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The courtyard is for flower beds and a central flat grass for outside play area, or it could be paved if the need arose. Roofing it over would be a wind trap as the prevailing wind is south westerlies. Down the back of the main garage would not suffer from the wind so that 43ft could be "roofed" but if I need covered work space I do have a 20ft by 23ft area in the main garage available if I leave my car out, so is it worth it? Jo
And I do keep contemplating a little sports car for playing with in my retirement . Jo
I don't like the idea of several separate "shops" you will be forever flitting back and forth between them which also adds to the problem of heating - do you heat them all or have one hot and then feel cold every half an hour when you go back into the other. I was looking at log stoves for the new workshop they are extremely effective in the house and a single decent stove could heat the entire area using waste wood that my friendly woodsman keeps dumping at my house1. Make the new large building your garage and store the motorbikes, lawn tractor and the car if you currently house that all in the new main building. Have a covered in link to this from the existing. It is over 100ft from that building to the first door on the house it is too far on a cold winter's night to want to park a car and walk to the house. I had considered using the new shed extension for the bikes, lawn tractor, potting shed and fruit/veg storage. 2. Move the big Colchester, Harrison and any other big machines into the front of the existing building. Add an insulated stud wall behind one of the garage doors and draftproof & insulate the other I was planing on adding another mill a bridgeport the existing garage does not have the head height
New main building has lawn tractor, bikes etc at the front and divided to give a big machine shop at the rear. No only the extension as only the end is south facing so it will be cold, the main building will have maximum south facing = light Existing shop then has more space and with the machines currently in that you can do the stationary engines and most of the BB1s. It has more than enough for me Still like the idea of a hot & dirty area this could be the small annex or a link building between the two larger ones. It is currently in the spare bay in the garage, the major boiler hearth is outside on the back of the garage wall Watch how much you increase the height as you will start needing planning if the ridge is over 4.0m tall. Also you start getting restrictions when you get to less than 1.0m from boundary so again may need to be a fraction narrower. I know I used to be a parish councillor, but this is a boundary onto agricultural land which means a different set of rules and the main garage only has a 4 m ridge this new building will be "smaller" Some would say you already have two workshops if you include the house facilities
Having had a look at your workshop on photobucket my thoughts would be. (may be worth posting them here so people can see what you have to work with)
I mentioned in my original thread about my workshop: http://www.modelenginemaker.com/index.php/topic,839.0.html that I had sufficient space behind my current garage/workshop to build another shed workshop. Well yesterday I took the tape measure out to see what was possible . If I assume I want to leave say an 8ft clearance gap (for bringing models around into the play area) between this new building complex and the old garage I have 32ft of good building space. I don't want it too deep, the current workshop 21ft length is a bit long as it needs the lights on at the far end during dark winter's days. 16ft wide would fit nicely sort of ?corner to corner? to the main garage. But then I thought I could add an annex at right angles along the far boundary say 10ft wide by 20ft, which would allow the workshop area to increase if I wanted without have a visual impact on the garden . Now a 32ft by 16ft workshop is a little bit big to heat so maybe I need to split it up. I definitely need a decent pair of doors on the end to allow large machine tools to be brought in, double glazing. Then there is the need for a storage area for all of those come in handies .JO,Please tell us why you want to build this shed? What do you want to do there? (in as much detail as you can)How would this relate to your overall shop needs?Please put down the soft needs (such as warm, light, comfy, hide-out, etc.) as well as the usual quantifiable ones (2 lathes, storage, electric, refrig, etc.)This will help you and us to understand what you should build. MoseyEarly thoughts any suggestions from anyone? And yes the double doors will have vehicular access .Jo
As I said a sturdy timeber floor would certainly take a kit car but possibly not a 6" engine but that would depend on the subject. A tractor like the GMT may be OK but not a half size BB1.
Quote from: Jasonb on January 03, 2013, 01:24:12 PMAs I said a sturdy timeber floor would certainly take a kit car but possibly not a 6" engine but that would depend on the subject. A tractor like the GMT may be OK but not a half size BB1. I was not envisaging me building a 1/2 scale ploughing engine.Who cares about speed? It is the handling that counts . I had the saleman wetting himself when I took a Lotus Elise out for a test drive, he did 60 mph on the outside of a tight curve on the way out to show that the car stuck to the road and the biker in me brought it back at 70 on the inside of the same curve. But I am now older and could get to enjoy the idea of a chauffeur to do such things for me. Jo
As I said a sturdy timber floor would certainly take a kit car ......By sturdy I would be looking at intermediate sleeper walls so span no greater than 1.2m and bring the joist centres down to 300mm rather than the usual 400mm. My own workshop is on a reinforced concrete slab, bearers on 400cts and then double layer of ply topped off with vinyl tile. If I did it again I would add some insulation as well.The other alternative is to have a "heavy end" where the big machines and toys can stand but have the bench area and the lighter machines where you will be standing sitting most of the time with a timber floor but all at the same finished level.For the walls I would have a couple of courses of brickwork and then set your studwork on that with a DPC between like this. You could get the wall up in a day with timber which is a big advantage and a well insulated timber building stays much warmer. The outside can be clad with weather boarding in natural oak as this garage or you can get some good man made boards is you prefer the painted look but don't want to paint. I would also consider a couple of Velux type roof lights to get some daylight into the middle of the workshop.
Go For it I would not be happy in a converted garage.Dan
. (I don't suffer with cold feet, that is a problem that you fellas suffer with I seem to recall . )
Not sure if this is helpful...but when I think of my dream shop I also think about how to use the ceiling.
Well, the same kinds of heaters are available in natural gas too, if that is available,