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Re: Fowler BB1 in 2"
« Reply #75 on: December 31, 2013, 04:29:09 PM »
Those look good Jo to my un=experienced eye at least. Will look forward to seeing how the castings turn out !!

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Re: Fowler BB1 in 2"
« Reply #76 on: December 31, 2013, 04:35:29 PM »
Jo
I built a BB1around twenty years ago using Collin Tyler’s castings; he was a pal of John Hainning who designed the plough. It was a very enjoyable build; I used to make my own boilers in those days, before legislation went mad.
Fowler ploughs make a very distinctive noise when working and the twin exhaust beat and the clank of the gear train replicates in the model, pure joy!!
Keep up the good work
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Re: Fowler BB1 in 2"
« Reply #77 on: December 31, 2013, 04:38:29 PM »

And :o how did that happen, I have let a set of my engine castings out of the house :facepalm:

Jo

Well you did keep some of mine as hostage to ensure their safe return :Lol:

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Re: Fowler BB1 in 2"
« Reply #78 on: January 01, 2014, 08:33:01 AM »
Single pull from the back, interesting!   Loose patterns in a foundry is somewhat rare these days....glad you're on your way with them.

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Re: Fowler BB1 in 2"
« Reply #79 on: January 01, 2014, 12:32:35 PM »
Jo
It’s been a long time since I built my plough but I will try to help if I can. Reworking a proven design is fine as long as it works, draw it out first, using shaft centre’s as datum’s, even go as far as turning up blank discs at PCD’s to prove all is well. The gear brackets will require some serious pattern making!!
Do you know of the book Fowler Steam Cultivating Machinery 1900-1930 by G.F.A Gilbert. published by The Road Locomotive Society. It contains all original photographs and works drawings very useful as reference, unless you have the real thing to measure? I am sure you will have lots of fun
Mike

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Re: Fowler BB1 in 2"
« Reply #80 on: January 01, 2014, 02:35:29 PM »
Jo
You seem to be well on top of the job, I think it will be me asking you for advice!!
Did you find 3D CAD hard to learn? It certainly is a very useful tool.

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Re: Fowler BB1 in 2"
« Reply #81 on: January 17, 2014, 09:26:52 AM »
Hi Jo, I am watching this project with great interest!

BTW, a lot of the land in this part of New Zealand was first ploughed by traction engines but for some reason I dont understand they never used the cable and winch method instead just coupling up a few horse ploughs..

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Re: Fowler BB1 in 2"
« Reply #82 on: January 17, 2014, 10:00:25 AM »
 :thinking: those are very shallow, we pulled 14" deep furrows last time I used a Steam plough  ;D.

The patterns are being dropped off tomorrow to go to the foundry :whoohoo: at the same time I hope to pick up some more of the metal needed and then once the S&P is together nothing will stop this build starting :pinkelephant:

Maybe I could just sneak out and make a little something for her  :naughty:

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Re: Fowler BB1 in 2"
« Reply #83 on: January 24, 2014, 04:10:25 PM »
The gear castings will be ready for collection on Friday  :whoohoo:

 :thinking: Rather dearer than I expected but I am getting twice as many as I need, just in case  ;)

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Re: Fowler BB1 in 2"
« Reply #84 on: January 24, 2014, 04:29:00 PM »
Just moved the comfy armchair to the computer desk in anticipation

I do wonder in the good old days pre H&S how many people were injured with the wire rope used in steam ploughing when it parted/came adrift to quote Ron Weaslys dad its like a iron bar drum tight



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Re: Fowler BB1 in 2"
« Reply #85 on: February 20, 2014, 10:00:02 AM »
 :cartwheel: The castings are ready  :cartwheel:

  Sorry guys you might not be seeing me for a while :whoohoo:

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Re: Fowler BB1 in 2"
« Reply #86 on: February 21, 2014, 07:01:40 PM »
They have arrived, ok I know not very interesting for the rest of you  :-[ but I am very  :whoohoo:

These are my first castings and they came out better than I ever hoped for  :pinkelephant:

Guess where they are  :naughty:

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Re: Fowler BB1 in 2"
« Reply #87 on: February 21, 2014, 07:14:17 PM »
They look nice Jo and I guess you will be letting those mature a bit  O:-)  How much (roughly) would those cost to have poured ? (sorry for being nosey)  :slap:

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Re: Fowler BB1 in 2"
« Reply #88 on: February 21, 2014, 07:23:21 PM »
Andy, I think you need some dimensions, the biggies are

Outside diameter 10 3/4" 3/4" thick,
6 1/14" dia 3/4" thick,
5 1/12" dia 3/4" thick

£65. I was quoted £48 for a slice of 9" diameter 1" thick bar  ;)

Smaller multi stage castings £60  :), single blank £35  :-\.

If you look on sexy's thread then those parts were £20 (5" mushrooms) , £28 (backing plate) , £32 (main table  8))each. 

Edit: the large casting weights 27lbs  ;).

Jo
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Re: Fowler BB1 in 2"
« Reply #89 on: February 21, 2014, 08:13:19 PM »
Thank you for that Jo  :ThumbsUp:
 I dont think that is too expensive at all. They are rather large lumps  ^-^ Of course you had to make the patterns, but I think it far better to turn a lot of scrap from wood rather than metal :)
 

 

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