes and the fill port cover mount holes and then turn up some pins to put the covers in place.

zeeprogrammer · « **Reply #27 on:** April 06, 2014, 02:12:34 AM »

Quote from: Doc on April 06, 2014, 01:34:33 AM

I said no I just would like the brass kick plates if they were going to toss them anyway. Haha they said sure they even lent me a screw driver to remove them so I ended up with 8 brass kick plates.

Nice!

Don1966 · « **Reply #28 on:** April 06, 2014, 02:45:20 AM »

Doc that's some nice bud. ..........

Don

philjoe5 · « **Reply #29 on:** April 06, 2014, 03:43:49 AM »

Nice work on a useful addition to any model

Cheers,
Phil

Dave Otto · « **Reply #30 on:** April 06, 2014, 05:08:50 PM »

Nice looking oilers Doc.

Thanks for sharing.

Dave

Doc · « **Reply #31 on:** April 06, 2014, 06:59:14 PM »

Thanks for the comments guys.

Ok got the gaskets cut had to make a new gasket cuter I know I had them some where but could not find them.
Then I formed the friction keepers and assembled and went to the mill to drill 0-80 screw holes for the covers.
Then drilled oil fill port and assembled.
Ok one done 3 to go then for the mount tubes with a witness port.

Doc · « **Reply #32 on:** April 06, 2014, 11:57:57 PM »

Ok finished them up and assembled and filled with oil and set the flow.
Started on new mounts similar to the old one I made.

zeeprogrammer · « **Reply #33 on:** April 07, 2014, 12:12:54 AM »

Beauty.

It's those kinds of details that really set a model off.
Great thread.

rarach22 · « **Reply #34 on:** April 09, 2014, 07:35:51 AM »

Super

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Author Topic: Drip oiler (Read 12343 times)